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Post by BRV on Mar 26, 2024 10:26:33 GMT -5
If they use Raw next week to justify that The Rock is doing all of this in service of Roman Reigns and The Bloodline, and to ensure Reigns' historic title run continues after WrestleMania XL, then it can kind of be explained away. But as of right now, they're using all their energy to build toward Saturday night's main event, which will in turn be used to build toward Sunday night's main event.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 26, 2024 10:33:47 GMT -5
I think it’s being booked brilliantly (and much more interestingly than if they had just went with the same Cody wins the Rumble, he and Heyman and occasionally Roman exchange promos for 10 weeks). It’s reheated the Bloodline story back near levels that it was reaching at its apex last year, it’s created a new monster heel and entertaining as hell Rock, and it’s sowing the seeds for the eventual Rock-Roman match down the line, whether with Roman as a face or as a heel. This is the possible end of Roman’s almost 4 year title run. HIM and his downfall should be the main focus as well as Cody finishing his story. The Rock and Seth should be secondary. They have an entire year to build Roman vs Rock after
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 26, 2024 11:01:48 GMT -5
I think it’s being booked brilliantly (and much more interestingly than if they had just went with the same Cody wins the Rumble, he and Heyman and occasionally Roman exchange promos for 10 weeks). It’s reheated the Bloodline story back near levels that it was reaching at its apex last year, it’s created a new monster heel and entertaining as hell Rock, and it’s sowing the seeds for the eventual Rock-Roman match down the line, whether with Roman as a face or as a heel. This is the possible end of Roman’s almost 4 year title run. HIM and his downfall should be the main focus as well as Cody finishing his story. The Rock and Seth should be secondary. They have an entire year to build Roman vs Rock after The entire point of the Night 1 match is in furtherance of the Night 2 main event and Cody finishing his story. Maybe they’re not beating the audience over the head anymore with the main focus being Roman’s dominant reign and instead it’s more layered (and interesting), but that’s still the climax of what’s being built here since whatever happens Night 1 directly links into what happens Night 2.
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Post by ace on Mar 26, 2024 11:28:47 GMT -5
This is the possible end of Roman’s almost 4 year title run. HIM and his downfall should be the main focus as well as Cody finishing his story. The Rock and Seth should be secondary. They have an entire year to build Roman vs Rock after The entire point of the Night 1 match is in furtherance of the Night 2 main event and Cody finishing his story. Maybe they’re not beating the audience over the head anymore with the main focus being Roman’s dominant reign and instead it’s more layered (and interesting), but that’s still the climax of what’s being built here since whatever happens Night 1 directly links into what happens Night 2. They’ve invested years and years and years into this Roman thing. He feels like nothing right now. If you can convince yourself that one match where he’s going to be completely overshadowed by the in ring return of the freaking Rock and his literal blood feud with Cody is going to heat him back up to make a match people stopped caring about months ago into the payoff to not one but two long term storylines…good for you man. but you have done that in your own head. Because it is not reality. At best…AT BEST Roman will man up and take the Rock out after the tag to establish his dominance. Then Rock will help Cody win and the whole thing will have been about…Rock and Roman. There is no room for three. It’s going to be about the Rock and one of the other two. Right now it’s about Rock and Cody. What a payoff for Roman. And the best case scenario for people needing that fake bullshit Cody story to have its happy ending…is that it ends up being about Rock and Roman. Congarts
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Post by eJm on Mar 26, 2024 11:34:16 GMT -5
And the thing is, the audience knows this too. Last week's Smackdown was down compared to last week because The Rock wasn't there and it was the confrontation between Roman and Cody, an opportunity to pivot when they didn't seem to.
Like, if this was all intentional, I don't know what it achieves except set up a singles match we won't get months from now for concluding the story of your biggest heel's downfall after years of lucking his way to 1000+ days.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Mar 26, 2024 11:38:15 GMT -5
Possibly.
I’m of two minds on this:
A.) a part of me wishes this build would have been more multilayered. And while Rock was doing his Final Boss thing, we’d see either Roman at the peak of his hubris or losing it. Or both.
B.) IDGAF. It’s all enjoyable, and regardless the climax of it all is Cody/Roman because of the title. As it should be.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 26, 2024 11:49:50 GMT -5
The entire point of the Night 1 match is in furtherance of the Night 2 main event and Cody finishing his story. Maybe they’re not beating the audience over the head anymore with the main focus being Roman’s dominant reign and instead it’s more layered (and interesting), but that’s still the climax of what’s being built here since whatever happens Night 1 directly links into what happens Night 2. They’ve invested years and years and years into this Roman thing. He feels like nothing right now. If you can convince yourself that one match where he’s going to be completely overshadowed by the in ring return of the freaking Rock and his literal blood feud with Cody is going to heat him back up to make a match people stopped caring about months ago into the payoff to not one but two long term storylines…good for you man. but you have done that in your own head. Because it is not reality. At best…AT BEST Roman will man up and take the Rock out after the tag to establish his dominance. Then Rock will help Cody win and the whole thing will have been about…Rock and Roman. There is no room for three. It’s going to be about the Rock and one of the other two. Right now it’s about Rock and Cody. What a payoff for Roman. And the best case scenario for people needing that fake bullshit Cody story to have its happy ending…is that it ends up being about Rock and Roman. Congarts Roman isn’t the one that needs the payoff, he’s made regardless and is on the downside part-time arc of his career. Cody is the one that needs the payoff, and he’s essentially already been made “the guy” by virtue of this feud without even winning the world title yet. And I guess we’ll agree to disagree on whether the climax of Night 2 feels like a big deal or not. I’m guessing it will. I think the last line of your post kind of says it all about what pre-conceived ideas you may have going into this though.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 26, 2024 11:57:14 GMT -5
I don’t think it is smart but I do think it is intentional. Hopefully Roman does some crazy shit on Monday or the last remaining SDs. They might not though, he’s always been booked as a weak champion but commentary acts like he’s dominant.
All you really need is Roman taking things too far until Cody returns next week and you end the show on a huge brawl. It can easily be fixed but I have my doubts on if that’s what WWE wants. They know what they’re doing and might want him to appear weak heading into WM, dumb as it sounds.
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Post by XIII on Mar 26, 2024 12:08:03 GMT -5
Going to be awkward when the Rock tears like 5 different muscles doing a snap mare and is out for a year as is the Wrestlemania tradition.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 26, 2024 13:36:38 GMT -5
WWE really should have gone to Roman and told him that, in the build to WRESTLEMANIA, he needs to be on TV more.
Him sitting on his ass at home most weeks while Rock shows up almost every week has not helped him either.
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Post by eJm on Mar 26, 2024 14:05:30 GMT -5
WWE really should have gone to Roman and told him that, in the build to WRESTLEMANIA, he needs to be on TV more. Him sitting on his ass at home most weeks while Rock shows up almost every week has not helped him either. I mean, the company gave him that contract with those amount of dates. It's not his fault if he doesn't have to be there for TV to do it. Presumably, they'd have to pay him more to come on more dates and they don't seem that interested in doing that for some reason. Roman's honestly the guy I blame the least for this.
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Post by Nosnorb on Mar 26, 2024 19:39:38 GMT -5
Roman should have known that he had to step up and show absolutely no weakness on the mic in this program, otherwise he was going to be chewed up by The Rock. Dude hasn't done that, he's kept everything the same and now feels irrelevant. It’s a guy who got big within the wrestling bubble doing the thing he’s done for the last three and a half years, against a legit Hollywood movie star doing the freshest act he’s done in over two decades. Of course Reigns has gotten overshadowed. Which is exactly why Reigns needed to step up and change something about his act to keep it fresh.
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Post by Matt on Mar 26, 2024 20:03:20 GMT -5
Wait until the Rock takes the belt from Cody and holds it until next Wrestlemania when Roman wins it back.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 26, 2024 20:44:05 GMT -5
WWE really should have gone to Roman and told him that, in the build to WRESTLEMANIA, he needs to be on TV more. Him sitting on his ass at home most weeks while Rock shows up almost every week has not helped him either. I mean, the company gave him that contract with those amount of dates. It's not his fault if he doesn't have to be there for TV to do it. Presumably, they'd have to pay him more to come on more dates and they don't seem that interested in doing that for some reason. Roman's honestly the guy I blame the least for this. Depends on what Roman wants honestly. If he’s cool with how the story is playing out and the Rock overshadowing him, then it is what it is, but if he doesn’t wanna play second banana he can extend the offer to come in more.
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Post by eJm on Mar 26, 2024 20:46:45 GMT -5
I mean, the company gave him that contract with those amount of dates. It's not his fault if he doesn't have to be there for TV to do it. Presumably, they'd have to pay him more to come on more dates and they don't seem that interested in doing that for some reason. Roman's honestly the guy I blame the least for this. Depends on what Roman wants honestly. If he’s cool with how the story is playing out and the Rock overshadowing him, then it is what it is, but if he doesn’t wanna play second banana he can extend the offer to come in more. Again, we know that's not how things have ever really worked, unless there's been an ultra dramatic change from the Vince era nobody's heard about yet. And to add again, if they want him outside of his booked dates, they should pay him to come down. It's not his fault they were willing to offer him the deal he got.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 26, 2024 20:59:24 GMT -5
Depends on what Roman wants honestly. If he’s cool with how the story is playing out and the Rock overshadowing him, then it is what it is, but if he doesn’t wanna play second banana he can extend the offer to come in more. Again, we know that's not how things have ever really worked, unless there's been an ultra dramatic change from the Vince era nobody's heard about yet. And to add again, if they want him outside of his booked dates, they should pay him to come down. It's not his fault they were willing to offer him the deal he got. I mean Roman got a way better deal than Cena even (in terms of work schedule). In Cena’s 12th year he was still full time. Roman has done a great job realizing his worth and getting a sweet gig. I’m just saying, if it were me in Roman’s shoes, knowing I’m working 10 times less and making 10 times more than everyone else, I’d atleast wanna make sure I’m Not getting overshadowed in this storyline. But then again the Rock might have a say and want the overshadowing of his cousin to play a factor in their mania storyline next year…. Hell he almost took the main event away from Cody
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Post by eJm on Mar 26, 2024 21:10:19 GMT -5
Again, we know that's not how things have ever really worked, unless there's been an ultra dramatic change from the Vince era nobody's heard about yet. And to add again, if they want him outside of his booked dates, they should pay him to come down. It's not his fault they were willing to offer him the deal he got. I mean Roman got a way better deal than Cena even (in terms of work schedule). In Cena’s 12th year he was still full time. Roman has done a great job realizing his worth and getting a sweet gig. I’m just saying, if it were me in Roman’s shoes, knowing I’m working 10 times less and making 10 times more than everyone else, I’d atleast wanna make sure I’m Not getting overshadowed in this storyline. But then again the Rock might have a say and want the overshadowing of his cousin to play a factor in their mania storyline next year…. Hell he almost took the main event away from Cody I mean, for all we know, he could have been pitched the idea, was good with it and carried on being paid the same for what he’s doing. We don’t really know. If I were in his shoes, I’d ask if they were willing to pay me more to do some spots here and there to add interest and if they didn’t, well, still being paid well enough (even though, frankly, Roman’s being paid peanuts and I’d be demanded Mercedes Mone money but that’s also why I’m not Roman) and just doing what’s asked.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 26, 2024 21:12:18 GMT -5
I mean Roman got a way better deal than Cena even (in terms of work schedule). In Cena’s 12th year he was still full time. Roman has done a great job realizing his worth and getting a sweet gig. I’m just saying, if it were me in Roman’s shoes, knowing I’m working 10 times less and making 10 times more than everyone else, I’d atleast wanna make sure I’m Not getting overshadowed in this storyline. But then again the Rock might have a say and want the overshadowing of his cousin to play a factor in their mania storyline next year…. Hell he almost took the main event away from Cody I mean, for all we know, he could have been pitched the idea, was good with it and carried on being paid the same for what he’s doing. We don’t really know. If I were in his shoes, I’d ask if they were willing to pay me more to do some spots here and there to add interest and if they didn’t, well, still being paid well enough (even though, frankly, Roman’s being paid peanuts and I’d be demanded Mercedes Mone money but that’s also why I’m not Roman) and just doing what’s asked. Hold on… Mercedes Mone is being paid more than Roman?
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Post by mountaindew on Mar 26, 2024 21:14:35 GMT -5
It feels more like Cody is feuding with Rock than Roman. I think this will lead to Cody(C) vs. Rock at Summer Slam.
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Post by eJm on Mar 26, 2024 21:14:50 GMT -5
I mean, for all we know, he could have been pitched the idea, was good with it and carried on being paid the same for what he’s doing. We don’t really know. If I were in his shoes, I’d ask if they were willing to pay me more to do some spots here and there to add interest and if they didn’t, well, still being paid well enough (even though, frankly, Roman’s being paid peanuts and I’d be demanded Mercedes Mone money but that’s also why I’m not Roman) and just doing what’s asked. Hold on… Mercedes Mone is being paid more than Roman? I’m only going by the idea of Roman’s salary being around $5m before royalties and such from previous reports and Mercedes having an “8 figure salary” from reports. If someone has something else, I’m free but that’s always what I’ve always seen.
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