anakin
Mike the Goon
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Post by anakin on Apr 11, 2023 21:09:55 GMT -5
If he main events another WrestleMania, he’s tied Hogan. Then after that, the record is his.
He’s had a title reign go through 3 WrestleManias, beating 3 Royal Rumble winners.
He’s held both titles for over a year.
Surely he’s gotta be up there?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 11, 2023 23:21:28 GMT -5
yes and no.
Yes because of the longevity of this current reign, but also no due to the fact that he typically wins matches with a lot of bullshit interference.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 11, 2023 23:27:06 GMT -5
yes and no. Yes because of the longevity of this current reign, but also no due to the fact that he typically wins matches with a lot of bullshit interference. Yeah, the fact that he hasn't won like any of his matches without interference or blatant cheating kinda negates a lot of it. Hogan, Cena, Bruno, Austin didn't need that to win their matches... |
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Apr 12, 2023 0:09:15 GMT -5
No
In Kayfabe he is only the Champ because WWE Lacks an impartial President who posseses the wisdom and firm hand of Jack Tunney.
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Post by Andee9001 on Apr 12, 2023 5:19:35 GMT -5
Nah
Hogan would still have him beat. 4 year world title reign, 1 year world title reign, 8 mania main events with 7 victories, 2 rumble wins, 6 WWE title reigns and didn't need lackeys to win.
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tirtefaa
Unicron
If you wanna know the truth, you gotta dig up Johnny Booth.
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 12, 2023 5:22:55 GMT -5
Nope.
Stanislaus Zbyszko won over 900 matches.
The Great Gama never lost a match.
And do I really need to bring up Bruno Sammartino?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 12, 2023 5:24:17 GMT -5
Nope. Stanislaus Zbyszko won over 900 matches. The Great Gama never lost a match. And do I really need to bring up Bruno Sammartino? Yeah Bruno was my immediate thought Plus Backlund Plus Hogan |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 12, 2023 5:30:48 GMT -5
I think all things considered it still has to be Hogan. Austin would be up there but his reigns are pretty short and his time on top was very short
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Apr 12, 2023 5:56:21 GMT -5
Still inferior to Hogan, Flair, Austin, Cena in my opinion. Also feel like these guys had tougher "competition' if we're going kayfabe here.
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Ben Wyatt
Crow T. Robot
Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 12, 2023 6:00:37 GMT -5
yes and no. Yes because of the longevity of this current reign, but also no due to the fact that he typically wins matches with a lot of bullshit interference. I just connected this today: His reign is just a long, annoying version of Jinder Mahal's reign. |
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Post by celtics543 on Apr 12, 2023 6:11:39 GMT -5
Strictly kayfabe speaking it's kind of like comparing Bill Russell (Bruno), Michael Jordan (Hogan), and Lebron James (Reigns).
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 12, 2023 7:48:44 GMT -5
Strictly kayfabe speaking it's kind of like comparing Bill Russell (Bruno), Michael Jordan (Hogan), and Lebron James (Reigns). Reigns is Jokic. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 12, 2023 7:49:49 GMT -5
no. dude is never going to have the level of mainstream popularity Hogan/Austin/Rocky did. hell, hes not even as much of a household name as Bret or John Cena were. to be fair to him, the monoculture that used to allow that kind of thing flat out doesnt exist anymore. he's more akin to... well, Logan Paul. obviously has reach to millions of people, but outside his niche he might as well be a nobody.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Apr 12, 2023 8:03:57 GMT -5
In kayfabe Reigns wouldn't even be considered the best on the current roster.
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thecrusherwi
El Dandy
the Financially Responsible Man
Brawl For All
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 12, 2023 8:08:19 GMT -5
From a kayfabe perspective, he's more like Ric Flair in that he's been the champion many times for a long time, but most of his big wins have come under dubious circumstances.
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Push R Truth
Patti Mayonnaise
Unique and Special Snowflake, and a pants-less heathen.
Perpetually Constipated
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 12, 2023 10:23:16 GMT -5
Running Kayfabe Logic.... he's not even in the Top 5. It's one thing to cheat and use underhanded tactics as a heel and still look "strong". It's another thing to have followers blatantly assault your opponents during the match, repeatedly and win.
Roman isn't getting assisted by a manager's distraction here or a trip/slap there. He's not winning with a tug of the tights or a well hidden low blow very often. It's flat out multiple men entering the ring and performing multiple finishing moves and flat out multi-minute beat downs. In a pure kayfabe aspect, Roman looks fairly weak as champion. Dude just can't win a match on his own lately.
Kayfabe should have him as a paper tiger not a GOAT.
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Allie Kitsune
Crow T. Robot
Always Feelin' Foxy.
HaHa U FaLL 4 LaVa TriK
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 12, 2023 10:25:19 GMT -5
It's always going to be Bruno, isn't it?
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 12, 2023 10:25:44 GMT -5
I think I’d consider Cena the Kayfabe GOAT. He’s had to have had the most successful clean title wins/defenses
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Post by joeiscool on Apr 12, 2023 11:03:40 GMT -5
no. dude is never going to have the level of mainstream popularity Hogan/Austin/Rocky did. hell, hes not even as much of a household name as Bret or John Cena were. to be fair to him, the monoculture that used to allow that kind of thing flat out doesnt exist anymore. he's more akin to... well, Logan Paul. obviously has reach to millions of people, but outside his niche he might as well be a nobody. Bret?  I'd say Roman is now more popular than Bret ever was. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 12, 2023 11:08:56 GMT -5
no. dude is never going to have the level of mainstream popularity Hogan/Austin/Rocky did. hell, hes not even as much of a household name as Bret or John Cena were. to be fair to him, the monoculture that used to allow that kind of thing flat out doesnt exist anymore. he's more akin to... well, Logan Paul. obviously has reach to millions of people, but outside his niche he might as well be a nobody. Bret? I'd say Roman is now more popular than Bret ever was. Roman's never been on the Simpsons. |
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