XIII
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Post by XIII on Sept 1, 2023 11:53:33 GMT -5
Nikita Koloff turning because Magnum TA was in a, career ending, car accident was pretty lame, but people loved it. Hey now, he wept for Magnum TA!
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 1, 2023 12:04:41 GMT -5
No roasting the Hulkster yet? Let's change that. The hissy fit when Sid Justice eliminated him from the Royal Rumble, which no one could stress enough is every man for himself.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 1, 2023 13:13:57 GMT -5
Kane becoming a face stands out after Snitsky. I mean he foce Lita to have sex and get pregnant by him. Forced her to marry him. Yet because Snitsky caused a mischarge he's the good guy?
Didn't Alberto pretty much turned faced by...running over Santa?
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Sept 1, 2023 13:18:11 GMT -5
Kane becoming a face stands out after Snitsky. I mean he foce Lita to have sex and get pregnant by him. Forced her to marry him. Yet because Snitsky caused a mischarge he's the good guy? Didn't Alberto pretty much turned faced by...running over Santa?The Alberto one was weird, they had already started shifting him to being a face on their regular weekly shows, but then during the Christmas episode of Raw, they had him playing the heel by almost murdering Santa clause and facing Cena in that MIracle on 34th street match. Then the next week they went back to building him as a face
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Nosnorb
El Dandy
Nachos and Fraggle Rock are TIMELESS.
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 1, 2023 13:26:12 GMT -5
Kane becoming a face stands out after Snitsky. I mean he foce Lita to have sex and get pregnant by him. Forced her to marry him. Yet because Snitsky caused a mischarge he's the good guy? Also Kane was a face against Edge because Lita left him for the Rated R Superstar. And we were supposed to feel bad for Kane over that.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 1, 2023 13:30:02 GMT -5
Kane becoming a face stands out after Snitsky. I mean he foce Lita to have sex and get pregnant by him. Forced her to marry him. Yet because Snitsky caused a mischarge he's the good guy? Also Kane was a face against Edge because Lita left him for the Rated R Superstar. And we were supposed to feel bad for Kane over that. Right!! Oh surprise the woman you did all these bad things to turned on you. We just suppose to twice forget the bad things he did.
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Post by CeilingFan on Sept 1, 2023 13:38:45 GMT -5
Nikita Koloff turning because Magnum TA was in a, career ending, car accident was pretty lame, but people loved it. In fairness JCP had no choice. Fans were already tired of Dusty vs Flair, and Ronnie Garvin wasn't pushed hard until 1987. Turning Nikita into a Face was the only way to go.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Sept 1, 2023 13:55:06 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter after being a traitor 'wanted his country back' or some shit.
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Nosnorb
El Dandy
Nachos and Fraggle Rock are TIMELESS.
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 1, 2023 13:58:59 GMT -5
Jack Swagger wanting Zeb Coulter to stop managing Alberto Del Rio and to go back to being a Xenophobic berk.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Sept 1, 2023 14:23:53 GMT -5
The Dudleys for beating up women circa 2002-03. Genuinely lost so much respect for the wrestling fandom over that that it's one of the major reasons I quit watching.
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Jake, The Jake, Jake
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Will never EVER get a personal title. Ever. Nope. Never. Not a chance. No way, no how.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Sept 1, 2023 14:42:02 GMT -5
Nailz - "The Boss Man is a crooked, sadistic man who abused me for years!"
The WWF Audience Who Watched Boss Man Handcuff And Beat All Their Favorite Wrestlers With A Nightstick Like Three Years Prior - "Nah, I don't buy it..."
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Venti
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Post by Venti on Sept 1, 2023 14:43:25 GMT -5
Weren't VKM(ha get it 🙄) in TNA presented as the babyfaces when they were having some misogynistic feud with Christy Hemme?
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 1, 2023 14:45:18 GMT -5
Weren't VKM(ha get it 🙄) in TNA presented as the babyfaces when they were having some misogynistic feud with Christy Hemme? Yep, they were emphatically the faces in the feud. It was really stupid.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 1, 2023 15:14:42 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter after being a traitor 'wanted his country back' or some shit. At least in that situation it was presented as Slaughter hitting rock bottom after losing the main event at SummerSlam, then had some vignettes showing him being remorseful, and then when the time came to actually show he was a changed man he saved Hacksaw (I think?) from a beatdown. Won't say that's necessarily enough, but it at least wasn't just a single promo or an out of nowhere thing. Sometimes there's just character changes that are hard to avoid for whatever reasons; they can work, since ultimately responding to what the audience wants is important, but it can still feel weird or out of nowhere. For me, I spent the first half of 2005 watching ROH and hoping Alex Shelley would dethrone Austin Aries as champion, given that Aries had stabbed him in the back and taken over Generation Next on his way to the title. They played up that Shelley was being rejected by the ROH locker room after his months of being the leader of one of the promotion's most hated factions, but eventually heel champ Aries and the rest of GeNext turned face by default since they got into a feud with The Embassy...which Shelley ended up joining! There'd been small hints of the Aries led GeNext turning face (mainly him telling them they'd follow the Code of Honor and shake hands before matches now), but the guys don't really do much to indicate they should be cheered before just feuding with some worse heels.
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 1, 2023 17:14:47 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter after being a traitor 'wanted his country back' or some shit. At least in that situation it was presented as Slaughter hitting rock bottom after losing the main event at SummerSlam, then had some vignettes showing him being remorseful, and then when the time came to actually show he was a changed man he saved Hacksaw (I think?) from a beatdown. Won't say that's necessarily enough, but it at least wasn't just a single promo or an out of nowhere thing. Yeah, In his initial promo, Slaughter said he was so hungry for the WWF title/power, he was willing do to *anything*. He then did a series of vignettes admitting he was an asshole. It was more of an effort than you'd ever see in 1991
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Sept 1, 2023 17:30:20 GMT -5
At least in that situation it was presented as Slaughter hitting rock bottom after losing the main event at SummerSlam, then had some vignettes showing him being remorseful, and then when the time came to actually show he was a changed man he saved Hacksaw (I think?) from a beatdown. Won't say that's necessarily enough, but it at least wasn't just a single promo or an out of nowhere thing. Yeah, In his initial promo, Slaughter said he was so hungry for the WWF title/power, he was willing do to *anything*. He then did a series of vignettes admitting he was an asshole. It was more of an effort than you'd ever see in 1991 In retrospect Sgt Slaughter really OVER achieved by getting a WWF title run and main eventing big events at that point in his career.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Knew what the hell that thing was supposed to be
Peace Love and Nothing But
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 1, 2023 18:23:02 GMT -5
Nailz - "The Boss Man is a crooked, sadistic man who abused me for years!" The WWF Audience Who Watched Boss Man Handcuff And Beat All Their Favorite Wrestlers With A Nightstick Like Three Years Prior - "Nah, I don't buy it..." I think he turned face because he was unwillingly to take cash to reach into Jake’s sack, hehehehehe, with Damien and retrieve the Million Dollar belt.
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EZ: Brainy Bae
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Sept 1, 2023 18:23:40 GMT -5
Kane somehow being the face against Snitsky for causing Lita to miscarry after originally stealing her from Matt Hardy and forcing Lita to marry him in the first place
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Peace Love and Nothing But
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 1, 2023 18:25:13 GMT -5
Kane somehow being the face against Snitsky for causing Lita to miscarry after originally stealing her from Matt Hardy and forcing Lita to marry him in the first place He’s upset the girl he raped is in pain, that he didn’t directly cause….I guess.
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Post by 4real on Sept 1, 2023 18:25:58 GMT -5
No roasting the Hulkster yet? Let's change that. The hissy fit when Sid Justice eliminated him from the Royal Rumble, which no one could stress enough is every man for himself. Also his face turn in early 99 after getting screwed over by Flair in the cage match. After all he had done in the last 2 and a half years and now he have to feel sorry for him?
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