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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Mar 24, 2024 21:42:24 GMT -5
I am a Jericho fan, but for how old school Jericho is, he's been one of the worst 'top guys' in wrestling history at protecting his finishers.
-Lionsault was his ground finisher in WCW, he even pinned Triple H for the WWE title with it, but allowed nearly everyone in the midcard to kick out of it when he was in the IC division.
-Liontamer/Walls was an auto win in WCW, and in WWE nearly everyone would break it.
-Codebreaker worked for awhile, again everyone started kicking out of it.
-Judas Effect seems to be mostly protected, but still too many instances of guys kicking out of it
It's hard to do classic matches, when people on random RAW's kick out of your finish on a regular basis. Kills the anticipation.
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King Koopa
He's just a Sexy Kurt
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Post by 67 more on Mar 25, 2024 1:34:23 GMT -5
Flair and the figure four.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 25, 2024 1:45:20 GMT -5
HBK is probably giving classes on how to do superkick kickout spots at the Performance Center
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Post by repomark on Mar 25, 2024 2:38:38 GMT -5
In later years towards the end of his full time run, Cena and the AA. Everyone was kicking out of the first AA on random Raws to the point that no one even expected him to pin someone the first time he hit it. It’s why finisher kick outs should be extremely rare and saved for very special moments, otherwise both the kick out and finisher are rendered meaningless.
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Post by 4real on Mar 25, 2024 5:19:12 GMT -5
The F5 was kicked out of so much that by the time Strowman lost to one F5 everyone thought that made him look weak.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Mar 25, 2024 6:06:18 GMT -5
Jericho was the first guy I thought of for The Liontamer/Walls of Jericho.
Oddly enough since starting with AEW he's actually finished a few matches with the Lion Tamer
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Post by tafkaga on Mar 25, 2024 20:23:52 GMT -5
Arn Anderson's spinebuster, for being so perfect and devastating looking, never finished a match. That always disappointed me.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Mar 25, 2024 20:36:35 GMT -5
The F5 was kicked out of so much that by the time Strowman lost to one F5 everyone thought that made him look weak. You reminded me of the time they randomly spent a year building the F5 back up, only for Reigns to kick out of like 6 of them at WM34 and still lost. |
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Post by ace on Mar 25, 2024 21:19:57 GMT -5
The funniest one to me is the Canadian Destroyer. Because Petey Williams actually DID protect the thing. He only ever let someone kick out of it one time. He saved it all those years for the night he got a world title shot in Canada against Eli Drake (LA Knight) knowing that when he hit it he had the most believable near fall he would ever have. But at the same time all of Mexico was making it a transition spot…and it was seeping onto American TV. Pentagon jr would do half a dozen every match in the same company! Now…here’s a fun fact…he wouldn’t do it on shows Williams was also on. Penta came in when Williams wasn’t there and did them all the time. When Petey came in for a run (that culminated in that title match) Penta dropped them from his move set. Still though…the Canadian Destroyer was, for a long time, the Schrödinger‘s Cat of pro wrestling. Both completely protected by the guy who made it famous…and utterly devalued by the Lucha guys who used it.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Mar 25, 2024 22:35:17 GMT -5
The funniest one to me is the Canadian Destroyer. Because Petey Williams actually DID protect the thing. He only ever let someone kick out of it one time. He saved it all those years for the night he got a world title shot in Canada against Eli Drake (LA Knight) knowing that when he hit it he had the most believable near fall he would ever have. But at the same time all of Mexico was making it a transition spot…and it was seeping onto American TV. Pentagon jr would do half a dozen every match in the same company! Now…here’s a fun fact…he wouldn’t do it on shows Williams was also on. Penta came in when Williams wasn’t there and did them all the time. When Petey came in for a run (that culminated in that title match) Penta dropped them from his move set. Still though…the Canadian Destroyer was, for a long time, the Schrödinger‘s Cat of pro wrestling. Both completely protected by the guy who made it famous…and utterly devalued by the Lucha guys who used it. And now it's a move that gets used in the middle of matches by nearly everyone in AEW. Dustin Rhodes uses it, ffs. I remember the first time I ever saw the move done, on one of the first Impacts on Fox Sports Net. My jaw dropped. Now it's commonplace. |
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