The hell did they put live rounds in the ED-209 demo for?

[Confused Mark Wahlberg]

Seems like a poor plan in retrospect.

[BorneAgain]

The overall theme of the Robocop films is that OCP is prominent and fairly successful company that's not terribly smart in a lot of ways. The Robocop project is an incredibly flawed one being spearheaded by a man indulging with cocaine and hookers on the side, and keep in mind, he's the competent one in comparison to Dick Jones.

[BlackoutCreature]

Feb 18, 2024 17:48:17 GMT -5 BorneAgain said:

The overall theme of the Robocop films is that OCP is prominent and fairly successful company that's not terribly smart in a lot of ways. The Robocop project is an incredibly flawed one being spearheaded by a man indulging with cocaine and hookers on the side, and keep him mind, he's the competent one in comparison to Dick Jones.

Herb Abrams ran the Robocop project?

[Scoops]

Feb 18, 2024 17:48:17 GMT -5 BorneAgain said:

The Robocop project is an incredibly flawed one being spearheaded by a man indulging with cocaine and hookers on the side

So...an 80s businessman.

[Rumble McSkirmish]

It played up the notion that large corporations see the people that work for them as expendable, the "Old Man" reacting to seeing one of his underlings getting turned into hamburger right before his eyes with mild disgust was proof as that.

And to further drive the "OCP isn't smart" point home, in the sequel they thought that putting the brain of a notorious drug kingpin in their newer version of Robocop was a very sound idea.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Feb 18, 2024 17:57:43 GMT -5 Rumble McSkirmish said:

It played up the notion that large corporations see the people that work for them as expendable, the "Old Man" reacting to seeing one of his underlings getting turned into hamburger right before his eyes with mild disgust was proof as that.

And to further drive the "OCP isn't smart" point home, in the sequel they thought that putting the brain of a notorious drug kingpin in their newer version of Robocop was a very sound idea.

And in the third movie, OCP's poor business decisions catch up to them to the point that they're in danger of being bought out by a Japanese tech firm completely. The game Robocop: Rogue City (acting as an interquel between Robocop 2 and 3) goes into this further and explains a lot of why OCP is in the state that we see them in for the events of 3.

[xCompackx]

Feb 18, 2024 18:02:06 GMT -5 Bang Bang Bart said:

Feb 18, 2024 17:57:43 GMT -5 Rumble McSkirmish said:

It played up the notion that large corporations see the people that work for them as expendable, the "Old Man" reacting to seeing one of his underlings getting turned into hamburger right before his eyes with mild disgust was proof as that.

And to further drive the "OCP isn't smart" point home, in the sequel they thought that putting the brain of a notorious drug kingpin in their newer version of Robocop was a very sound idea.

And in the third movie, OCP's poor business decisions catch up to them to the point that they're in danger of being bought out by a Japanese tech firm completely. The game Robocop: Rogue City (acting as an interquel between Robocop 2 and 3) goes into this further and explains a lot of why OCP is in the state that we see them in for the events of 3.

Yeah, Rogue City has some pretty blatant examples of OCP's incompetence as a company. Good game, by the way, though I admit I did cheat a tiny bit to make Robocop walk faster because holy f***, dude is slow.

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

Feb 18, 2024 18:02:06 GMT -5 Bang Bang Bart said:

Feb 18, 2024 17:57:43 GMT -5 Rumble McSkirmish said:

It played up the notion that large corporations see the people that work for them as expendable, the "Old Man" reacting to seeing one of his underlings getting turned into hamburger right before his eyes with mild disgust was proof as that.

And to further drive the "OCP isn't smart" point home, in the sequel they thought that putting the brain of a notorious drug kingpin in their newer version of Robocop was a very sound idea.

And in the third movie, OCP's poor business decisions catch up to them to the point that they're in danger of being bought out by a Japanese tech firm completely. The game Robocop: Rogue City (acting as an interquel between Robocop 2 and 3) goes into this further and explains a lot of why OCP is in the state that we see them in for the events of 3.

Also, McDaggett is his own worse enemy.

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{Spoiler}Oh, let’s cut the whole Detroit PD force’s pay, I’ll just replace them with the street gang that’s been trying to kill everyone. Oh, sorry about Ann Lewis, no hard feelings, eh?

[Natural Born Farmer]

The lesson the executives took away from the demo wasn't "this poorly governed robot just murdered an executive right in front of us", but "man, that could get a lot of government funds flowing into our pockets if we could get police departments to buy it".

I don't think the general level of intelligence in the c-suite at OCP was that high.

EDIT: One of the few things I think the remake did right was the opening scene that showed how an autonomous defense system could be manipulated to do stuff most people would consider appalling for propaganda purposes.  Lesson there that's getting more relevant by the month.

[Zombie Mod is not a ghoul.]

considering Dick Jones has another co-worker killed on screen because he started the Robocop project, it's not so hard to believe he had the other guy killed off during a "live fire test accident".

the real question is what did hamburger meat guy do to piss him off that much? snort all the coke? borrow his best pen and chew it? suggest he shut down the stargate programme? borrow his stapler and return it empty? screwed his secretary? not flush the executives only toilet? park in his parking space? give back a borrowed roll of cello-tape without making sure you can find the end again?

[The Dark Order Inferno]

Greed, ego and corporate unaccountability. This thing that's massively dangerous can't go wrong if we ignore all the safeguards put in place to prevent it! My project could never go wrong so the safety regulations are just getting in the way of progress!

Same reasons so many things go wrong these days.

[No Longer a Produceman]

Just a temporary setback. A glitch.

[A Platypus Rave]

We'd have to spend more money to make the dummy rounds.

Also what's the worst that could happen?

[The Dark Order Inferno]

I bet it was developed under a 'bullets as a service' and wouldn't even turn on without a full load of valid OCP branded munitions.

[Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie]

WHO CARES!!!

kinney is swimming in spare parts ... for YEAS!!!

hey new heart from jarvis
LETS GO!!!

let's be honest, kinney is earning 15 percent on some beach!

as for kane, he was controlled by nuke, didn't last bloody long that did!

and even though 3 was two years late, i thought it was cool ... sure killing off ann lewis was a betch, but the otomos were freaking cool

[EvenBaldobombHasAJob]

Feb 18, 2024 20:55:06 GMT -5 Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. said:

considering Dick Jones has another co-worker killed on screen because he started the Robocop project, it's not so hard to believe he had the other guy killed off during a "live fire test accident".

the real question is what did hamburger meat guy do to piss him off that much? snort all the coke? borrow his best pen and chew it? suggest he shut down the stargate programme? borrow his stapler and return it empty? screwed his secretary? not flush the executives only toilet? park in his parking space? give back a borrowed roll of cello-tape without making sure you can find the end again?

He won a children's nuclear plant design contest

[Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite]

Yeah it SEEMS dumb and over the top, however I'm just glad Elon Musk is focused on making hideous cars and trying to go to space because I can easily see some shit like that happening in real life if he tried to design military equipment.

Edit: Also I remember my local news showing a clip of the upcoming Robocop movie when I was a kid and that board room scene is what they chose to show. Who thought that was a good idea to show on TV I'll never know

[No Longer a Produceman]

Turns out we had nothing to worry about. Mr Kinney is just fine

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[Starshine]

I mean, they didn't learn their lesson considering the first prototype we see in the second movie was also given a loaded weapon and committed murder suicide.

So I'd just guess they counted it as a standard overhead cost of R&D.