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Post by eJm on Aug 1, 2023 14:56:30 GMT -5
Can't tell you anything on the business end of things, but mostly on how things were organized and run. I've read stuff about how disorganized and "zoned out" Brandi was about some things when Heels first started, like streams without having any actual ideas on what to do during the stream. Once she left and Leva Bates, Aubrey Edwards, and Amanda Huber became the main Heels people, things became a lot more streamlined and cohesive. They also started up more in-person activities like meetups at shows, but to be fair to Brandi, I'd put that more on the pandemic than anything on her end.
Also worth noting that Brandy ran community relations at first and things were AWFUL for AEW, and when she left Mark Henry, Amanda Huber, and Aubrey Edwards took over and it's been nothing but praise for the outreach they've done Yeah, Mark Henry alone has been a revelation in that department. A lot of it feels like going down the WWE playbook but none of that is a bad thing at all.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 1, 2023 19:17:02 GMT -5
Was enjoying the timeline where this was an amicable split and no one involved felt the need to comment on it any further.
Also if AEW ever get stuck for a venue on short notice, they've always got a space rent-free in HHH's head.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2023 19:53:41 GMT -5
It's kind of telling that the only real shots being fired are coming from one side.
Anyway, Cody is his father's son in so many ways, up to and including being a wee bit of an egomaniac who wants everything to revolve around him. Which.. fair, honestly, you have to in order to really make it in wrestling.
Because of that, I figure when AEW stopped being Cody's playhouse and Tony Khan started dictating what is and isn't going to happen with the booking, he realized that he may as well go do what he's told in the WWE for more cultural cachet. I have a LOT of bitches and complaints about TK's booking decisions as of late, but I 100% stand by him telling Cody to stop dicking around if that's what happened.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 1, 2023 20:44:15 GMT -5
Was enjoying the timeline where this was an amicable split and no one involved felt the need to comment on it any further. Also if AEW ever get stuck for a venue on short notice, they've always got a space rent-free in HHH's head. He was interviewed about Cody leaving AEW and he gave a response about Cody and AEW. It's not like he was doing a post PLE Interview thing and started bitching about AEW for no reason.
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Post by Fade on Aug 1, 2023 21:26:35 GMT -5
It's kind of telling that the only real shots being fired are coming from one side. Anyway, Cody is his father's son in so many ways, up to and including being a wee bit of an egomaniac who wants everything to revolve around him. Which.. fair, honestly, you have to in order to really make it in wrestling. Because of that, I figure when AEW stopped being Cody's playhouse and Tony Khan started dictating what is and isn't going to happen with the booking, he realized that he may as well go do what he's told in the WWE for more cultural cachet. I have a LOT of bitches and complaints about TK's booking decisions as of late, but I 100% stand by him telling Cody to stop dicking around if that's what happened. It just wasn’t a good fit anymore. I watched the bio last night and it brought me back to the volatile reactions Cody was getting. They don’t touch on that but Cody being universally beloved in WWE, amidst one of the biggest losses ever, compared to his final months in AEW is just wild.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 1, 2023 23:39:06 GMT -5
It's kind of telling that the only real shots being fired are coming from one side. Anyway, Cody is his father's son in so many ways, up to and including being a wee bit of an egomaniac who wants everything to revolve around him. Which.. fair, honestly, you have to in order to really make it in wrestling. Because of that, I figure when AEW stopped being Cody's playhouse and Tony Khan started dictating what is and isn't going to happen with the booking, he realized that he may as well go do what he's told in the WWE for more cultural cachet. I have a LOT of bitches and complaints about TK's booking decisions as of late, but I 100% stand by him telling Cody to stop dicking around if that's what happened. It just wasn’t a good fit anymore. I watched the bio last night and it brought me back to the volatile reactions Cody was getting. They don’t touch on that but Cody being universally beloved in WWE, amidst one of the biggest losses ever, compared to his final months in AEW is just wild. Cody's a guy who kind of benefits from being reigned in a little bit. Not needing to turn some random random heatless TV match with no meaningful feud behind it into "the heel is going to break my arm so that I can never hold my daughter". I know the Ogogo stuff is seen as the big turning point, and it super is, but frankly there were elements already showing well before then during the Daily's Place era that people were already starting to look at sideways. Being in charge of his creative direction meant everything was very him-centric, stories were about Cody and focused on Cody and everyone's motivations were about Cody but Cody's motivations were always also about Cody. In WWE, it seems like they haven't given him enough control over the finer everythings of his own storylines to be able to make himself the center of the universe like that. I think that's the really big key to it; it's an audience that hasn't had to see him digging his heels in on his most self-indulgent ideas. They can keep him as a top babyface without tipping into complete lunacy.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 1, 2023 23:46:39 GMT -5
I feel like a really big show of the warning signs with Cody was the Archer feud. Introduced in this cool, enigmatic way where they really seemed to be building up to it being some big character thing that'd go on for a long while... then Cody just won (and for some reason it was tied up in the TNT title tournament when it had no real reason to be) and that was the end of it.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 1, 2023 23:52:40 GMT -5
I feel like a really big show of the warning signs with Cody was the Archer feud. Introduced in this cool, enigmatic way where they really seemed to be building up to it being some big character thing that'd go on for a long while... then Cody just won (and for some reason it was tied up in the TNT title tournament when it had no real reason to be) and that was the end of it. Also had the first case of some legend showing up to cuss out Cody and accuse him of things that never bore out or meant anything. Jake's promo against Cody went nowhere and meant nothing. The only comparison I have is when like a random villain of the week on Supernatural would monologue at one of the main characters about all his flaws. Cody's the hero so here's some bad guy telling things. But the flaws never manifested or went anywhere so it wasn't depth it was just the bad guy saying stuff before Cody won. If Cody didn't have the whole fighting champion act to fall back on and carry the title with for so long, especially in that guest star showcase spot that kept things fresh, the audience probably would have turned on him sooner
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Post by Fade on Aug 1, 2023 23:55:34 GMT -5
It just wasn’t a good fit anymore. I watched the bio last night and it brought me back to the volatile reactions Cody was getting. They don’t touch on that but Cody being universally beloved in WWE, amidst one of the biggest losses ever, compared to his final months in AEW is just wild. Cody's a guy who kind of benefits from being reigned in a little bit. Not needing to turn some random random heatless TV match with no meaningful feud behind it into "the heel is going to break my arm so that I can never hold my daughter". I know the Ogogo stuff is seen as the big turning point, and it super is, but frankly there were elements already showing well before then during the Daily's Place era that people were already starting to look at sideways. Being in charge of his creative direction meant everything was very him-centric, stories were about Cody and focused on Cody and everyone's motivations were about Cody but Cody's motivations were always also about Cody. In WWE, it seems like they haven't given him enough control over the finer everythings of his own storylines to be able to make himself the center of the universe like that. I think that's the really big key to it; it's an audience that hasn't had to see him digging his heels in on his most self-indulgent ideas. They can keep him as a top babyface without tipping into complete lunacy.They’re basically doing that now for him. It seems like it’s what he wanted in AEW, except in WWE he doesn’t have to be the brains behind it. I think it helps he’s not the guy. Roman’s still the main focus. Cody’s positioned perfectly in WWE. As of now.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Aug 1, 2023 23:56:24 GMT -5
It just wasn’t a good fit anymore. I watched the bio last night and it brought me back to the volatile reactions Cody was getting. They don’t touch on that but Cody being universally beloved in WWE, amidst one of the biggest losses ever, compared to his final months in AEW is just wild. Cody's a guy who kind of benefits from being reigned in a little bit. Not needing to turn some random random heatless TV match with no meaningful feud behind it into "the heel is going to break my arm so that I can never hold my daughter". I know the Ogogo stuff is seen as the big turning point, and it super is, but frankly there were elements already showing well before then during the Daily's Place era that people were already starting to look at sideways. Being in charge of his creative direction meant everything was very him-centric, stories were about Cody and focused on Cody and everyone's motivations were about Cody but Cody's motivations were always also about Cody. In WWE, it seems like they haven't given him enough control over the finer everythings of his own storylines to be able to make himself the center of the universe like that. I think that's the really big key to it; it's an audience that hasn't had to see him digging his heels in on his most self-indulgent ideas. They can keep him as a top babyface without tipping into complete lunacy. Cody: I wanna light myself on fire HHH: f*** no Cody: I wanna talk about how my baby ended racism HHH: f*** no Cody: I wanna flip off a cage HHH: how about brock breaks your arm and you wear a cast in your instagram pictures Cody: f*** yeah
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Post by bearned on Aug 2, 2023 0:25:52 GMT -5
Cody seems like a smart guy but almost nothing he says or does really comes across as genuine. So I have a hard time believing anything he says. I guess that’s kind of understandable when you grow up a Rhodes in dis bizness - the ego, the flair for the dramatic etc
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Post by markymark on Aug 2, 2023 8:33:08 GMT -5
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Post by uewfigfed on Aug 2, 2023 10:56:37 GMT -5
It's kind of telling that the only real shots being fired are coming from one side. Anyway, Cody is his father's son in so many ways, up to and including being a wee bit of an egomaniac who wants everything to revolve around him. Which.. fair, honestly, you have to in order to really make it in wrestling. Because of that, I figure when AEW stopped being Cody's playhouse and Tony Khan started dictating what is and isn't going to happen with the booking, he realized that he may as well go do what he's told in the WWE for more cultural cachet. I have a LOT of bitches and complaints about TK's booking decisions as of late, but I 100% stand by him telling Cody to stop dicking around if that's what happened. It just wasn’t a good fit anymore. I watched the bio last night and it brought me back to the volatile reactions Cody was getting. They don’t touch on that but Cody being universally beloved in WWE, amidst one of the biggest losses ever, compared to his final months in AEW is just wild. the fact that Trips still cant help himself but to throw nonsensical potshots should make them rest easy honestly. 4 years in and theyre still shittin on NXT
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 2, 2023 10:58:18 GMT -5
Not Cody's words but presumably sanctioned by him since it's his documentary
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Post by fw91 on Aug 2, 2023 12:43:00 GMT -5
I still insist that this is all being blown out of proportion, and tribalism is making this much less benign than it really is.
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Post by dynamitekidd on Aug 2, 2023 12:57:22 GMT -5
Triple H just comes across so smug, glad Tony hit back.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Aug 2, 2023 14:41:58 GMT -5
“Number one in the UK on TV” is a bit of a stretch. WWE TV is only available on BT Sports; the most expensive subscription service in the UK (sports always is) and is shown live at 1am. AEW is on free TV at like 9pm or something. Talk about apples and oranges. He really could have made a better point than that.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 2, 2023 15:07:39 GMT -5
“Number one in the UK on TV” is a bit of a stretch. WWE TV is only available on BT Sports; the most expensive subscription service in the UK (sports always is) and is shown live at 1am. AEW is on free TV at like 9pm or something. Talk about apples and oranges. He really could have made a better point than that. It's a valid point. Many UK AEW fans don't watch on ITV at all, they subscribe to Fite instead (like me). Although the full RAW and Smackdown broadcasts are only on BT Sport, highlight shows are on Channel 5 and are available on demand.
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Post by eJm on Aug 2, 2023 15:25:12 GMT -5
“Number one in the UK on TV” is a bit of a stretch. WWE TV is only available on BT Sports; the most expensive subscription service in the UK (sports always is) and is shown live at 1am. AEW is on free TV at like 9pm or something. Talk about apples and oranges. He really could have made a better point than that. It's a valid point. Many UK AEW fans don't watch on ITV at all, they subscribe to Fite instead (like me). Although the full RAW and Smackdown broadcasts are only on BT Sport, highlight shows are on Channel 5 and are available on demand. Yeah, if it wasn’t doing as well as it was (and from what I saw, it’s doing surprisingly well considering the airing schedule and Fite TV), there wouldn’t be a point of acknowledging it nor, slight hot take here, All In would be in the UK at all. EDIT: Like, you have to remember, Impact was a flagship of Challenge TV for a bit and that lead to the UK tours.
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Post by bearned on Aug 2, 2023 15:55:01 GMT -5
Triple H just comes across so smug, glad Tony hit back. The fact AEW beat NXT in the ratings will forever live rent free in HHH’s head.
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