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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 31, 2023 15:38:51 GMT -5
I remember the days of "Ugh, wish AEW wouldn't take any shots at WWE it's such bush league shit" And here we have HHH himself live on camera: To take that gamble again and say this is not what I wanted to be. I didn’t grow up dreaming of being the champion or the face of a secondary promotion. I want to be WWE Champion Lmfao, can't out petty the champion of petty. HHH always wants to f***ing go over, brother! Also Cody shouldn't have said anything since it literally amounted to nothing for for HHH to get a jolly in and call them a secondary promotion, all this does is make people speculate further, should have in fact edited it out lol. It is the secondary promotion, though. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be WWE champion if you grew up around it and your dad worked there. I'm saying this as an AEW fangirl. I eyeroll at a lot of HHH's petty jabs but I don't think this is one. It was just the way it was laid out as a quote saying "He didn't want to be a champion of a secondary promotion", like it was beneath Cody to do so One that's putting words in Cody's mouth that Cody didn't want to put in, but there's just so many other ways you can say that without it coming off like winning in AEW doesn't matter compared to what you do in the WWE, and that's just horseshit I don't care about it being the number 2 promotion, it is, but HHH knew what he was doing there, it's not the worst insult but he likes doing it
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Post by Fade on Jul 31, 2023 15:39:57 GMT -5
The impression I always got with Cody leaving AEW was that there were 2 issues. 1)Creative differences and 2)Brandy. Creative differences are fairly obvious and there were reports for awhile how Tony was not only leaving more on other members of the Elite but also talent like Jericho and Mox more and Cody basically did his own thing. With Brandy? No disrespect to her, but it just seemed like not only was she pretty negatively received on air, but it seemed like a lot of the stuff she was involved with behind the scene tended to be received poorly too. Also seems like she's been fairly snarky when talking about AEW so I kind of get the impression things were less amicable with her leaving than they were with Cody I assume it was creative as well. Not necessarily in terms of losing power (very likely tho), but unsatisfied with where he was going. Then again, he’s claimed (recently) in interviews that the creative was great, but it’s Cody, so who knows lol.. The Brandi theory might be spot-on though.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 31, 2023 15:41:23 GMT -5
The impression I always got with Cody leaving AEW was that there were 2 issues. 1)Creative differences and 2)Brandy. Creative differences are fairly obvious and there were reports for awhile how Tony was not only leaving more on other members of the Elite but also talent like Jericho and Mox more and Cody basically did his own thing. With Brandy? No disrespect to her, but it just seemed like not only was she pretty negatively received on air, but it seemed like a lot of the stuff she was involved with behind the scene tended to be received poorly too. Also seems like she's been fairly snarky when talking about AEW so I kind of get the impression things were less amicable with her leaving than they were with Cody All of this. I’ll say this much… Brandi Runnels might be the nicest human this side of Dave Grohl for all I know. But Brandi Rhodes?? Yeeeeeah. My gut was always she thought Cody should have had carte blanche to do whatever he damn well pleased and, in turn, she should too because Cody was the reason AEW existed (which is only…roughly…20% true) Always felt like once Nightmare Collective bombed that Brandi felt like she lost a lot of pull within the company As many complaints as there might be about the girls, most everyone still agrees that is the worst thing to come out of the women's division even to this day... it only lasted like a month but it felt like it lasted a year lol
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 31, 2023 15:42:38 GMT -5
Cody is, by many accounts, a very swell dude, and I feel like his absence negatively impacted a lot of guys, ones who benefited from his direct mentorship. I am a very big fan of his.
I also recognize he is very much his father's son, and more than a little dramatic. It's wrestling, though, he's definitely not the only guy like that.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jul 31, 2023 15:43:37 GMT -5
I always felt like not only was Cody trying to live out his Hulk Hogan babyface fantasies in a company that quickly established itself as a Bret Hart mark’s wet dream, but the idea of being an executive and booking as an active wrestler just soured him on things too.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 31, 2023 15:52:48 GMT -5
I always felt like not only was Cody trying to live out his Hulk Hogan babyface fantasies in a company that quickly established itself as a Bret Hart mark’s wet dream, but the idea of being an executive and booking as an active wrestler just soured him on things too. His storylines were also just nonsensical for even when he was trying to convey. I feel like a huge turning point was just how badly the Ogogo feud went, and well... THAT promo.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 31, 2023 15:57:43 GMT -5
I always felt like not only was Cody trying to live out his Hulk Hogan babyface fantasies in a company that quickly established itself as a Bret Hart mark’s wet dream, but the idea of being an executive and booking as an active wrestler just soured him on things too. His storylines were also just nonsensical for even when he was trying to convey. I feel like a huge turning point was just how badly the Ogogo feud went, and well... THAT promo. I don't think he was ever the same after the promo and feud and people started to tire of the self-indulgence.
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Post by dpg on Jul 31, 2023 15:58:51 GMT -5
Don't see why Brandi is being snippy, AEW gave her roles backstage and multiple pushes on the card where she was generally poor each time.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 31, 2023 16:03:39 GMT -5
Brandi seems like a swell person and I think she's plenty capable of a lot on her own. But in hindsight, her executive position was very much a nepo hire and I think it's telling that the stuff she was in charge of like AEW Heels has done a lot better since she left.
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Jul 31, 2023 16:05:18 GMT -5
I think we all know the real story he's dancing around, and it's being kept quiet to avoid scandal and negative press on both sides, but he clearly failed wellness for elevated levels of adrenaline in his soul.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 31, 2023 16:16:18 GMT -5
Triple H: Tell me when I’m telling lies.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 31, 2023 16:18:43 GMT -5
Triple H: Tell me when I’m telling lies. That he's Bi a lot of things but lingual isn't one of them.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 31, 2023 16:26:15 GMT -5
The idea that AEW just wasn't renewing Cody's contract 'on time' feels so weird and sleazy. But I think he was leaving that open to finish up while also being free to court WWE offers and the whole Bruce thing kind of tips the hand of what the goal there was and why that information was set publicly out. It always felt like the hope was that he hit the road, prove himself, and come back as the top star people in WWE refused to believe he was, and he had a chance to exit with a big spectacle and get back into WWE. It was always his endgame and maybe the reception to Codyverse accelarated the decision and the timeline, but this was always bound to happen. I think Cody's just more comfortable as the top star than as the outsider, and he played on the outsider status until he got an opportunity not to be again.
It's just all a little too convenient as an arc all the way through "Things soured and didn't go the way they were supposed to so now he's back and bigger than ever at the top of the big show where he belongs" it reads like Cody hand-wrote that shit.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 31, 2023 16:27:16 GMT -5
The impression I always got with Cody leaving AEW was that there were 2 issues. 1)Creative differences and 2)Brandy. Creative differences are fairly obvious and there were reports for awhile how Tony was not only leaving more on other members of the Elite but also talent like Jericho and Mox more and Cody basically did his own thing. With Brandy? No disrespect to her, but it just seemed like not only was she pretty negatively received on air, but it seemed like a lot of the stuff she was involved with behind the scene tended to be received poorly too. Also seems like she's been fairly snarky when talking about AEW so I kind of get the impression things were less amicable with her leaving than they were with Cody I assume it was creative as well. Not necessarily in terms of losing power (very likely tho), but unsatisfied with where he was going. Then again, he’s claimed (recently) in interviews that the creative was great, but it’s Cody, so who knows lol.. The Brandi theory might be spot-on though. Yeah the Brandi stuff to me comes from how snippy she has gotten about AEW and some pot shots. From all accounts she is apparently a sweetheart, and I do believe in some ways she got a bit too much hate, but just comments I've seen and just hearing her talk about retiring I just can't help but shake that AEW wanted Cody back but not Brandi, and with WWE it was Cody fine Brandi no but Brandi even as a former WWE employee just didn't have the relationship with the front office and talent to make it personal
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Post by fw91 on Jul 31, 2023 16:48:31 GMT -5
...I don't see any jabs taken...
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Post by deezy on Jul 31, 2023 17:43:38 GMT -5
...I don't see any jabs taken... 💯, None at all.
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Post by fw91 on Jul 31, 2023 18:31:00 GMT -5
...I don't see any jabs taken... 💯, None at all. hhh didn't even really say "secondary" as a put-down, but more meaning like "outside wwe" They even put over the original All Out as a huge success. We need to stop picking fights that aren't there imo.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 31, 2023 18:38:36 GMT -5
Brandi seems like a swell person and I think she's plenty capable of a lot on her own. But in hindsight, her executive position was very much a nepo hire and I think it's telling that the stuff she was in charge of like AEW Heels has done a lot better since she left. Don't take me as this trying to be snarky or anything as I'm just genuinely curious. Are there any metrics that show AEW Heels is actually doing well or not compared to Brandi's time in the company?
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jul 31, 2023 18:41:30 GMT -5
hhh didn't even really say "secondary" as a put-down, but more meaning like "outside wwe" They even put over the original All Out as a huge success. We need to stop picking fights that aren't there imo. Like, I agree AEW is technically a secondary promotion, but H definitely knew what he was doing by saying that. He's never made much secret about his feelings about AEW. Dude definitely loves to jab at them but I doubt there was much heat behind it.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 31, 2023 18:43:12 GMT -5
hhh didn't even really say "secondary" as a put-down, but more meaning like "outside wwe" They even put over the original All Out as a huge success. We need to stop picking fights that aren't there imo. Like, I agree AEW is technically a secondary promotion, but H definitely knew what he was doing by saying that. He's never made much secret about his feelings about AEW. Dude definitely loves to jab at them but I doubt there was much heat behind it. I honestly thought Brandi s clip was worse than HHH's IMO
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