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Post by Some Guy on Apr 24, 2024 21:42:32 GMT -5
So I guess the answer to the question is form YET ANOTHER pointless ass stable that will suck ass and slowly dissolve over a month randomly. This honestly just seems to be the exact same f***ing thing as the Jericho Appreciation Society. Like, it's the exact same idea, he's just using different catchphrases. Just to piggyback since I mentioned in the thread...that was coming off the back of a super hot angle and they were able to bounce off of the guy who is probably the best mic worker in the world in Eddie Kingston. Jericho was hot, the feud was hot, the crowds were rolling for them and it got 2.0/Garcia going quickly based off of that. Jericho was also in maybe the best shape he had been in years and everything. Now this, this is a complete retread except nobody is over anymore. Jericho isn't over enough. They don't have an oppositional force of Eddie (who brought in Santana/Ortiz and Moxley/Danielson all of whom were doing great mic work/ring work at the time), and it's trying to force something that isn't there. Plus 2024 Jericho beating Shibata is just insulting, and there is nobody to siphon this heat off of anymore (what, is Hook going to start delivering promos about how he's going to murder Jericho and is being driven back to the hole he was in his whole career?).
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 24, 2024 21:45:03 GMT -5
Given how Jericho's ratings keep looking, that's just not a true statement, even if a lot of people online are fed up with him at this point it seems Bill's getting consistent TV time now and isn't on the bench, not the way people wanted it but at least he is. Jericho is not a big ratings mover anymore. He's also not killing them either So... I don't see an issue with a stable I guess when it gives guys screentime, and a lot who has been in a stable with Jericho has gone on to get their own storylines, gimmicks, and a lot more screentime, outside of guys like Hager... and people aren't complaining about that
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 24, 2024 21:52:55 GMT -5
Jericho is not a big ratings mover anymore. He's also not killing them either So... I don't see an issue with a stable I guess when it gives guys screentime, and a lot who has been in a stable with Jericho has gone on to get their own storylines, gimmicks, and a lot more screentime, outside of guys like Hager... and people aren't complaining about that The issue is Jericho.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 24, 2024 21:54:40 GMT -5
He's also not killing them either So... I don't see an issue with a stable I guess when it gives guys screentime, and a lot who has been in a stable with Jericho has gone on to get their own storylines, gimmicks, and a lot more screentime, outside of guys like Hager... and people aren't complaining about that The issue is Jericho. Yeah I know, people have decided they hate him now and there's really no going back on it But that doesn't reflect the ratings or overall consensus on Jericho either.
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 24, 2024 22:05:36 GMT -5
Yeah I know, people have decided they hate him now and there's really no going back on it But that doesn't reflect the ratings or overall consensus on Jericho either. What do you mean decided as if it's not earned? His crowd reactions are the most dampened they've been since like 2005. His matches and promos are probably the worst they have ever been. His feuds go on an eternity. He gets time EVERY week and has appeared on Dynamite more often than any single wrestler this year despite being maybe the 28th most over person on any given night.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 24, 2024 22:11:03 GMT -5
Yeah I know, people have decided they hate him now and there's really no going back on it But that doesn't reflect the ratings or overall consensus on Jericho either. What do you mean decided as if it's not earned? His crowd reactions are the most dampened they've been since like 2005. His matches and promos are probably the worst they have ever been. His feuds go on an eternity. He gets time EVERY week and has appeared on Dynamite more often than any single wrestler this year despite being maybe the 28th most over person on any given night. I'm not saying Jericho isn't in a slump, but I'm also reserved in at least seeing where this new direction goes Yeah it might be another stable, but that doesn't mean it won't work. I'm hoping it does, because Jericho is always as you said guaranteed TV time, I'd like other wrestlers to get it with him and be successful.
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Post by markymark on Apr 24, 2024 22:18:38 GMT -5
Well Jerichos opponent just got murked
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 24, 2024 22:25:02 GMT -5
At least he's not using Judas anymore?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 24, 2024 22:32:32 GMT -5
Well Jerichos opponent just got murked
Likely sets up Shibata vs Taylor on Collision to give him a win
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 24, 2024 22:48:49 GMT -5
What do you mean decided as if it's not earned? His crowd reactions are the most dampened they've been since like 2005. His matches and promos are probably the worst they have ever been. His feuds go on an eternity. He gets time EVERY week and has appeared on Dynamite more often than any single wrestler this year despite being maybe the 28th most over person on any given night. I'm not saying Jericho isn't in a slump, but I'm also reserved in at least seeing where this new direction goes Yeah it might be another stable, but that doesn't mean it won't work. I'm hoping it does, because Jericho is always as you said guaranteed TV time, I'd like other wrestlers to get it with him and be successful. This is the main issue, though. With younger talent you want to give a chance, you can have some patience because there might be some interesting stuff at the end when they grow. But when you are 53 years old and slumping this badly, you just need to be taken off of TV for a while. There's no way out of this for a middle aged man who is so stale and refuses to just leave so the crowd can have a breather from him.
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Post by hitman777 on Apr 25, 2024 0:43:26 GMT -5
I'm actually intrigued to see where this goes now. The whole delusional locker room leader shtick could be quite fun and it's a definitely a subtle poke at Punk.
Jericho is always at his best when he has something new and different he can sink his teeth into.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 25, 2024 0:44:20 GMT -5
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Apr 25, 2024 2:22:50 GMT -5
I'm actually intrigued to see where this goes now. The whole delusional locker room leader shtick could be quite fun and it's a definitely a subtle poke at Punk. Jericho is always at his best when he has something new and different he can sink his teeth into. it never dawned on me that this is actually making fun of those saying nobody in the back asks for advice. was so focused on Jericho playing into stuff people see about him but the real gimmick was there the whole time I can’t stand the guy but I do love me some Super Size Billiam so I’ll begrudgingly wait and see
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Post by markymark on Apr 25, 2024 7:14:45 GMT -5
Thus far the differences with JAS and IC is that Jericho isnt using Judas and hasnt recruited Hager and Sammy(yet), I kinda wish Kip joins Learning Tree next
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 25, 2024 7:20:17 GMT -5
If they're really not going to listen to the reactions and give him a break, then I want to see this become a thing where he CAN'T start a new stable. People reject him because they realize that his previous groups have ultimately all been about him. Broken down, bitter veteran Jericho trying to teach people lessons at least seems kind of interesting and lets him work with the middle of the card. But it seems like the crowds are just tired of the dude regardless of what he does.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Apr 25, 2024 7:55:33 GMT -5
Thus far the differences with JAS and IC is that Jericho isnt using Judas and hasnt recruited Hager and Sammy(yet), I kinda wish Kip joins Learning Tree nextYou take that back! (someone hide Kip from Jericho)
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 25, 2024 8:08:12 GMT -5
Thus far the differences with JAS and IC is that Jericho isnt using Judas and hasnt recruited Hager and Sammy(yet), I kinda wish Kip joins Learning Tree next I had a weird brainfart and thought for a minute that you were talking about Billy Gunn even though he hasn't been Kip James for years.
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Post by daaave on Apr 25, 2024 8:37:12 GMT -5
I've enjoyed Learning Tree Chris Jericho so far but last night felt a bit of a swing and miss. Not sure we really need another Jericho stable. Him being the deluded vet trying to nurture thr young guys and failing works much better if he's on his own
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 25, 2024 10:12:40 GMT -5
I voted no but I enjoyed his Learning Tree segment last night. His cadence and delivery reminded me of his old WCW promos in a way.
Had me hopeful because we've seen Jericho reinvent himself time and time again.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 25, 2024 13:16:44 GMT -5
I think it's kind of hilarious that Big Bill was last seen in a tag team that actually beat Chris Jericho during their tag title run, but now he wants to sit under the Learning Tree of a guy he's already proven himself against.
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