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Post by fallandpray on Apr 4, 2024 9:27:55 GMT -5
Let's hear your opinions.
Paul Heyman feels he is!
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Post by callmekc on Apr 4, 2024 9:41:51 GMT -5
Let's hear your opinions.
Paul Heyman feels he is!
Paul Heyman is a conman who will say whatever makes him and everything he's attached to better than it is and anything good that happens he can tangentially associate himself with is entirely because of his genius. Brock is a piece of shit. That is where the conversation ends. Like Benoit before him, his ability in the ring is irrelevant. |
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Apr 4, 2024 9:45:17 GMT -5
Even separating the art from the artist, in my personal opinion Brock is one of the most overrated wrestlers of all time. His 2014-2024 "final boss" run drew a huge amount of praise and accolades when, for me, 99% of the time he was just grinding the week-to-week storylines to a halt and holding the world championship hostage to show up 4-5 times per year and have the same SUPLEX CITY match we had already seen 20 times before.
With the sole exception of one foot out the door flannel-wearing face Brock at the very, very end of his run I, quite frankly, think Brock Lesnar absolutely f***ing sucks.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 4, 2024 9:45:31 GMT -5
I’m surprised he didn’t choose Punk as #3. But as a talent, Brock is rated where he is suppose to be
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Post by mcstoklasa on Apr 4, 2024 10:06:15 GMT -5
Let's hear your opinions.
Paul Heyman feels he is!
Paul Heyman is a conman who will say whatever makes him and everything he's attached to better than it is and anything good that happens he can tangentially associate himself with is entirely because of his genius. Brock is a piece of shit. That is where the conversation ends. Like Benoit before him, his ability in the ring is irrelevant. We are equating him to a man who killed his family now? |
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Post by mizno1fan on Apr 4, 2024 10:13:23 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned Brock is one of the greatest of all timd
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Post by callmekc on Apr 4, 2024 10:23:39 GMT -5
Paul Heyman is a conman who will say whatever makes him and everything he's attached to better than it is and anything good that happens he can tangentially associate himself with is entirely because of his genius. Brock is a piece of shit. That is where the conversation ends. Like Benoit before him, his ability in the ring is irrelevant. We are equating him to a man who killed his family now? Murder and sexual exploitation are both over the "f*** you, get in the memory hole" line. I don't give a shit who is worse, they're both beyond the point where it matters. See also: Serena Deeb's scumbag husband. |
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 4, 2024 10:31:33 GMT -5
I think he's on to something. When brock is dialed in, he is INCREDIBLE & can make a match a million times better and more exciting
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 4, 2024 10:34:36 GMT -5
He can feel whatever he likes.
I think Brock tends to be thought of as an all-timer, especially in terms of monster heels that have longevity, and he's won a lot of titles and held them for extensive times. He's definitely got his flowers, so I'd call him "rated". Big deal and treated like one.
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Post by HIM on Apr 4, 2024 10:49:10 GMT -5
The Brock Lesnar character is fine where he is. I can't rate him higher from a purely onscreen standpoint due to that lame ass Suplex City Era.
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 4, 2024 10:52:42 GMT -5
We are equating him to a man who killed his family now? Yes. Yes, we are. In many quarters, rapists and molesters are on par with even child murderers. Lesnar was one of those overpowered, overdominant, bullying types who got away with just about anything he wanted. With the allegations, _every_ aspect of his life is now under the microscope, including his relationship with Sable. He was an interruption to whatever creative good might have been allowed to shine. And now he's in the hatch with Vince. I don't think we need to talk about him anymore, do you? |
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Apr 4, 2024 10:55:10 GMT -5
I think Brock is rated just fine.
Most people acknowledge that he was an absolutely phenomenal athlete but who was pretty lazy and tended to coast with the same match formula over and over.
But that's all irrelevant because he's a piece of trash.
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Post by fallandpray on Apr 4, 2024 11:00:34 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned Brock is one of the greatest of all timd |
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 4, 2024 11:22:49 GMT -5
I put Brock in the Triple H category in that he had some surprisingly great matches, but many more moments and matches that were a chore to sit through.
He's like a band that has recorded some of your favorite songs you've ever heard, but when you go deep into their library, you can't find much else you like.
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Post by chazraps on Apr 4, 2024 11:45:04 GMT -5
Paul Heyman is a conman who will say whatever makes him and everything he's attached to better than it is and anything good that happens he can tangentially associate himself with is entirely because of his genius. Brock is a piece of shit. That is where the conversation ends. Like Benoit before him, his ability in the ring is irrelevant. We are equating him to a man who killed his family now? Yeah, why not? Maliciously ruining lives is maliciously ruining lives. |
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 4, 2024 12:16:56 GMT -5
Brock's first run and body of work is really, really good.
His second, eh, the highs were great, but when he left his working boots in the locker room the lows were a chore to watch.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 4, 2024 12:23:14 GMT -5
Brock actively participated in Vince McMahon's crimes.
I guess one could argue that Vince had a hand in grooming Brock into the man who did so, as Brock was very young when he entered WWE, but he also has bragged about what a grotesque person he was as a child, so that excuse can only go so far.
Paul Heyman's opinion on the fictional wrestling character, shouldn't be discussed anywhere but an episode of Dark Side of the Ring, and only for the sake of context.
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Post by Doo Doo is a Ratings Expert on Apr 4, 2024 12:53:15 GMT -5
Brock's obviously one of the most gifted athletes to ever do this, but I feel he's closer to being overrated than underrated. Too many half assed performances IMO.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 4, 2024 12:54:07 GMT -5
Brock had a ton of raw talent, but there a ton of guys I'd much rather watch matches of than him. His Suplex City era was a f***ing drag.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 4, 2024 14:11:06 GMT -5
This was so obviously a job to Bork that I could never get that into him.
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