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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 10:27:33 GMT -5
And that is a huge issue not just with this but alot of recent adaptions is that lack or respect for the source material. Not saying it has to be a 1:1 recreation but this tonally doesn't even feel like a crow film like they could have atleast got that right if nothing else. I hear you. I'm just not sure that it "feeling" like a Crow movie is going to be the difference here. The audience they're trying to attract probably hasn't seen the original movies. And if we're being really honest, the only truly good movie is the first one, the second one had hints of being decent, Salvation was alright and Wicked Prayer was trash. It's not like they're remaking some beloved franchise. People like the first movie. I agree but also I don't think there would be this much uproar if this was any other character except Eric Draven...and IMO that is the biggest fault and why this movie is going to fail if nothing else because they are redoing Eric Dravens story and many people believe that itiration should be left alone and IMO I agree with that sentiment. They should have done either Joshua Zane or Iris Shaw's story
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 14, 2024 10:37:16 GMT -5
I hear you. I'm just not sure that it "feeling" like a Crow movie is going to be the difference here. The audience they're trying to attract probably hasn't seen the original movies. And if we're being really honest, the only truly good movie is the first one, the second one had hints of being decent, Salvation was alright and Wicked Prayer was trash. It's not like they're remaking some beloved franchise. People like the first movie. I agree but also I don't think there would be this much uproar if this was any other character except Eric Draven...and IMO that is the biggest fault and why this movie is going to fail if nothing else because they are redoing Eric Dravens story and many people believe that itiration should be left alone and IMO I agree with that sentiment. They should have done either Joshua Zane or Iris Shaw's story I don't know, I think there would be uproar no matter what, because people would still be like "ONLY BRANDON LEE CAN BE IN THIS ROLE" or there would be the losers that would go "OH MY GOD OF COURSE THEY MADE THE CROW A GIRL." They're damned if they do, damned if they don't. It's why I don't know that I would have even remade it in the first place, but now that we're here, I appreciate them just trying something different. This movie doesn't suddenly take the place of the original or something.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 14, 2024 10:54:35 GMT -5
Hot take: The Crow talked about like it was far better than it actually was because of Lee's death I’ve never really heard of it talked about as this amazing piece of cinema, it’s just a cult movie people enjoy. Like, I’ve never seen anyone compare this to The Godfather or argue it should’ve won Oscars That being said, decent trailer. Completely lacks the look and feel of the original but I’m sure this ends up being a very watchable, enjoyable 6 or 7 out of 10 movie. Probably struggle to find an audience and financial success, but who knows
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Post by BRV on Mar 14, 2024 11:03:43 GMT -5
I'm willing to give it a chance but the director's previous catalog doesn't inspire confidence. The fact that it's been sitting for like two years isn't exactly good news either. His last movie was "Ghost in the Shell," a movie so forgettable that I saw it in theaters and couldn't tell you a single solitary thing that happened in it. Like, zero. It's almost as if I was never even there.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 14, 2024 11:29:47 GMT -5
It looks better than I thought it would, willing to give it a chance. Think one of the reasons I love the original so much is because the mood is so oppressing it almost feels like a movie set in the World of Darkness TTRPG setting. The music is another great addition to the first, really complimenting the feel it's trying to give out. Helps too the villains are so over the top and nuts that Eric systematically killing them off feels really good. Not really getting that from this trailer and I kind of miss Sara as this ray of somewhat innocence in this rampage of vengeance.
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Post by cosmo on Mar 14, 2024 11:37:26 GMT -5
It looks just like I expected it to, like a goth Punisher movie.
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Post by SkullTrauma on Mar 14, 2024 11:38:40 GMT -5
It looks just like I expected it to, like a goth Punisher movie. that's an insult to goths and the punisher.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 14, 2024 14:47:17 GMT -5
It looks just like I expected it to, like a goth Punisher zombie John Wick movie. Fixed.
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Post by Doo Doo is a Ratings Expert on Mar 14, 2024 14:58:53 GMT -5
It looks just like I expected it to, like a goth Punisher zombie John Wick movie. Fixed. I want Bob Odenkirk's character to go goth in Nobody 2 now.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 14, 2024 15:23:09 GMT -5
2024 Crow looking basically like a black-haired Darby Allin is making me laugh more than it should.
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Post by Scoops on Mar 14, 2024 15:43:30 GMT -5
Looks alright, I agree though that it doesn't look very visually distinct. At least not now.
One thing I wish is that a director would really play around with the idea that he can't be killed and doesn't care if he gets hurt. They kind of do it in that part where he shoots through himself, but that should be the base. Every action scene should have him use his body as a weapon.
Have him throw himself off a building onto the escaping bad guy's car. Punch or headbutt a guy until his own bones are shattered. Set himself on fire and burn other people. Break a bone through the skin and use it to stab someone.
Don't just do the "he gets shot/stabbed and gets up".
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Post by cosmo on Mar 14, 2024 16:38:48 GMT -5
It looks just like I expected it to, like a goth Punisher zombie John Wick movie. Fixed.
You know what, that's fair.
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Post by ace on Mar 14, 2024 16:52:44 GMT -5
The movie was always going to be damned if they did damned if they didn’t. Brandon Lee’s version of the character is iconic so you don’t want to lean too heavily into it, especially aesthetically. It’s a difficult thing to pull off and, honestly, why 2 of the 3 jokers that followed Nicholson earned Oscars. You have to create something different when people already have a set idea in their head of what looks “right”. A lot of that is going to come down to the performance…which we can’t get a lot out of in a trailer. He’s a good actor…I’m sure he found some interesting road into it.
The problem for me is less his look and more the movie’s style. That you can get from the trailer. At least…what they’re selling it to be. Set aside the full circle of The Crow being a stylish one man revenge movie that influenced countless things and is now taking influence from one man revenge movies…because that’s at least kind of cool. The issue here is that John Wick/Punisher movies don’t feel like the right inspiration for the world of The Crow. Maybe it will all come together. Maybe it isn’t aiming to be anything more than adding a supernatural coating on a now familiar genre.
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Post by cosmo on Mar 14, 2024 16:56:34 GMT -5
The problem for me is less his look and more the movie’s style. That you can get from the trailer. At least…what they’re selling it to be. Set aside the full circle of The Crow being a stylish one man revenge movie that influenced countless things and is now taking influence from one man revenge movies…because that’s at least kind of cool. The issue here is that John Wick/Punisher movies don’t feel like the right inspiration for the world of The Crow. Maybe it will all come together. Maybe it isn’t aiming to be anything more than adding a supernatural coating on a now familiar genre.
Watch the advertising campaign be entirely focused on just the violence and action scenes to get butts in seats, and it turns out to be a morose tragedy with a few gun fights.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 14, 2024 18:12:42 GMT -5
Just realized with the guns and katana, he's reminding me more and more of DMC Dante.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 14, 2024 18:29:54 GMT -5
The movie was always going to be damned if they did damned if they didn’t. Brandon Lee’s version of the character is iconic so you don’t want to lean too heavily into it, especially aesthetically. It’s a difficult thing to pull off and, honestly, why 2 of the 3 jokers that followed Nicholson earned Oscars. You have to create something different when people already have a set idea in their head of what looks “right”. A lot of that is going to come down to the performance…which we can’t get a lot out of in a trailer. He’s a good actor…I’m sure he found some interesting road into it. The biggest gripe people within the fandom have is that it's a remake. The whole thing with The Crow is it's not a single person, it can be literally anybody. There's at least a dozen comic books in the series at this point, probably more, and every one of them tells a new story with a new lead character. With something this niche it's almost certainly going to need the existing fans on board, and taking two characters those fans are attached to – Eric and Shelly – and turning them into scumbag meth-heads, and having them boast to each other in the trailer about the scumbag meth-head things they did is, unsurprisingly, alienating a lot of them. If they'd simply named these characters anything else whatsoever people would still be clowning on it for how generic it looks and how silly Skarsgård looks, but there'd be more people open to it being a new story. Another issue is how generic it looks. If this were coming out in 2010 it would probably feel fresh and exciting, but in 2024 it looks like a slightly gorier take on a genre that is already pretty oversaturated.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 14, 2024 19:44:01 GMT -5
I thought the trailer was pretty decent.
Not sure I would've had someone singing in auto-tune, but the action looked spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 20:39:01 GMT -5
Allow me to atleast lob one positive so I aint some negative nancy even though I completely am about this movie.
Them upping the violence is great absoloutley love that and will probably end up being the high praise of the movie when it releases.
But also now let me say this when you remake a movie and everyone can find a way to reference a bunch of other movies instead of the one you are remaking....might just be me but that seems like a pretty damning problem.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 14, 2024 20:44:29 GMT -5
But also now let me say this when you remake a movie and everyone can find a way to reference a bunch of other movies instead of the one you are remaking....might just be me but that seems like a pretty damning problem. In their defence, they do lift a few lines wholesale from the original movie. And the guy suffocating Shelly with a plastic bag appears to be David Patrick Kelly, who played T-Bird in the original. But yeah, this movie looks to be cribbing so much from other movies I'm surprised Zack Snyder or Paul W.S. Anderson aren't directing it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 20:52:33 GMT -5
But also now let me say this when you remake a movie and everyone can find a way to reference a bunch of other movies instead of the one you are remaking....might just be me but that seems like a pretty damning problem. In their defence, they do lift a few lines wholesale from the original movie. And the guy suffocating Shelly with a plastic bag appears to be David Patrick Kelly, who played T-Bird in the original. But yeah, this movie looks to be cribbing so much from other movies I'm surprised Zack Snyder or Paul W.S. Anderson aren't directing it. I am holding it against you that you forced me to watch that trailer again lol. That does look like David but from what I can gather there is nothing anywhere that says that is him let alone that he is in this movie and if that was him that would be insane that no one realized it.
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