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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 9, 2024 5:45:00 GMT -5
Danielson? FTR? Garcia? Eddie Kingston and his best buddy TK? I’m talking to you.
Knock it off. Now. You’re embarrassing yourselves.
That is all.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Jan 9, 2024 5:51:34 GMT -5
It’s a gimmick that’s always gonna get over with their hardcore base that were turned off other promotions by an overt amount of sports entertainment.
But it’s not like AEW doesn’t produce its fair share of sports entertainment anyway so that’s there for all the people who enjoy it.
Honestly unless this is a joke that I’m completely missing it feels that maybe you’re taking these things way too much to heart. It’s not that serious…
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 9, 2024 5:59:19 GMT -5
Clash are you seriously including Khan himself as one of the anti-sports entertainment crowd because you know that's nonsense
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 9, 2024 5:59:23 GMT -5
It’s a gimmick that’s always gonna get over with their hardcore base that were turned off other promotions by an overt amount of sports entertainment. But it’s not like AEW doesn’t produce its fair share of sports entertainment anyway so that’s there for all the people who enjoy it. Honestly unless this is a joke that I’m completely missing it feels that maybe you’re taking these things way too much to heart. It’s not that serious… It’s mostly in jest, just wanted to have some fun.
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AdamAFL was sooooo wrong
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Jan 9, 2024 6:00:42 GMT -5
It’s a gimmick that’s always gonna get over with their hardcore base that were turned off other promotions by an overt amount of sports entertainment. But it’s not like AEW doesn’t produce its fair share of sports entertainment anyway so that’s there for all the people who enjoy it. Honestly unless this is a joke that I’m completely missing it feels that maybe you’re taking these things way too much to heart. It’s not that serious… It’s mostly in jest, just wanted to have some fun. My apologies. My inability to guage sarcasm in textual form strikes again!
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 9, 2024 6:13:36 GMT -5
Clash are you seriously including Khan himself as one of the anti-sports entertainment crowd because you know that's nonsense He’s their accomplice.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 9, 2024 6:13:45 GMT -5
NEVER!
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 9, 2024 7:24:00 GMT -5
They should book Dax vs Garcia. If Garcia loses he's never gonna dance again. If Dax loses FTR have to follow Garcia's lead in a dance based trio. Dax loses. More dancing for everyone.
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Post by KME on Jan 9, 2024 7:28:22 GMT -5
I refuse to believe anything about Eddie Kingston is a character. Pretty sure he legitimately hates "sports entertainment" and most other things. And I love him for that.
The whole thing is a fine line anyway, AEW do a lot of goofy stuff but generally get the tone right for me, I mostly find the stuff intended to be funny to be so, whereas I mostly found WWE's attempts at humour in the bad years to be a combination of unfunny, offensive, cringeworthy, puerile, tactless, and gross. And I think that's what most people associate "sports entertainment" with, not stuff outside of wrestling which has always existed, like long promos, comedy etc but WWE's own brand of it, and the actual term "sports entertainment" which obviously people despise.
Mox is one that fascinates me, one of the best talkers in the business but doesn't seem to overly like promo segments, couple of times I can recall him seeming irritated and saying "this isn't All Elite Talking" and it didn't feel like it was aimed at his opponent (don't even think there was a specific opponent on one of the instances). Remember Kenny making a similar comment himself though he's a weaker promo and it's more understandable. I mostly favour the in ring stuff but that kind of thing goes too far in the other direction for me, there does need to be some non-in ring stuff too. But again in Mox's case it probably just comes from bad experiences in WWE.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 9, 2024 7:41:49 GMT -5
When I take over All Elite Wrestling, I’m going to hire a psychoanalyst and we’re running tests on new stars to find out if when they close their eyes or if they’re dreaming they constantly see in their heads that famous clip of Vince Mcmahon laughing evilly like a madman. If the answer is “no”, then they get an automatic TNT title shot
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 9, 2024 8:38:25 GMT -5
When I take over All Elite Wrestling, I’m going to hire a psychoanalyst and we’re running tests on new stars to find out if when they close their eyes or if they’re dreaming they constantly see in their heads that famous clip of Vince Mcmahon laughing evilly like a madman. If the answer is “no”, then they get an automatic TNT title shot While very quietly, very subtlely, maybe even subliminally, pumping "NO CHANCE IN HELL" through the office.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 9, 2024 9:38:18 GMT -5
Now that the “evil authority figure” seems to have finally been rendered extinct, “SRS WRESTLER” is the next character-type I’d like to see vanish (not just in AEW. Everywhere)
Bret Hart is the patron saint of taking himself too seriously and he still found time to hang out with Santa and William Shatner. It’s ok to not want to be TL Hopper but the “dis business” stuff is just so boring to me in the year 2024.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 9, 2024 9:45:16 GMT -5
Now that the “evil authority figure” seems to have finally been rendered extinct, “SRS WRESTLER” is the next character-type I’d like to see vanish (not just in AEW. Everywhere) Bret Hart is the patron saint of taking himself too seriously and he still found time to hang out with Santa and William Shatner. It’s ok to not want to be TL Hopper but the “dis business” stuff is just so boring to me in the year 2024. Put FTR under goofy masks and full-body coverage outfits and rename them "Fruit Cocktail" and "Caesar Salad". Also : Caesar Salad cuts promos as if he's from Ancient Rome.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2024 9:49:39 GMT -5
Ah the always fun discussion of ...pro wrestling vs sports entertainment.
My only issue with this has always been the complete tonal clash when companies try to integrate specifically spoopy shit and then wanna go all ESPN.
Always comes back to what the company wants to be.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 9, 2024 9:54:39 GMT -5
Now that the “evil authority figure” seems to have finally been rendered extinct, “SRS WRESTLER” is the next character-type I’d like to see vanish (not just in AEW. Everywhere) Bret Hart is the patron saint of taking himself too seriously and he still found time to hang out with Santa and William Shatner. It’s ok to not want to be TL Hopper but the “dis business” stuff is just so boring to me in the year 2024. Bret was more like Gunther in that he was serious in a campy way. A determined badass and family man but he also walked around in giant pink epaulette jackets. Also Shawn was such a slimy shit that you got why he hated him so much.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jan 9, 2024 13:19:45 GMT -5
When I take over All Elite Wrestling, I’m going to hire a psychoanalyst and we’re running tests on new stars to find out if when they close their eyes or if they’re dreaming they constantly see in their heads that famous clip of Vince Mcmahon laughing evilly like a madman. If the answer is “no”, then they get an automatic TNT title shot Hot damn! TNT title shot for me!!
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Post by Wardlow on Wardlow 54 on Jan 9, 2024 14:11:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't actually mind if they had just ONE act that was inherently anti-fun and had them go RTC on the goofier acts. Even have them "indoctrinate" some of the lower-tier guys, like Nese and Daivari. I would personally nominate Peter Avalon, since he fits the prototype that Stevie Richards did when he formed Right to Censor. Call it Write to Wrestle or something stupid like that lol
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Post by neilc on Jan 9, 2024 14:22:06 GMT -5
They should book Dax vs Garcia. If Garcia loses he's never gonna dance again. If Dax loses FTR have to follow Garcia's lead in a dance based trio. Dax loses. More dancing for everyone. I would root for Dax so hard in that one. I may be contrary to everyone else, but if Nana or Garcia never danced again, I'd be cool with it.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 9, 2024 14:24:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't actually mind if they had just ONE act that was inherently anti-fun and had them go RTC on the goofier acts. Even have them "indoctrinate" some of the lower-tier guys, like Nese and Daivari. I would personally nominate Peter Avalon, since he fits the prototype that Stevie Richards did when he formed Right to Censor. Call it Write to Wrestle or something stupid like that lol They should find some MMA Bro who insists on still being taken seriously as a "fighter" despite the fact he had to move to Wrestling because his MMA career went nowhere, and have him just be the Jock Bully Nerd who picks on all the "nerdy" and "cosplay" gimmicks, and spew a bunch of Toxic crap about how "Real Men" should be violent, but overly-serious, neanderthals.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 9, 2024 14:27:04 GMT -5
Danielson? FTR? Garcia? Eddie Kingston and his best buddy TK? I’m talking to you. Knock it off. Now. You’re embarrassing yourselves. That is all. Someone's begging for a fine!
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