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Post by Dang! on Sept 29, 2023 4:32:51 GMT -5
When heel MJF insulted Jericho and Moxley for their receding hairlines I thought it was just him being an oblivious heel being in his 20s with an already receding hairline, but the "pubic hair" insult at Jay White was completely stupid because Jay White's beard is much more glorious than whatever is going on in MJF's face. It's like Hulk Hogan would insult (80s) Ric Flair for the "ridicolous hair" on his head. Yeah, other than muscle mass (Jay White looks just slightly skinner) there's pretty much nothing where he could attack Jay White, but why even attack him at that level? It's oblivious heel shit and really throwing rocks in glass houses. LOOK AT YOUR OWN f***ING BEARD, MAXWELL! And then shave that shit until it grows properly. (I'm not Jay White).
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 29, 2023 4:41:34 GMT -5
Whatever you wanna think about the insult being low hanging fruit or stupid... it did exactly what Max wanted it to do, and likely what Jay wanted it to as well since he responded to it very well, and that was that the crowd loved it, and we got a damn "Pubic Hair!" chant out of it. Someone said it but MJF as a face is currently like "The Rock but Jewish", and that does work because currently MJF is indeed insulting heels with low hanging fruit insults, but he's the face, and the crowd is eating it up and behind him 110% of the way This would and does not work for everyone, you need some pretty special talents to get insults like this over, and MJF's one of the ones who a lot of the time, can simply make it work, whether it's true about Jay White's beard or not
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 29, 2023 7:11:39 GMT -5
I would say that AEW does have a real issue with having their wrestlers dunk on each other rather than actually cut promos
I would also agree that they often give their babyfaces heel shit to say
That said, I cannot believe this is an entire-ass thread about this, and I am sure Jay White's beard is totally real and he has full intercourse with dozens of women a DAY and has a really expensive car but it's in the shop right now which is why he can't show it to us
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Post by King (Super) Dragunov on Sept 29, 2023 7:47:53 GMT -5
I would say that AEW does have a real issue with having their wrestlers dunk on each other rather than actually cut promos I would also agree that they often give their babyfaces heel shit to say That said, I cannot believe this is an entire-ass thread about this, and I am sure Jay White's beard is totally real and he has full intercourse with dozens of women a DAY and has a really expensive car but it's in the shop right now which is why he can't show it to us And he totally owns his own house, and doesn't live in his mom's basement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 8:09:37 GMT -5
I would say that AEW does have a real issue with having their wrestlers dunk on each other rather than actually cut promos I would also agree that they often give their babyfaces heel shit to say That said, I cannot believe this is an entire-ass thread about this, and I am sure Jay White's beard is totally real and he has full intercourse with dozens of women a DAY and has a really expensive car but it's in the shop right now which is why he can't show it to us And he totally owns his own house, and doesn't live in his mom's basement. Nah that beard couldn't manage a target
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Post by Kalmia on Sept 29, 2023 8:53:07 GMT -5
I didn't like him doing the insults as a heel because it came across as being try-hard edge lord stuff.
As a face, it feels a little different though. It's more like he's projecting his own insecurities onto his opponents and as long as his opponents react the way Jay White and Samoa Joe did (by largely brushing it off and being worse, but in different ways) I think it works. I don't think the heels should be getting upset by what MJF says and they shouldn't shut up and take it. That was often the problem with face Rock promos; he'd just obliterate the heels on the mic and they had no comeback.
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Post by Nosnorb on Sept 29, 2023 9:55:30 GMT -5
I didn't like him doing the insults as a heel because it came across as being try-hard edge lord stuff. As a face, it feels a little different though. It's more like he's projecting his own insecurities onto his opponents and as long as his opponents react the way Jay White and Samoa Joe did (by largely brushing it off and being worse, but in different ways) I think it works. I don't think the heels should be getting upset by what MJF says and they shouldn't shut up and take it. That was often the problem with face Rock promos; he'd just obliterate the heels on the mic and they had no comeback. I was fine with the insults, it was more how Switchblade came off in comparision, dude didn't look in the same league as MJF on Wednesday. He really should have brought either the Ass Boys, Juice or both to the ring alongside him, it seemed strange he told them to go to the back (unless they were changing into ninja gear).
I love the Bang Bang Gang, and after Cole got injured I understand just having Jay and MJF face off, but next time they should have The Gunns and Rock Hard out their with White.
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Post by chazraps on Sept 29, 2023 10:37:53 GMT -5
By all accounts, isn't MJF universally considered a cutie pie?
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Post by asuka007 on Sept 29, 2023 11:05:20 GMT -5
If you’ve seen Jay’s wife, guy must be doing something right.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Sept 29, 2023 11:12:02 GMT -5
If you’ve seen Jay’s wife, guy must be doing something right.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 11:34:47 GMT -5
By all accounts, isn't MJF universally considered a cutie pie? or an incel according to aew canon/he who shall not be named and who you choose to believe haha
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 29, 2023 11:37:34 GMT -5
By all accounts, isn't MJF universally considered a cutie pie? Someone should ask Max Caster, I'm sure he has an opinion on this matter.
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Post by HIM on Sept 29, 2023 16:51:59 GMT -5
I would say that AEW does have a real issue with having their wrestlers dunk on each other rather than actually cut promosI would also agree that they often give their babyfaces heel shit to say That said, I cannot believe this is an entire-ass thread about this, and I am sure Jay White's beard is totally real and he has full intercourse with dozens of women a DAY and has a really expensive car but it's in the shop right now which is why he can't show it to us Yeah I've actually noticed that myself. In a lot of promos, the insults to the opponent stick out more than the pure purpose of the promo or feud. It sort of reminds me of old school "Superman Cena" promos in that he said a lot of nothing, made fun of his opponents and then said he'd beat their ass. That was it.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 29, 2023 20:38:09 GMT -5
By all accounts, isn't MJF universally considered a cutie pie? or an incel according to aew canon/he who shall not be named and who you choose to believe haha I don't think you can both be an incel and publicly engaged, even if the engagement didn't last.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Sept 29, 2023 22:49:32 GMT -5
If you’ve seen Jay’s wife, guy must be doing something right. A search for "Jay White wife" into Google images gave me this: What the f***. I'm not even talking about his wife. I can't stop thinking about his outfit.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Sept 29, 2023 23:30:00 GMT -5
A search for "Jay White wife" into Google images gave me this: What the f***. I'm not even talking about his wife. I can't stop thinking about his outfit. Ah. Yeah, I've unfortunately seen this issue before. It's the Google search algorithm that gets weird at times now that AI imaging has become so accessible in the last year. It really has become difficult to tell apart the real images from those generated. Even the "hand trick" has become something of the past, what with how fast the technology is moving. Hell, pretty soon deep-fakes will be so common they may become a legitimate risk to our security as a species. Luckily for you, I know how to recognize and can cipher images. After some difficult decoding I was able to clean up this picture and get it back to it's original. Chilling stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 23:38:22 GMT -5
or an incel according to aew canon/he who shall not be named and who you choose to believe haha I don't think you can both be an incel and publicly engaged, even if the engagement didn't last. Oh I am not arguing it simply stating that Punk proposed that on AEW TV
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2023 23:40:08 GMT -5
A search for "Jay White wife" into Google images gave me this: What the f***. I'm not even talking about his wife. I can't stop thinking about his outfit. Yeah didn't have Tennessee Jay White on my bingo card either haha
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 30, 2023 6:07:14 GMT -5
I think that wrestlers should generally avoid targeting looks unless it's part of the gimmick or story (eg dashing Cody Rhodes). Ricky Starkz likes doing it too and loses me each time, especially against MJF weirdly enough. If they are going there at least make sure it's creative and not a lazy stock insult.
It's just a creative dead end. Nobody watching thinks oh he insulted his beard now I gotta watch their match.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 30, 2023 8:09:21 GMT -5
I would say that AEW does have a real issue with having their wrestlers dunk on each other rather than actually cut promos I would also agree that they often give their babyfaces heel shit to say That said, I cannot believe this is an entire-ass thread about this, and I am sure Jay White's beard is totally real and he has full intercourse with dozens of women a DAY and has a really expensive car but it's in the shop right now which is why he can't show it to us no no no, that's just what Meltzer wrote about Matt Riddle this morning.
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