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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 29, 2024 13:44:38 GMT -5
I see this always being used as a dig on Seth, but I’d say Hiest of the Century is equivalent to winning the first woman’s mania main event. And I think Seth has won the belt more times than Becky. Sure you can argue that Becky is more popular but it’s not like Seth is a Jannetty
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Post by Cyno on Mar 29, 2024 13:47:46 GMT -5
Relative to their divisions, I'd put Becky as held in higher esteem than Seth is in his. Financially, I'm guessing Seth is making a lot more money than Becky, though that could change in a few months when Becky becomes a free agent (and I think Seth is becoming one soon, too). Charlotte and Mercedes both got massive bank and Becky more than deserves to be in that same tier as them.
That said, it's not like either is a midcarder or anything. They're as much a power couple as currently exists in wrestling.
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Post by Stu on Mar 29, 2024 13:49:56 GMT -5
We talking kayfabe or IRL?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 29, 2024 13:51:54 GMT -5
I mean yes but Becky is one of the most historically significant wrestlers in modern American history. It's hard for anyone to measure up to that.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 29, 2024 13:59:47 GMT -5
We talking kayfabe or IRL? Both I guess |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 29, 2024 14:03:12 GMT -5
I’ve always seen them as equals, which makes the wife digs very strange for me
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 29, 2024 14:06:10 GMT -5
She's the bigger star, but that'd be like shitting on Lex Luger because he isn't Sting. It's not like they are worlds and worlds apart, and he's a big deal in his own right. By all rights, both will be hall of famers someday and will leave considerable legacies.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Mar 29, 2024 14:37:29 GMT -5
I think they're around the same level in terms of star power but over time Becky will be remembered as more important.
A dozen or so people can roughly claim to have done what Seth has (one of the top stars, world titles, couple of Mania main events) but Becky did something that arguably had never been done before. At her peak she's wasn't just the most popular woman, she was the most popular wrestler in the world period. Has that ever been the case for a female before or since?
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Mar 29, 2024 14:41:44 GMT -5
I think they're around the same level in terms of star power but over time Becky will be remembered as more important. A dozen or so people can roughly claim to have done what Seth has (one of the top stars, world titles, couple of Mania main events) but Becky did something that arguably had never been done before. At her peak she's wasn't just the most popular woman, she was the most popular wrestler in the world period. Has that ever been the case for a female before or since? Arguably Rhea is there now. |
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Mar 29, 2024 14:44:15 GMT -5
I think they're around the same level in terms of star power but over time Becky will be remembered as more important. A dozen or so people can roughly claim to have done what Seth has (one of the top stars, world titles, couple of Mania main events) but Becky did something that arguably had never been done before. At her peak she's wasn't just the most popular woman, she was the most popular wrestler in the world period. Has that ever been the case for a female before or since? Arguably Rhea is there now. I don't think she's above Cody and Roman. Even Punk had like 500k extra people tune in to his segment on Monday. And Rock is around right now. She's popular but I don't think number 1 right now. |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 29, 2024 14:51:06 GMT -5
Arguably Rhea is there now. I don't think she's above Cody and Roman. Even Punk had like 500k extra people tune in to his segment on Monday. And Rock is around right now. She's popular but I don't think number 1 right now. I think if we're talking about including people who don't watch the shows but are aware of "wwe people", Rhea has to be one of the most popular people on the roster in decades. There are millions upon millions who don't even know what a clothesline is and go absolutely batshit insane over her on tiktok and social media. We can all laugh about tiktok or whatever and I know I have but I cannot tell you how many people I know who have never watched wrestling but bring her up constantly. It is wild. For those who do watch the shows though, Cody/CM Punk/Roman/Rock are the ones who bring in the viewers. |
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Post by Cyno on Mar 29, 2024 14:58:30 GMT -5
I don't think she's above Cody and Roman. Even Punk had like 500k extra people tune in to his segment on Monday. And Rock is around right now. She's popular but I don't think number 1 right now. I think if we're talking about including people who don't watch the shows but are aware of "wwe people", Rhea has to be one of the most popular people on the roster in decades. There are millions upon millions who don't even know what a clothesline is and go absolutely batshit insane over her on tiktok and social media. We can all laugh about tiktok or whatever and I know I have but I cannot tell you how many people I know who have never watched wrestling but bring her up constantly. It is wild. For those who do watch the shows though, Cody/CM Punk/Roman/Rock are the ones who bring in the viewers. Joey Ryan was getting millions watching his penis spots, too. I don't know how much that translates into sustained popularity beyond "wow look at this video." |
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 29, 2024 14:59:55 GMT -5
I think if we're talking about including people who don't watch the shows but are aware of "wwe people", Rhea has to be one of the most popular people on the roster in decades. There are millions upon millions who don't even know what a clothesline is and go absolutely batshit insane over her on tiktok and social media. We can all laugh about tiktok or whatever and I know I have but I cannot tell you how many people I know who have never watched wrestling but bring her up constantly. It is wild. For those who do watch the shows though, Cody/CM Punk/Roman/Rock are the ones who bring in the viewers. Joey Ryan was getting millions watching his penis spots, too. I don't know how much that translates into sustained popularity beyond "wow look at this video." That's not an awful point and thank god he's gone away but her popularity isn't based upon "THAT" spot last week or whatever. She is tremendously popular on social media and has been for over a year now because of people loving her look/music/etc. |
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Mar 29, 2024 15:37:53 GMT -5
She's a bigger star than he is, but I don't know why rivals use it as a dig against him because he's obviously very proud of his wie, as he should be. And it's not like he isn't also leaving a hell of a legacy in wrestling himself.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Mar 29, 2024 15:40:31 GMT -5
I think there's a decent chance non-fans would recognize Becky Lynch at this point.
Not sure about Seth.
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Post by mo on Mar 29, 2024 15:42:52 GMT -5
She might have legit been the biggest star in the company at her peak. Seth never really reached that point, both big stars though!
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Mar 29, 2024 15:46:34 GMT -5
Since Punk came back Rollins has really stepped up his serious promo work and due to the feud with Rock/Roman I'd put him on a par with Becky in terms of overall popularity (based on nothing but my own feeling)
Prior to that though I always felt Becky was the way bigger star since her first run as The Man got so over.
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Post by HIM on Mar 29, 2024 16:38:21 GMT -5
They're pretty much equal. They might be the most successful wrestling couple who didn't get it due to nepotism.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 29, 2024 17:05:26 GMT -5
No, they’re basically on the same legendary level.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 29, 2024 17:08:53 GMT -5
They're pretty much equal. They might be the most successful wrestling couple who didn't get it due to nepotism. Even with nepotism, I think they're tops. I can't think of any other couple where both partners are major stars and champions. Like Buddy Matthews is nowhere on the same level as Rhea, Andrade isn't on the same level as Charlotte, etc.
Closest might've been John Cena and Nikki Bella, but they split awhile ago. And I don't think Nikki came anywhere close to being as over (and certainly not as good a wrestler) as Becky was.
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