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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 1, 2024 14:21:18 GMT -5
If he doesn't, I'd very much like to know what the f***ing plan is because there isn't babyface on the roster close to being as over and important as he is. Like, trying to do this again for a third time is the sort of cockiness I'd expect from a company that'll make billions regardless but that doesn't mean they should test that theory. They can’t try it again. They’ve literally said “Cody never gets another shot against any holder if he loses this shot” it’s the classic “tell you he’s winning without telling you he’s winning”. The dude is winning at Mania, I would be willing to bet my (modestly valued) house on it. But that’s still like a 100K bet haha They’ve alluded to that idea but they haven’t actually made it a stipulation. It could easily turn into, “Cody won’t be given a shot unless he wins Money in the Bank or something,” where it is now.
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Post by Muskrat on Apr 1, 2024 14:26:09 GMT -5
They can’t try it again. They’ve literally said “Cody never gets another shot against any holder if he loses this shot” it’s the classic “tell you he’s winning without telling you he’s winning”. The dude is winning at Mania, I would be willing to bet my (modestly valued) house on it. But that’s still like a 100K bet haha They’ve alluded to that idea but they haven’t actually made it a stipulation. It could easily turn into, “Cody won’t be given a shot unless he wins Money in the Bank or something,” where it is now. I understand everyone’s apprehension about this match, but this is gonna be the most viewed Mania of all time. They have the hottest babyface on the planet right now with Cody, this is a Mania XIV moment and I am fully confident they’re gonna pay it off on Sunday the 7th of April. There’s no logic in a Cody loss here, last year I could understand it. Cody gets f***ed in his first title shot, has to spend 12 months clawing his way to another one. That makes sense. There is no good story coming from a Cody loss this year
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Apr 1, 2024 14:55:36 GMT -5
They’ve alluded to that idea but they haven’t actually made it a stipulation. It could easily turn into, “Cody won’t be given a shot unless he wins Money in the Bank or something,” where it is now. I understand everyone’s apprehension about this match, but this is gonna be the most viewed Mania of all time. They have the hottest babyface on the planet right now with Cody, this is a Mania XIV moment and I am fully confident they’re gonna pay it off on Sunday the 7th of April. There’s no logic in a Cody loss here, last year I could understand it. Cody gets f***ed in his first title shot, has to spend 12 months clawing his way to another one. That makes sense. There is no good story coming from a Cody loss this year Maybe he wins at Wrestlemania only for Priest to cash in MITB and win. A real "No Homers" situation.
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Post by Muskrat on Apr 1, 2024 14:57:46 GMT -5
I understand everyone’s apprehension about this match, but this is gonna be the most viewed Mania of all time. They have the hottest babyface on the planet right now with Cody, this is a Mania XIV moment and I am fully confident they’re gonna pay it off on Sunday the 7th of April. There’s no logic in a Cody loss here, last year I could understand it. Cody gets f***ed in his first title shot, has to spend 12 months clawing his way to another one. That makes sense. There is no good story coming from a Cody loss this year Maybe he wins at Wrestlemania only for Priest to cash in MITB and win. A real "No Homers" situation. I’m also fairly confident a botched Priest cash in leads to him splitting with Judgement Day, so I doubt that’s the plan. This feels like Mania XX all over again, nobody thought they’d actually give Benoit the big win but they did
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 1, 2024 15:00:20 GMT -5
If he doesn't, I'd very much like to know what the f***ing plan is because there isn't babyface on the roster close to being as over and important as he is. Like, trying to do this again for a third time is the sort of cockiness I'd expect from a company that'll make billions regardless but that doesn't mean they should test that theory. They can’t try it again. They’ve literally said “Cody never gets another shot against any holder if he loses this shot” it’s the classic “tell you he’s winning without telling you he’s winning”. The dude is winning at Mania, I would be willing to bet my (modestly valued) house on it. But that’s still like a 100K bet haha They should emphasize that stipulation more on TV. Play on the people familiar with Cody through AEW and therefore have heard of his infamous stipulation there.
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Post by eJm on Apr 1, 2024 15:10:07 GMT -5
They can’t try it again. They’ve literally said “Cody never gets another shot against any holder if he loses this shot” it’s the classic “tell you he’s winning without telling you he’s winning”. The dude is winning at Mania, I would be willing to bet my (modestly valued) house on it. But that’s still like a 100K bet haha They should emphasize that stipulation more on TV. Play on the people familiar with Cody through AEW and therefore have heard of his infamous stipulation there. Exactly, have Cody cut the promo on Raw ala the one he did to say he won’t challenge for the AEW World title again. Seal it and make people less cynical. Because even though Vince is gone, many people with that mentality are still within the company so of course people are going to be cynical.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Apr 1, 2024 17:06:27 GMT -5
Does the look weak on TV, win on PLE formula still active these days?
So if Roman stands tall on Raw/SD before Mania, does that mean he loses.
So if Cody stands tall on Raw/SD before Mania, does that mean he loses.
Or has this not applied at all during the Roman title run?
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Post by Muskrat on Apr 1, 2024 17:13:00 GMT -5
They should emphasize that stipulation more on TV. Play on the people familiar with Cody through AEW and therefore have heard of his infamous stipulation there. Exactly, have Cody cut the promo on Raw ala the one he did to say he won’t challenge for the AEW World title again. Seal it and make people less cynical. Because even though Vince is gone, many people with that mentality are still within the company so of course people are going to be cynical. They would be very smart to hammer that home tonight or Friday. Because everything is building to Cody winning, but there are so many jaded fans because of…. Well, everything the past decade.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Apr 1, 2024 17:44:16 GMT -5
Does the look weak on TV, win on PLE formula still active these days? So if Roman stands tall on Raw/SD before Mania, does that mean he loses. So if Cody stands tall on Raw/SD before Mania, does that mean he loses. Or has this not applied at all during the Roman title run? I want to say I made a thread a year or two ago about this and looked at all the PPV world title matches that year and who stood tall on the go-home show and who won at the PPV and I'm pretty sure there was no real correlation between standing tall on the final show making you more likely to lose at the PPV. It just seemed pretty random. In fact I think it was most common for the go-home segment to end with neither side gaining an advantage. Like it would be a promo segment/staredown with no physicality a lot of the time. I doubt that will happen tonight though. I'm expecting some kind of brawl/fight after what happened last week.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 1, 2024 17:47:50 GMT -5
Does the look weak on TV, win on PLE formula still active these days? So if Roman stands tall on Raw/SD before Mania, does that mean he loses. So if Cody stands tall on Raw/SD before Mania, does that mean he loses. Or has this not applied at all during the Roman title run? I want to say I made a thread a year or two ago about this and looked at all the PPV world title matches that year and who stood tall on the go-home show and who won at the PPV and I'm pretty sure there was no real correlation between standing tall on the final show making you more likely to lose at the PPV. It just seemed pretty random. In fact I think it was most common for the go-home segment to end with neither side gaining an advantage. Like it would be a promo segment/staredown with no physicality a lot of the time. I doubt that will happen tonight though. I'm expecting some kind of brawl/fight after what happened last week. Even then, I think the brawl will end without anyone getting the clear upper hand. Just lots and lots of security separating the two parties and barbs traded.
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Post by eJm on Apr 1, 2024 17:51:48 GMT -5
Does the look weak on TV, win on PLE formula still active these days? So if Roman stands tall on Raw/SD before Mania, does that mean he loses. So if Cody stands tall on Raw/SD before Mania, does that mean he loses. Or has this not applied at all during the Roman title run? I want to say I made a thread a year or two ago about this and looked at all the PPV world title matches that year and who stood tall on the go-home show and who won at the PPV and I'm pretty sure there was no real correlation between standing tall on the final show making you more likely to lose at the PPV. It just seemed pretty random. In fact I think it was most common for the go-home segment to end with neither side gaining an advantage. Like it would be a promo segment/staredown with no physicality a lot of the time. I doubt that will happen tonight though. I'm expecting some kind of brawl/fight after what happened last week. I want to say that hasn’t been the case for literally years but so many smaller stuff has happened when that did we only focused on those and not the broader stuff. Especially when matches on PPV/Network ended in DQ or No Contest.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 1, 2024 20:16:57 GMT -5
If nothing else, Roman beating Cody again would be very funny. So personally, kinda hoping the comedy continues.
Cody winning last year would have been exciting; this year? Nah, it's boring now. Gimme him against the Rock instead. That's the real main event.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Apr 1, 2024 20:21:08 GMT -5
I really wish they we un-unify the two titles.
If Cody simply won the WWE title only.
While Roman somehow kept the Universal title.
Roman gets to pass Hogan.
Cody gets to finish his story. The belts stuck together was the dumbest thing Hunter and WWE did during this reign.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 1, 2024 21:47:28 GMT -5
I really wish they we un-unify the two titles. If Cody simply won the WWE title only. While Roman somehow kept the Universal title. Roman gets to pass Hogan. Cody gets to finish his story. The belts stuck together was the dumbest thing Hunter and WWE did during this reign. But Passing Hogan doesn't mean anything... the only record is Bruno's.
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Post by Muskrat on Apr 2, 2024 9:50:19 GMT -5
I really wish they we un-unify the two titles. If Cody simply won the WWE title only. While Roman somehow kept the Universal title. Roman gets to pass Hogan. Cody gets to finish his story. The belts stuck together was the dumbest thing Hunter and WWE did during this reign. The unification happened under Vince. It occurred a few months before Vince stepped down the first time while Hunter was basically out of the company due to heart issues and the power struggle with Vince.
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Post by eJm on Apr 2, 2024 10:02:43 GMT -5
I really wish they we un-unify the two titles. If Cody simply won the WWE title only. While Roman somehow kept the Universal title. Roman gets to pass Hogan. Cody gets to finish his story. The belts stuck together was the dumbest thing Hunter and WWE did during this reign. The unification happened under Vince. It occurred a few months before Vince stepped down the first time while Hunter was basically out of the company due to heart issues and the power struggle with Vince. Just weird that, instead of doing anything really about that, he went with “create 2nd Place title”.
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Post by Muskrat on Apr 2, 2024 10:04:58 GMT -5
The unification happened under Vince. It occurred a few months before Vince stepped down the first time while Hunter was basically out of the company due to heart issues and the power struggle with Vince. Just weird that, instead of doing anything really about that, he went with “create 2nd Place title”. From what I remember hearing, that was basically Vince and Paul reaching a compromise on splitting the titles. Paul wanted a title for Raw, Vince didn’t wanna split Roman’s belts.
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Post by Ozman on Apr 2, 2024 19:03:07 GMT -5
Yes But I wouldn't be at all surprised if WWE doesn't give us the finger and have a MITB cash in immediately after. Or, even worse, have Rock take the briefcase for circumstances and cash in. Actually, I don't think that would be a bad idea. I could legit see this happen. Cody wins at WrestleMania (after many shenanigans due to Bloodline rules) with Rock accid costing Roman the title. Then, on the Raw after WrestleMania, Roman quits at the top of the show like he said he would if he lost. Cody comes out at the end of the night to celebrate finally finishing the story. He gets a heartfelt “you deserve it” chant. The Rock interrupts Cody, saying he’s here to start a new story. Jimmy and Solo come out and beat down Cody with the help of The Rock, leaving him bloody again. Jey and Seth come out to chase off the Bloodline. Damian Priest comes out during the chaos to cash in his Money In The Bank contract, with Rock either attacking Priest, or abusing his power as a board member to force Priest to give him the briefcase. Rock cashes in on Cody, becoming WWE Champion. Cody and Rock probably have their match at SummerSlam, with Cody winning due to interference from a returning Roman, setting up Rock vs Roman for WrestleMania 41.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Apr 2, 2024 19:35:47 GMT -5
Won’t be surprised either way. Honestly don’t care too much either way really. Whatever happens going forward will just have major Rock involvement for no good reason anyways. edit: voted yes I agree. I think no matter who wins, and however things play out, Rocky is going to be the main focus going forward. He's already taking the spotlight off of both Roman and Cody. I voted 'no' as I genuinely think WWE could end up having Cody choke again. Who knows, maybe Roman retains, then Rocky's like "Now Cody's book is closed for good The Rock wants to finish HIS story!"
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Apr 2, 2024 19:43:29 GMT -5
I voted yes to make 69 votes but I really don’t know. Why I didn’t vote before.
Theres a lot of common sense and forward thinking in keeping the belt on Roman. However, Cody winning seems “right”. And what the fans want more than ever.
I am 65% sure Cody wins. But Roman’s got a hell of a good shot.
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