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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 4, 2024 11:09:54 GMT -5
The unification happened under Vince. It occurred a few months before Vince stepped down the first time while Hunter was basically out of the company due to heart issues and the power struggle with Vince. Just weird that, instead of doing anything really about that, he went with “create 2nd Place title”. I think it was hard to split the belts because the Universal title is what held the record and the wwe championship is the biggest prize in the industry so it also had to be tied into the story, so they kind of just booked themselves in a corner with this one lol |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 4, 2024 11:17:49 GMT -5
Just weird that, instead of doing anything really about that, he went with “create 2nd Place title”. I think it was hard to split the belts because the Universal title is what held the record and the wwe championship is the biggest prize in the industry so it also had to be tied into the story, so they kind of just booked themselves in a corner with this one lol I mean they kinda had an out last year for a storyline way to split the titles. Cody wins the rumble, Cody wins at wrestlemania. Heyman being the weasely corporate heel points out that winning the rumble only gets him a shot at one title so STILL UNIVERSAL CHAMPION! (Even doing that still makes the rest of the year make sense... Brock attacks Cody for the WWE title, The Judgement day do as well, Jey and Jimmy still see Roman as weaker for losing to Cody and needing a contractual loophole to remain in power... and Roman still has his feud with like LA Knight.) |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 4, 2024 11:21:13 GMT -5
I think it was hard to split the belts because the Universal title is what held the record and the wwe championship is the biggest prize in the industry so it also had to be tied into the story, so they kind of just booked themselves in a corner with this one lol I mean they kinda had an out last year for a storyline way to split the titles. Cody wins the rumble, Cody wins at wrestlemania. Heyman being the weasely corporate heel points out that winning the rumble only gets him a shot at one title so STILL UNIVERSAL CHAMPION! (Even doing that still makes the rest of the year make sense... Brock attacks Cody for the WWE title, The Judgement day do as well, Jey and Jimmy still see Roman as weaker for losing to Cody and needing a contractual loophole to remain in power... and Roman still has his feud with like LA Knight.) Ehhh idk. I mean if Roman loses at Wrestlemania of all places and still keeps his multi year long reign with the Universal title, it just doesn’t feel right. It would be like a streak match ending in a draw |
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Post by eJm on Apr 4, 2024 11:22:47 GMT -5
Just weird that, instead of doing anything really about that, he went with “create 2nd Place title”. I think it was hard to split the belts because the Universal title is what held the record and the wwe championship is the biggest prize in the industry so it also had to be tied into the story, so they kind of just booked themselves in a corner with this one lol I mean, the solution is to not have done it in the first place, in a situation that was beyond avoidable, but *shrug*. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 4, 2024 12:25:19 GMT -5
Theres a lot of common sense and forward thinking in keeping the belt on Roman. However, Cody winning seems “right”. And what the fans want more than ever. Given that keeping the strap on Roman means that Cody is killed stone dead as a main eventer and never reaches the level of megastar, there is no common sense in having Roman retain in Philly. |
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Apr 4, 2024 13:40:36 GMT -5
Theres a lot of common sense and forward thinking in keeping the belt on Roman. However, Cody winning seems “right”. And what the fans want more than ever. Given that keeping the strap on Roman means that Cody is killed stone dead as a main eventer and never reaches the level of megastar, there is no common sense in having Roman retain in Philly. Nah, I think that’s hyperbolic and on the same level of reactions last year. I was right there with you, but they made the right decision. He’s stronger than ever. I want Cody to win. I do. But he wouldn’t be ruined if he lost. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 4, 2024 13:51:37 GMT -5
Given that keeping the strap on Roman means that Cody is killed stone dead as a main eventer and never reaches the level of megastar, there is no common sense in having Roman retain in Philly. Nah, I think that’s hyperbolic and on the same level of reactions last year. I was right there with you, but they made the right decision. He’s stronger than ever. I want Cody to win. I do. But he wouldn’t be ruined if he lost. I'm of the opposite mind. Last year had the luxury of the eventual understanding that there was a story in place of which WM39's loss was just Act One of. This year, especially after forcing plans to change, Cody has to win, otherwise his ceiling as a star drops to being an upper midcarder at best. |
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Apr 4, 2024 13:54:46 GMT -5
Nah, I think that’s hyperbolic and on the same level of reactions last year. I was right there with you, but they made the right decision. He’s stronger than ever. I want Cody to win. I do. But he wouldn’t be ruined if he lost. I'm of the opposite mind. Last year had the luxury of the eventual understanding that there was a story in place of which WM39's loss was just Act One of. This year, especially after forcing plans to change, Cody has to win, otherwise his ceiling as a star drops to being an upper midcarder at best. Again, I think that’s even more hyperbolic. I think Cody winning is the right call, but I also think things could work out (..maybe even be better) if Roman won. But agree to disagree and I don’t wanna just keep repeating the same sentiment so I’ll bow out. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 4, 2024 14:23:15 GMT -5
Nah, I think that’s hyperbolic and on the same level of reactions last year. I was right there with you, but they made the right decision. He’s stronger than ever. I want Cody to win. I do. But he wouldn’t be ruined if he lost. I'm of the opposite mind. Last year had the luxury of the eventual understanding that there was a story in place of which WM39's loss was just Act One of. This year, especially after forcing plans to change, Cody has to win, otherwise his ceiling as a star drops to being an upper midcarder at best. With the stip that he'll not get another shot if he fails this time around, Cody has to get the job done, and it's not hyperbolic in the least to say that if he loses this Sunday you can stick a fork in him as a main eventer. Dude has far more value to the company if he wins and reaches the next level than he does if he chokes again and is known from now on as one of the biggest Bottle Jobs in wrestling history. |
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Post by eJm on Apr 4, 2024 14:57:36 GMT -5
Yeah, look, if he’s saying on TV he won’t challenge for the belt again (and it doesn’t seem they have overtly as a stip but I could be wrong) if he loses, he either wins or you’re trying to find something for one of your top guys to do which, for another company, led to the Codyverse. And hey, that can work to an extent but if there’s no character evolution or any way for him to get back in the title picture, you’ll get the same outcome as the Codyverse.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 4, 2024 17:00:41 GMT -5
Theres a lot of common sense and forward thinking in keeping the belt on Roman. However, Cody winning seems “right”. And what the fans want more than ever. Given that keeping the strap on Roman means that Cody is killed stone dead as a main eventer and never reaches the level of megastar, there is no common sense in having Roman retain in Philly. He should win Sunday, but Cody is already a megastar and “the guy” the company is built around. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 4, 2024 17:25:19 GMT -5
Given that keeping the strap on Roman means that Cody is killed stone dead as a main eventer and never reaches the level of megastar, there is no common sense in having Roman retain in Philly. He should win Sunday, but Cody is already a megastar and “the guy” the company is built around. He's not yet, when he wins in Philly he will be. 'Mania is where Megastars are made. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2024 17:33:56 GMT -5
Yeah, look, if he’s saying on TV he won’t challenge for the belt again (and it doesn’t seem they have overtly as a stip but I could be wrong) if he loses, he either wins or you’re trying to find something for one of your top guys to do which, for another company, led to the Codyverse. And hey, that can work to an extent but if there’s no character evolution or any way for him to get back in the title picture, you’ll get the same outcome as the Codyverse. He hasn't directly said that but Rock's kind of beaten around the bush about it. Never actually said, "You won't challenge again," but there's been a lot of, "This is your one and only chance to finish the story." |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 4, 2024 17:41:45 GMT -5
Yeah, look, if he’s saying on TV he won’t challenge for the belt again (and it doesn’t seem they have overtly as a stip but I could be wrong) if he loses, he either wins or you’re trying to find something for one of your top guys to do which, for another company, led to the Codyverse. And hey, that can work to an extent but if there’s no character evolution or any way for him to get back in the title picture, you’ll get the same outcome as the Codyverse. He hasn't directly said that but Rock's kind of beaten around the bush about it. Never actually said, "You won't challenge again," but there's been a lot of, "This is your one and only chance to finish the story." The implication being Rock using his executive powers to essentially bar Cody from going after Roman’s title if he loses |
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Post by Ozman on Apr 4, 2024 18:36:53 GMT -5
Just weird that, instead of doing anything really about that, he went with “create 2nd Place title”. I think it was hard to split the belts because the Universal title is what held the record and the wwe championship is the biggest prize in the industry so it also had to be tied into the story, so they kind of just booked themselves in a corner with this one lol They had a perfectly good way out all of this at Clash At The Castle 2022. During the Roman vs Drew main event, Austin Theory shows up to cash in his Money In The Bank contract. He specifically said he’s cashing in for the WWE title. The match becomes a triple threat, with Drew immediately hitting the Claymore on Theory to win the match and the title. On the next Raw, Drew comes out for his championship celebration, only for Heyman to come out and say that the triple threat was only for the WWE title, but not the Universal title. This would have taken care of three problems at once: -Drew gets his moment in front of a live crowd -Roman gets to continue his historic run without getting pinned -Theory loses Money In The Bank without the stupid US title cash-in Also, Cody could have challenged Drew to finish his story for the WWE title, while Roman and Sami could main event for the Universal title, continuing the Bloodline storyline. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 4, 2024 18:54:49 GMT -5
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Post by bog on Apr 4, 2024 19:01:42 GMT -5
I mean, I hope so, but I wouldn't be all that surprised if he doesn't. They already f***ed this thing up a couple times over.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 4, 2024 19:08:21 GMT -5
I think this makes sense in helping usher in a new era. |
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 4, 2024 19:18:40 GMT -5
Either Cody wins or I just don't care anymore and walk away from pro wrestling fandom. I'm done with "wait and see" on Roman. Been waiting years and haven't seen shit.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2024 19:20:23 GMT -5
Seems like it'd be really stupid to revert back to the WWE title while you also have Undisputed written on the corresponding Women's title for no reason, but it was stupid to put that on there in the first place so...
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