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Post by Jindrak Mark on Apr 16, 2023 14:28:55 GMT -5
This isn't debated as much as the best/worst Manias or Rumbles.
My least favorite Mania was in 95 and I think I may have to go with that year for Summerslam too.
Diesel/Mabel is obviously a terrible main event but you also had Undertaker v Kama and Bret v Dentist Kane going over 15 minutes. The Shawn/Razor ladder rematch was good but I don't think it saves the show.
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Post by dav on Apr 16, 2023 14:33:18 GMT -5
1994 was utterly dire, aside from the Woman's Championship match and the Leslie Nielsen. Terrible main events and, not including the aforementioned bout, none of the matches helped carry it either.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 16, 2023 14:35:14 GMT -5
2006 has to be a strong contender right? I mean I've never seen it as I didn't order it because the card looked so weak and I can't imagine it being any good. Broke down old guys like Hogan, Flair, and Foley all in marquee matches, DX against the McMahons, Booker against Batista which was a match that was never good as they hated each other in real life. Really the only match that looks like it would have any potential to be good was Cena against Edge.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 16, 2023 14:47:41 GMT -5
1994 was utterly dire, aside from the Woman's Championship match and the Leslie Nielsen. Terrible main events and, not including the aforementioned bout, none of the matches helped carry it either. I didn't think it was a good show but I don't know if it's bad enough to be the worst. I thought Razor against Diesel was good as well. That along with the women's match save it from being the worst. Opener and Mabel/Jarrett weren't great but weren't offensive or anything either. I think the cage match sucks and is boring AF but there is a lot of people that like it and rate it highly. Really the only lowlights were Undertaker vs. Underfaker and the Tatanka heel turn that ended up not amounting to anything.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Apr 16, 2023 14:48:31 GMT -5
2006 has to be a strong contender right? I mean I've never seen it as I didn't order it because the card looked so weak and I can't imagine it being any good. Broke down old guys like Hogan, Flair, and Foley all in marquee matches, DX against the McMahons, Booker against Batista which was a match that was never good as they hated each other in real life. Really the only match that looks like it would have any potential to be good was Cena against Edge. I'd take it over 2007. 06 and 07 were basically the same actually. A show full of average or bad matches then a good Cena main event. 07 was probably more disappointing to me though because there were a few matches I thought could be really good and didn't deliver (Punk v Morrison, Rey v Chavo, HHH v Booker) while in 06 I wasn't really expecting anything from Flair/Foley, Hogan/Orton or DX/McMahons.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 16, 2023 15:09:19 GMT -5
2006 has to be a strong contender right? I mean I've never seen it as I didn't order it because the card looked so weak and I can't imagine it being any good. Broke down old guys like Hogan, Flair, and Foley all in marquee matches, DX against the McMahons, Booker against Batista which was a match that was never good as they hated each other in real life. Really the only match that looks like it would have any potential to be good was Cena against Edge. I'd take it over 2007. 06 and 07 were basically the same actually. A show full of average or bad matches then a good Cena main event. 07 was probably more disappointing to me though because there were a few matches I thought could be really good and didn't deliver (Punk v Morrison, Rey v Chavo, HHH v Booker) while in 06 I wasn't really expecting anything from Flair/Foley, Hogan/Orton or DX/McMahons. I forgot about that and I even saw that one. Looking at the results it looks like they didn't give anything any time other the main event and Mysterio/Chavo which according to Wikipedia which to me is the right length for those two. Although to be fair other then Morrison and Punk I don't know if any of the other matches would've delivered if they did. Booker was on the way out and was clearly checked out and Triple H was returning so it was probably for the best to give him a quick and strong anyways. The three way sounds interesting with all three guys being heels but at the same time none of those guys were really having great matches around that time either. I don't remember it but I can't imagine Kane and Finlay being any good.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 16, 2023 15:53:21 GMT -5
I always think SummerSlam 1995 gets a bit of unfair criticism. Yes, the main event is awful but nothing else on the card is anywhere near as bad. Kid/Hakushi is a good opener, Bret/Yankem is decent, the Horowitz/Skip match was good (and a good storyline too), Kama/Taker was way better than it should have been and is by some distance the best casket match until 98 and Razor/Shawn II is excellent. The other three matches aren’t anything special but they’re not offensive on the same level as Diesel/Mabel.
From the early shows, 88 is pretty bad. It’s got a good opener but with a terrible finish, a forgettable tag title match and a series of more or less squash matches, though granted, one of which is a pretty historic title change. The main event is passable but when the highlight of a wrestling match it is a valet ripping her skirt off (even if it is someone as beautiful as Elizabeth), then something’s not right. Throw in a terrible Brother Love show and a boxing match getting more hype than most of the card combined and it makes for a poor show.
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Post by fortknox on Apr 16, 2023 15:59:29 GMT -5
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 16, 2023 16:10:33 GMT -5
Summerslam always seemed to be an "extra" PPV. If it were a character on a TV show, the "background character." The main event usually had a few months of storyline most other matches were throwaways. I know early Wresltemania's had similar matches but they always had a tag title or IC title feud or a few other non title feuds that made sense. IIRC some have said the early Summerslams were not so much feud based because the house show market was where they made the most money.
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Post by chrom on Apr 16, 2023 16:20:59 GMT -5
1990 is pretty poor.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Apr 16, 2023 16:28:04 GMT -5
Summerslam always seemed to be an "extra" PPV. If it were a character on a TV show, the "background character." The main event usually had a few months of storyline most other matches were throwaways. I know early Wresltemania's had similar matches but they always had a tag title or IC title feud or a few other non title feuds that made sense. IIRC some have said the early Summerslams were not so much feud based because the house show market was where they made the most money. It did seem like a lot of the early Summerslam's up until about 93 had a lot of weird match choices. 91 was I would say the best one about having matches with guys who were actually feuding and had an angle. However even that had Warrior teaming with Hogan against Slaughter and company despite the fact that he had nothing to with those guys at that point and was in a hot feud with the Undertaker who didn't have a match on the card at all for some reason. Bret/Perfect also had no build to it as Perfect had been feuding with Bulldog who instead was put in the six man opener. 92 was the worst as literally none of the feuds that they had been building over the summer were featured.
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Post by chrom on Apr 16, 2023 16:34:01 GMT -5
Summerslam always seemed to be an "extra" PPV. If it were a character on a TV show, the "background character." The main event usually had a few months of storyline most other matches were throwaways. I know early Wresltemania's had similar matches but they always had a tag title or IC title feud or a few other non title feuds that made sense. IIRC some have said the early Summerslams were not so much feud based because the house show market was where they made the most money. It did seem like a lot of the early Summerslam's up until about 93 had a lot of weird match choices. 91 was I would say the best one about having matches with guys who were actually feuding and had an angle. However even that had Warrior teaming with Hogan against Slaughter and company despite the fact that he had nothing to with those guys at that point and was in a hot feud with the Undertaker who didn't have a match on the card at all for some reason. Bret/Perfect also had no build to it as Perfect had been feuding with Bulldog who instead was put in the six man opener. 92 was the worst as literally none of the feuds that they had been building over the summer were featured. Tatanka went from feuding with Martel to facing Berzerker of all people who previously had been feuding with Undertaker who then faces Kamala. And Martel goes on to face Michaels in a rare heel vs heel match.
And Natural Disasters defend against The Bevelry's who had been feuding with LOD who left after the show and beating Money Inc.
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Post by john84 on Apr 16, 2023 16:52:28 GMT -5
1994 is definitely up there. Diesel/Ramon match...Well less I say about the better lol. I'll have to think a bit more in case I've forgotten about any other SummerSlams that were worse but for me 1994 is up there mainly cos outside of the women's match and Leslie Nielsen I don't have anything positive to post about it.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 16, 2023 17:11:00 GMT -5
Even disregarding the atrocious ending to the main event, 93 "wins". The card was atrocious
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 16, 2023 17:43:16 GMT -5
I think with Summerslam 92 it was mostly going to UK that changed the whole direction. It's notable in that so many feuds from TV didn't not play out on the PPV. Shawn and Bret were feuding, Bulldog was in a mid card feud with Repo Man. Macho was going around with Flair, Warrior and Shango and Berzerker and Taker were the feuds on house shows. Animal said on the Dark Side episode LOD was supposed to get a title feud with Disasters though he was probably mistaken. I actually think 92 was a bit better than most early ones at least for the visual and also for trying to make some compelling matches.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 16, 2023 17:51:08 GMT -5
For a show at a time when things were starting to heat up 97 has some major clunkers and a lot of flat finishes.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Apr 16, 2023 18:55:15 GMT -5
1990 is the worst, the first two matches COULD have been good but they were short basically SNME style 5 minute matches as was most of the card.
The main event was OK but man what a lousy card
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Post by thegame415 on Apr 16, 2023 20:56:15 GMT -5
No mention of 2012?
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 16, 2023 21:02:21 GMT -5
Even disregarding the atrocious ending to the main event, 93 "wins". The card was atrocious IMO 93 is saved by the Bret/Lawler saga, and to a lesser extent, the Steiners/Heavenly Bodies match.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Apr 16, 2023 22:11:15 GMT -5
I can’t really say because I haven’t seen most of them. Looking back, ‘89 seems kind of bleak. That was prime watching time for me, and I can’t remember anything outside the main event, which features Beefcake and Zeus, and the opener between the Brain Busters and the Hart Foundation which should have been awesome and often gets described as such, but to me was dull and one sided for the babyface team.
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