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Post by Jaws the Shark on Mar 16, 2024 6:35:02 GMT -5
Not just WWE/F but wrestling in general was never the same for me once WCW ceased to exist as an independent entity. The day it became WWE/F and the rest was the day wrestling as once it was died.
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Post by Glitch on Mar 16, 2024 7:38:23 GMT -5
Compared to other forms of entertainment, Pro-wrestling is constantly changing at a very fast pace. Whichever you grew up with is always gonna be short lived.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Mar 16, 2024 8:06:29 GMT -5
It's only in hindsight that I realise I pretty much lost interest with the weekly product back in '02. I've supported the product for years after, through DVDs and video games, and those became the highlight of my wrestling fandom, but even that ended around 10 years ago. The product itself has been largely shitty for over two decades.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 16, 2024 8:12:11 GMT -5
It’s funny you say that, because this is the most invested I’ve been in WWE since I was a kid. I’m almost 37 now. I’m traveling to Mania this year because of that. Others are in the same boat.
You may miss the sexual predator, but not I.
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Post by ghost on Mar 16, 2024 8:16:53 GMT -5
I started watching the WWF in 1989, and became a casual in 2002.
Current WWE is the best it has been since then, IMO.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 16, 2024 8:30:38 GMT -5
Think this is bad, try being a WCW fan and watch the company you grew up with literally die. There was nothing so painful as watching Bagwell vs Booker T on Raw and see it branded as a WCW match.
With that said, I lost interest in WWE the night Jinder won the title and left for good when Kofi's ass was buried and forgotten. I realized wwe was truly never the company I wanted it to be and had to find the company that fit my needs. Never be loyal to the company, follow what makes you happy.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Mar 16, 2024 9:14:14 GMT -5
no shit, a sizeable chunk of the WWF wrestlers are as well.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Mar 16, 2024 9:20:17 GMT -5
Think this is bad, try being a WCW fan and watch the company you grew up with literally die. There was nothing so painful as watching Bagwell vs Booker T on Raw and see it branded as a WCW match. This was big for me. Living in the UK, my family didn't get any Sky channels or anything until I think 2000, so the WWF I saw as a kid was on borrowed tapes for the most part. Because of that, rather than the WWF my introduction to wrestling was WCW on ITV and later on Channel 5, and even though the latter came when it was in a downward spiral and the actual show was a bit of a punchline, I always watched it just because that was what was available. As I said further up, when WCW as gone wrestling was never the same again.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Mar 16, 2024 9:22:34 GMT -5
Can we get an update on Test?
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Post by XIII on Mar 16, 2024 9:24:52 GMT -5
I was a kid during the late 80s/early 90s golden age of WWF and WCW so imagine how I feel. lol
I think that part of it is that a lot of wrestlers just don’t come across as believable. This will probably sound like an old man yelling at cloud post but go back and watch Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Vader, early Hogan and how he was 6’8 300 lbs but he was in there selling like he was dying, the Macho Man and his entire presentation and relationship with Miss Elizabeth, etc and compare it to the people of today. The stars of today are over and have good matches and all of that but so few of them make you actually believe that anything they’re doing is anything more than their part in a television show. That’s why I really like someone like Eddie Kingston because he has that ability to make you believe that it’s real and he’s reacting like a real person would. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by Cyno on Mar 16, 2024 9:45:58 GMT -5
Vince McMahon was never just magicallty the man who made WWE the great thing it was. He had a hand in it, sure, but so did the wrestlers people loved or hated, hordes of behind the scene peopel including writers and agents, and a fleet of people on the production end who made it happen. Sole responsibility is not Vince's, and the companty lives on in his absence because he was only one part. A part that had grown toxic and harmful to that magic even setting aside his crimes. To give him credit is to let him act as though he created all of it, that you owe all of it to him, that without him nobody else could have been a star and what we saw could never have happened, and that just isn't true. He's a control freak rapist who wants credit for decades of an industry that was never a solo endeavor because even during his golden years, he had minds around him whse wisdom helped the company do what it did. The memories you cherish were always the result of the effort of many people who made it all happen. WWE is a billion dollar corporation. It is no more a name and a property now than it was six years ago making borderline unwatchable television to fulfill contractual obligations to produce shows. Don't mourn the loss of what was because the guy who signs the cheques has a different name. Frankly, few things have ever been overseen with such control by one person for as long as WWE is; it's an anomaly, but it's healthier for the company and the business if new visions come in and new people get to make decisions, instead of forever having to chase the fickle and gradually deteriorating vision of a melting rapist whose mental function was clearly on the decline. Wrestling is still wrestling, and WWE can still be what people like(d) it for. Star Wars isn't lacklustre now because Disney bought it, it's because George Lucas made Star Wars by taking old adventure serials and samurai movies he liked and making a space movie about them, and the people who make Star Wars now only really think "I want to make more Star Wars". Also like there are so many people here of varying ages... the WWE "I grew up with" has been dead for like 30 years. On Star Wars front it also acts like there's no good Star Wars anymore which is not really true? Or that everything pre-Disney buy out was good... which holy crap is that fundamentally false. The same kinds of people lamenting Disney ruining George Lucas' creative vision in 2017 were yelling about George raping their childhood in 1999.
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Post by dav on Mar 16, 2024 10:12:41 GMT -5
When the McMahons sold the WWE, your favorite childhood TV show changed forever. How did Vince selling WWE impact Animals Of Farthing Wood?
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Post by wildojinx on Mar 16, 2024 10:44:23 GMT -5
I dont know what the OP means by "celebrities everywhere". The boom periods of the 80s and 90s were at least partially because of Cyndi Lauper and Mike Tyson respectively. Heck, even before that you could argue Ernie Ladd (who was a famous football player before he became a wrestler).
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Mar 16, 2024 11:23:52 GMT -5
Quite frankly I’m glad Vince’s WWE is gone. Taking away the fact he’s an egotistical, evil, stubborn sociopath, his writing was ****ing dog**** for many years before he got the boot.
He couldn’t handle the fact that not everyone enjoyed his childish toilet humour and threw tantrums whenever someone like Daniel Bryan, Rusev or Zack Ryder got over when it wasn’t him who DECIDED they were over.
Give me HHH and Rock’s vision any day.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 16, 2024 11:24:10 GMT -5
I didnt grow up with WWE. Hell I was almost 10 when it became WWF. Just like I didnt grow up with WCW ,it was JCP back then. And I barely watched it. Keep hearing how WWE has improved. I turn on RAW or a PPV and usually within 30 minutes I'm bored and shut it off. Realized a long time ago the form of wrestling WWE provides isn't for me. Cool plenty of good alternatives out there. No need to watch something I haven't enjoyed in a long time. I'm a big Adam Copeland mark. That story they're building with Christian Cage is the best fued going in wrestling. But the wrestlers in AEW are too small. I want to see heavyweights going at it. That's why everyone loves LA Knight. He's everything WWE told us made a superstar for the last 20 years. LA Knight with MITB is going to be money. You thought he was cool, funny, and suave before? Give him a prop that doubles as a narrative device. I did see a pile of Edge in WWF/WWE aand he is decent. Not one I follow. Growing up watching Memphis/Mid South/Florida I got use to seeing smaller people. And now pretty much every show I am at filming I am taller than most of the roster. So heavyweights are fun but I also like seeing smaller people too. La Knight is great. Loved his run in TNA and then NWA. Haven't seen any of him in WWE outside of Rumble appearances. I watched each territory I loved fold or get bought up by big corps. Mid South/UWF got bought by JCP and wasted. Florida the same. Memphis just died. Might be why since about 2000 I haven't watched much WWE or any other big fed. Most weeks I catch Impact/ROH/NWA Powerrr and hte weekly Memphis show. Plus whatever show/shows I help out at. So the Wrestling I grew up with died a long long time ago. Guessing around 88 or 89.
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Post by thechase on Mar 16, 2024 11:38:45 GMT -5
When the McMahons sold the WWE, your favorite childhood TV show changed forever. How did Vince selling WWE impact Animals Of Farthing Wood? Kapatoo is All Elite!
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Post by Soultastic on Mar 16, 2024 11:38:53 GMT -5
Good f***ing riddance.
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Post by Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 on Mar 16, 2024 13:24:35 GMT -5
I dont know what the OP means by "celebrities everywhere". The boom periods of the 80s and 90s were at least partially because of Cyndi Lauper and Mike Tyson respectively. Heck, even before that you could argue Ernie Ladd (who was a famous football player before he became a wrestler). And there was the guest host era of Raw.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 16, 2024 13:44:22 GMT -5
The wings you ordered are gone. We ate them.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Mar 16, 2024 14:16:49 GMT -5
I dont know what the OP means by "celebrities everywhere". The boom periods of the 80s and 90s were at least partially because of Cyndi Lauper and Mike Tyson respectively. Heck, even before that you could argue Ernie Ladd (who was a famous football player before he became a wrestler). "Vince McMahon's WWE never had celebrities" is either a fantastic troll or the most absurd thing I've ever seen. I can't even try and say anything as a rebuttal because I feel like I'm in the upside down
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