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Post by The Barber on Apr 22, 2023 6:50:48 GMT -5
If you like a genre of music that I don't, so what? Enjoy what you like. That being typed...
Top 40 music (and pop music in general) is fine for what it is.
Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, *NSYNC, the Backstreet Boys and Katy Perry are all worthy of a spot in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.
The music that people describe as 'just plain noise' is rap. But to me, its death metal. BTW, metal fans are tied with classical music fans as the most snobbish musical fan base of all time.
The Beatles have great songs if someone else sings them.
Bossanova is garbage.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 22, 2023 7:15:06 GMT -5
Floor Jansen is the best female singer in the world All the best metal music right now comes out of europe if you're a dork. that's MY hot take. Symphonic Metal is music for dweebs. so is Power Metal. great music for LARPing and pretending you're wizard screaming "FIREBALL" but an absolute mood killer anywhere else. ... what? you guys asked for an actual hot take. ok here's some nicer ones, I'll be a good Baldobomb Hair Metal in general gets a bad rap. yeah it's doofy, yeah the image was ridiculous, yeah there was a lot of misogyny, but if you dig, there's some genuinely great music in there. Skid Row's debut for example. as doofy as the song Cherry Pie is, the Warrant album it came from is actually really f***ing good. but not Poison. they do genuinely suck ass. the best black metal these days is almost uniformly made by american artists actually interested in expanding the genre. Deathspell Omega being the exception that proves the rule. I'd rather listen to Deafheaven or Liturgy or Wolves in the Throne Room than a bunch of goofs in black and white clown makeup just aping old Darkthrone albums any day. that said, the most innovative stuff is probably actually to be found in Sludge metal. that's where you get to hear the REALLY nasty stuff that's taking music in scary new places. as cool as it was when Necrophagist put out Epitaph, and as great as some of the other prog-death bands who followed in its wake were, I'm mostly just very very bored of most modern death metal. most of it is a bunch of digitally spliced together, sample replaced garbage when it isnt a bunch of wankery (which is ALSO often cheated and cant be duplicated live). thankfully we're getting some newer bands like Sanguisogabogg who are bringing the genre back to its ugly roots while making music thats genuinely fun to listen to.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Apr 22, 2023 7:17:09 GMT -5
The only Kanye song I ever liked was "Gold Digger" and that's one he hates, so take that for what you will...
Metal is heading down the same route as jazz, where a lot of it is pushing either the technical limits or the "we're so heavy we'll give you a migraine in 30 seconds, guaranteed or your money back". Jazz used to be more popular than metal ever was, but as it fell out of favour it started to become more and more technical and weird. That's where metal is now, at the start of the process.
Vince Clarke one of the most influential musicians ever. If he never existed, electronic music would have been vastly different.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 22, 2023 7:35:07 GMT -5
The only Kanye song I ever liked was "Gold Digger" and that's one he hates, so take that for what you will... Metal is heading down the same route as jazz, where a lot of it is pushing either the technical limits or the "we're so heavy we'll give you a migraine in 30 seconds, guaranteed or your money back". Jazz used to be more popular than metal ever was, but as it fell out of favour it started to become more and more technical and weird. That's where metal is now, at the start of the process. Vince Clarke one of the most influential musicians ever. If he never existed, electronic music would have been vastly different. Metal will only be saved by its fans realizing that more notes doesnt automatically = better music. the lensmans arms race of how technical and flashy metal can be is getting very boring, very fast.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 22, 2023 7:55:59 GMT -5
Tyler the Creator low key became one of the best rappers out there over time, but he wound up overshadowing himself through those controversial lyrics on Goblin and the whole debate on his sexual orientation (which shouldn’t matter anyway but you know how it is).
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 22, 2023 8:11:04 GMT -5
Offspring>Green Day
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 22, 2023 9:59:04 GMT -5
If you're not into Metal, you are not my friend
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Post by Cyno on Apr 22, 2023 11:00:06 GMT -5
Oh here's one for me: Jane's Addiction is awful. Like, immediate "change the station" reaction as soon as I hear Perry Farrell's whiny vocals.
That said, I also really like Dave Navarro as a guitarist. So go figure.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Apr 22, 2023 11:03:20 GMT -5
The Pixies are just fine without Kim Deal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 11:11:24 GMT -5
Nirvana sucked, and Kurt Cobain sounded like a sick cat. Rock still hasn’t recovered from how badly grunge ruined it.
But somehow, the Foo Fighters are awesome.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 22, 2023 11:16:38 GMT -5
The Beatles have great songs if someone else sings them. That reminds me of one of mine. "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is a good song, and George Harrison's version of it is good, but it's at best like the fourth best version of the song I've heard.
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Post by poodoojenkins on Apr 22, 2023 11:36:14 GMT -5
The 1970s and the 2010s are the worst decades in music by a longshot.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 22, 2023 11:38:12 GMT -5
Beethoven and Mozart are a couple centuries overdue for a Rock and Roll HOf induction
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 22, 2023 11:57:36 GMT -5
Oh, my biggest hot take that seems to actually annoy some people:
There has never been a cover of Holding Out For A Hero that has come remotely close to the Bonnie Tyler original. A huge part of that is that they ignore the gorgeous piano work that Jim Steinman reused from his song Stark Raving Love, focusing more on the synth drumbeat while also making that more generic. And yet people keep covering it in blander and blander ways with vocalists incapable of living up to Tyler's power (though none have topped the monarch of blandness that is the dogshit Shrek 2 cover with a comedian struggling to sing over its bad dance remix).
There are one or two exceptions (Danielle Steers being one of the few voices up to the challenge, no surprise from someone with a theatrical background and a history with Steinman songs, and the Miki Asakura version is a straight translation that keeps what works about the song) but ultimately, for most people it's a losing game, and they should maybe try one of the less-covered songs from Tyler's discography so they can stand out rather than being one of the meh pack.
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Post by XIII on Apr 22, 2023 12:07:04 GMT -5
Foo Fighters popularity will always elude me. They are a bland and boring act.
Jay Z is an excellent businessman but only a decent rapper…but history is written by the victor.
Chinese Democracy is a massively underrated album.
Motörhead’s cover of Enter Sandman is better than the original.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 22, 2023 12:20:15 GMT -5
Ginger Root is slept on like a waterbed.
People clown on Britney Spears’ cover of Satisfaction, but her cover of My Prerogative is one of her best because the way she’s singing you can tell she relates.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 22, 2023 14:12:48 GMT -5
Creed was a perfectly fun to listen to rock band. *Everyone* I knew owned my own Prison and Human Clay. Now? People like to pretend they always sucked and nobody listened to them
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 22, 2023 14:22:14 GMT -5
Creed was a perfectly fun to listen to rock band. *Everyone* I knew owned my own Prison and Human Clay. Now? People like to pretend they always sucked and nobody listened to them That said, it's probably also accurate to say that Nickelback only ever became everyone's favorite punching bag because Creed broke up
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 22, 2023 14:27:09 GMT -5
Oh, my biggest hot take that seems to actually annoy some people: There has never been a cover of Holding Out For A Hero that has come remotely close to the Bonnie Tyler original. A huge part of that is that they ignore the gorgeous piano work that Jim Steinman reused from his song Stark Raving Love, focusing more on the synth drumbeat while also making that more generic. And yet people keep covering it in blander and blander ways with vocalists incapable of living up to Tyler's power (though none have topped the monarch of blandness that is the dogshit Shrek 2 cover with a comedian struggling to sing over its bad dance remix). There are one or two exceptions (Danielle Steers being one of the few voices up to the challenge, no surprise from someone with a theatrical background and a history with Steinman songs, and the Miki Asakura version is a straight translation that keeps what works about the song) but ultimately, for most people it's a losing game, and they should maybe try one of the less-covered songs from Tyler's discography so they can stand out rather than being one of the meh pack. I don't mind the Shrek 2 one as much as you, but at the same time, yeah, it's not good. You need the piano, or else something to stand on its own, and any cover I've heard treats it like an afterthought. I also feel like Bonnie Tyler's over-the-topness is difficult to challenge. I don't want to hear someone's carefully manicured cover that feels utterly safe, because that's just dull. It'd be like replacing a loudly-colored frosted cake with a saltine cracker. This isn't a hot take, exactly, I guess, since most people agree: The GOOD covers of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" can be counted on one hand, and there are probably no good covers of "Somebody That I Used To Know" that I am aware of.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 22, 2023 16:12:05 GMT -5
Creed was a perfectly fun to listen to rock band. *Everyone* I knew owned my own Prison and Human Clay. Now? People like to pretend they always sucked and nobody listened to them That said, it's probably also accurate to say that Nickelback only ever became everyone's favorite punching bag because Creed broke up Oh, there's no probably about it
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