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Post by welshpenguin on Jul 3, 2023 9:51:16 GMT -5
If they do have a London wrestlemania, I hope they don't play "God save the king" at the start. It's too much of a dirge. It's not like The Star Spangeled Banner. You can't have fighter jets going over head, giant flags, confetti and a soul singer holding the last note of the song for 25 seconds too long. Plus nobody actually knows all the words. Play Vindaloo by Fat Les, that will set the tone. yeah it’s likely to get booed lol.
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Post by government mule on Jul 3, 2023 10:37:32 GMT -5
The Tottenham Hotspur stadium would be a perfect place for Cody Rhodes to bottle it on the big stage again. To be fair, this may be the only way for a title to be won at Shite Hart Lane.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jul 3, 2023 13:34:05 GMT -5
As said Wembley is booked full of matches during the April/May period so they'd have to give assurances that thousands of chairs on the pitch won't damage it too much. All In is booked for after the Community Shield (traditional and IMO pointless season opener) and after that, the next game is a national side friendly against Australia in mid-October. If the pitch is a problem booking the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium is a no go as the season is still going on. Twickenham (National rugby stadium, been used for American football and concerts, 82k seats) might be an option. As the home of Rugby, a mostly middle and upper class sport, I doubt that the people who own Twickers are going to want to have the WWE there. It's also around 10 miles from the centre of London and doesn't have a Tube station. Twickenham is an absolute nightmare. It's not just that it's not on the Tube either, getting to the station is an absolute nightmare unless you're going in from southwest London, and then because there's only really one station serving the stadium the whole of Twickenham ends up a pedestrian gridlock afterwards. I used to really enjoy going to rugby there but stopped, because it was so stupid that it's less than fifteen miles from my place, but takes ages to get there.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 3, 2023 13:37:40 GMT -5
If they do have a London wrestlemania, I hope they don't play "God save the king" at the start. It's too much of a dirge. It's not like The Star Spangeled Banner. You can't have fighter jets going over head, giant flags, confetti and a soul singer holding the last note of the song for 25 seconds too long. Plus nobody actually knows all the words. Play Vindaloo by Fat Les, that will set the tone. yeah it’s likely to get booed lol. They usually play America the Beautiful at Mania instead of hte National Anthem don't they? So they could easily do the same thing for Britain... or maybe Sargeant Slaughter will come out and sing My Country Tis of Thee... like that time he kept Trolling Canada for no explained reason
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 3, 2023 13:57:32 GMT -5
Wembley is only allowed to do a specific number of events per year. I forget the specific number, but I do know it was raised in the last couple of years.
Either way, Wembley has no problem attracting events to fill that quota. Neither London nor Wembley are going to pay WWE to bring Wrestlemania. If WWE want to do Wembley, they'll need to hire it like everyone else does.
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Post by eJm on Jul 4, 2023 10:12:04 GMT -5
The UK All-Party Parliamentary Group on Wrestling has backed a potential bid for WrestleMania to happen.
Considering how well they’ve done in trying to get wrestling trainers regulated like other sports committees in the UK (as in “not at all”), that basically means it won’t happen ever.
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Post by 4real on Jul 4, 2023 10:54:46 GMT -5
It would be my luck for it to be in Old Trafford 🤨 lol I’ve been to Old Trafford once….to see Arsenal lose 8-2 to Man U. I’d like to have a better memory of it!
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Post by koreycaskets on Jul 4, 2023 11:22:25 GMT -5
I'm down for England getting a Mania , but also we need another WrestleMania here in Canada as well.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jul 4, 2023 12:36:15 GMT -5
The UK All-Party Parliamentary Group on Wrestling has backed a potential bid for WrestleMania to happen. 'the showcase of the immortals! and sex offenders! who are also all my friends!'
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 4, 2023 12:52:11 GMT -5
Now I’m bummed if it doesn’t come to Australia because “WrestleStralia”.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jul 4, 2023 12:56:52 GMT -5
Now I’m bummed if it doesn’t come to Australia because “WrestleStralia”. HHH was quoted saying they wont hold Mania in Australia until there's proper resolution for the 1975 constitutional crisis
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Post by johncasey on Jul 4, 2023 13:07:19 GMT -5
Wouldn't have shocked me if they had meetings with the relevant Government Officials before MITB enquiring about a site fee for Wrestlemania and it got rejected, hence The Cena Promo.
WWE wants to break the records for Wembley but someone said, we want to break the attendance/highest gate records but want you to pay for it.
All the Government has to say is why do we want to pay for something that another company has already achieved for free. It's not as if they are getting a cut.
I also believe that AEW are coming back next year
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Post by welshpenguin on Jul 4, 2023 14:41:07 GMT -5
It would be my luck for it to be in Old Trafford 🤨 lol I’ve been to Old Trafford once….to see Arsenal lose 8-2 to Man U. I’d like to have a better memory of it! I feel for you
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Post by eJm on Jul 4, 2023 15:39:07 GMT -5
Wouldn't have shocked me if they had meetings with the relevant Government Officials before MITB enquiring about a site fee for Wrestlemania and it got rejected, hence The Cena Promo. WWE wants to break the records for Wembley but someone said, we want to break the attendance/highest gate records but want you to pay for it. All the Government has to say is why do we want to pay for something that another company has already achieved for free. It's not as if they are getting a cut. I also believe that AEW are coming back next year The other factor with how WWE does things like this is taking into consideration what events like this do to a country overall. The reason the Olympics and Paralympics are done as they are (along with making as much money as possible from governments, it ain't flawless and absolutely not going to say it isn't) is to give an opportunity for countries to expand their sports presence and establish things for the wider community and one of the only places to actually turn a profit from an Olympic and Paralympic games has been London. That's been due to making use of facilities and stadia developed or giving it to organizations that will use it (the Olympic Stadium's owned by West Ham United for example) and just making it all seem important. London bidding for WrestleMania won't have them develop anything different or gain anymore people than, say, Falcons/Jaguars this October or Taylor Swift in August and those two have had the organizers pay for the slot. AEW paid for the slot and the City of London doesn't have to pay anything extra besides possibly sending police nearby for before and after the show. Like, again, this isn't me saying it won't happen. Hell, I want it to happen because I'm excited to go to All In and would love to have WrestleMania a flight and trains away that aren't longer than an hour each. But it probably factors in here. The UK All-Party Parliamentary Group on Wrestling has backed a potential bid for WrestleMania to happen. 'the showcase of the immortals! and sex offenders! who are also all my friends!' If you ever get a chance to read about what happened in the review to do with getting wrestling trainers and coaches on the same regulations as other sports, it is the most insanely frustrating thing to read because what essentially happened is that the APPG said "Here's the report on abuse allegations and how this has affected the business, this should happen and it wouldn't be hard" and the Government just going "Nah, they should regulate themselves" which...like...no. They've shown they can't so no!
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Post by johncasey on Jul 4, 2023 16:56:46 GMT -5
It does feel that they have to do Wrestlemania in London even if they don't get the site fee.
Us UK Wrestling fans kinda have long memories.
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Post by avenger on Jul 8, 2023 17:30:22 GMT -5
Wouldn't have shocked me if they had meetings with the relevant Government Officials before MITB enquiring about a site fee for Wrestlemania and it got rejected, hence The Cena Promo. WWE wants to break the records for Wembley but someone said, we want to break the attendance/highest gate records but want you to pay for it. All the Government has to say is why do we want to pay for something that another company has already achieved for free. It's not as if they are getting a cut. I also believe that AEW are coming back next year The other factor with how WWE does things like this is taking into consideration what events like this do to a country overall. The reason the Olympics and Paralympics are done as they are (along with making as much money as possible from governments, it ain't flawless and absolutely not going to say it isn't) is to give an opportunity for countries to expand their sports presence and establish things for the wider community and one of the only places to actually turn a profit from an Olympic and Paralympic games has been London. That's been due to making use of facilities and stadia developed or giving it to organizations that will use it (the Olympic Stadium's owned by West Ham United for example) and just making it all seem important. London bidding for WrestleMania won't have them develop anything different or gain anymore people than, say, Falcons/Jaguars this October or Taylor Swift in August and those two have had the organizers pay for the slot. AEW paid for the slot and the City of London doesn't have to pay anything extra besides possibly sending police nearby for before and after the show. Like, again, this isn't me saying it won't happen. Hell, I want it to happen because I'm excited to go to All In and would love to have WrestleMania a flight and trains away that aren't longer than an hour each. But it probably factors in here. 'the showcase of the immortals! and sex offenders! who are also all my friends!' If you ever get a chance to read about what happened in the review to do with getting wrestling trainers and coaches on the same regulations as other sports, it is the most insanely frustrating thing to read because what essentially happened is that the APPG said "Here's the report on abuse allegations and how this has affected the business, this should happen and it wouldn't be hard" and the Government just going "Nah, they should regulate themselves" which...like...no. They've shown they can't so no! Also with the Olympics and the Paralympic, there may have been funding offered from the British Olympic Association as part of the bid, similar with the FA and World Cup bids in the past. There's no wrestling equivalent of those organisations. Wembley can now have 24 non-sporting events a year, and bands queue up for the right to play there. Wembley don't need to pay anyone to persuade them to go there - if anything it's the opposite. There are over 700 APPGs, and most of them are toothless. A lot of them are just excuses for MPs to meet up out of hours and talk about niche subjects with other like-minded MPs. I had a mate who became an MP, and it can be a lonely job, especially if your constituency covers a wide area, or you're the only MP for your party for miles around.
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Post by burdette25159 on Jul 8, 2023 19:27:55 GMT -5
I’m saying 42, if 41 is going to Minneapolis and 43 to Nashville as rumored. The biggest obstacle has always been the time difference. We obviously got an earlier start here, but even with 2 nights, Mania is a longer show. Would they have to start even earlier? Would NXT get a crack of dawn start time for the West Coast? Nashville's new stadium won't be ready in time for 43 so 43 goes to England
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Post by eJm on Jul 8, 2023 22:36:46 GMT -5
Also with the Olympics and the Paralympic, there may have been funding offered from the British Olympic Association as part of the bid, similar with the FA and World Cup bids in the past. There's no wrestling equivalent of those organisations. Wembley can now have 24 non-sporting events a year, and bands queue up for the right to play there. Wembley don't need to pay anyone to persuade them to go there - if anything it's the opposite. All of that is true too. Especially, as mentioned, AEW demonstrated they can do that without expecting to be paid for it and doing what everyone else did. There might have been a bit of leeway with Shad Khan’s Jaguars being there during the Summer but the likelihood is that it was “We’ll take a slot, AEW will take another, here’s the money for that extra slot” or something. Oh yeah, I can imagine all of that. It was just one of those things reading it where the solution was so simple and wouldn’t take much and the response was basically “Nah”. Like, it’s basically them saying they’re fine with another SpeakingOut happening without saying as much.
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Post by avenger on Jul 9, 2023 6:38:20 GMT -5
There are over 700 APPGs, and most of them are toothless. A lot of them are just excuses for MPs to meet up out of hours and talk about niche subjects with other like-minded MPs. I had a mate who became an MP, and it can be a lonely job, especially if your constituency covers a wide area, or you're the only MP for your party for miles around. Oh yeah, I can imagine all of that. It was just one of those things reading it where the solution was so simple and wouldn’t take much and the response was basically “Nah”. Like, it’s basically them saying they’re fine with another SpeakingOut happening without saying as much. They've got very little power, all they can go is what they did, which is investigate it and pass on concerns to the Department of Culture, Media & Sport. The DCMS will either look at the front cover, see the word wrestling and toss it in the bin because of how wrestling is viewed in the UK, or add it to the pile to get to in the future. In reality, you need legislation that covers promoters and coaches of all activities, whether it's sport, wrestling, ballet, acting or anything else (and pretty much all of it fits under the DCMS brief). But as we've seen from the sheer number of allegations about MPs over the last few years, there are people within parliament who will massively push back against any type of safeguarding concerns.
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