Internet Revisionist History

[James Fabiano]

I think we had a thread like this awhile back for just wrestling. This focuses on things the internet told you to believe, and so it became fact because of that?

I still say the biggest victims are Scrappy-Doo and the Ewoks. One actually was there when the franchise he belonged to lasted another 7 years initially (aha, would that make Scooby and Scrappy-Doo a non-wrestling version of new gimmicks that added life to something? I smell a second spinoff...)

The Ewoks I had no idea were hated until, well, I was online for a couple years. I actually think I started catching wind of this during/post-prequel time for Star Wars too.

So what other things do you feel Internet Revisionist History was unkind to?

[karl100589]

Rocky V is the worst film in the franchise, but not the devil spawn the internet makes it out to be. Given how ridiculous IV was a back to basics approach was needed and I like the dynamic of Rocky becoming so fixated with his adopted son (Gunn) he abandons his real son.

[Kalmia]

You could make a whole thread just out of Star Wars examples.

[James Fabiano]

Oh make no mistake, it sucked to high heaven, but I LIKED watching Superman IV before I found out it was DA DEVIL.

Supergirl probably fits here too.

[salz4life]

Apr 15, 2024 14:36:33 GMT -5 karl100589 said:

Rocky V is the worst film in the franchise, but not the devil spawn the internet makes it out to be. Given how ridiculous IV was a back to basics approach was needed and I like the dynamic of Rocky becoming so fixated with his adopted son (Gunn) he abandons his real son.

Yeah.... I'm by no means a fan of it, but it isn't the worst movie ever made, which is what some people (no one in here) seem to want to believe.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Apr 15, 2024 15:42:10 GMT -5 salz4life said:

Apr 15, 2024 14:36:33 GMT -5 karl100589 said:

Rocky V is the worst film in the franchise, but not the devil spawn the internet makes it out to be. Given how ridiculous IV was a back to basics approach was needed and I like the dynamic of Rocky becoming so fixated with his adopted son (Gunn) he abandons his real son.

Yeah.... I'm by no means a fan of it, but it isn't the worst movie ever made, which is what some people (no one in here) seem to want to believe.

I binged them in the last couple of years, I can see why they got the reaction they did.

Rocky grew more superhero like and cartoonish with every movie, then this sudden Swerve into the most depressing of them all.

But I liked 5 more than 4. 5 was an actual movie not a Montage for a start, not perfect but a lot of good stuff that could have been presented better.

[Bo Rida]

The American centric view of retro gaming. The NES may have saved things over there but the 8 bit computers were popular elsewhere, as was the Amiga and various others later.
They also had cheap games, people don't mention them when trying to justify modern game costs by comparing them to nes carts.

I think some Ewok hate was always there though, just more of a minority opinion.

[Fundertaker]

Zelda cycle basically (kinda applies to Final Fantasy now as well), where every game is the greatest, the worst, underapreciated and a forgotten classic at the different times by the internet, each game rotating on the 4 places of the cycle until it's time to jump off for a bit and another comes in.

[BorneAgain]

Apr 15, 2024 16:23:45 GMT -5 Bo Rida said:

The American centric view of retro gaming. The NES may have saved things over there but the 8 bit computers were popular elsewhere, as was the Amiga and various others later.
They also had cheap games, people don't mention them when trying to justify modern game costs by comparing them to nes carts.

Gaming in general has so many "common knowledge" points that more recent historians have looked into as being questionable. The causes/nuances/and results of the North American Video Game Crash are better understood as time goes on, the complex relationship between Sega of America with Sega of Japan is only now getting re-examined, and the cultural legacy of the 8 bit computer scene in Europe, the TecToy in Brazil, and the earliest arcade games are still not entirely understood or appreciated in the present.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Judging by the Internet no human being has ever ate at McDonald’s since 1967 or ever watched The Big Bang Theory voluntarily.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Apr 15, 2024 19:02:48 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Judging by the Internet no human being has ever ate at McDonald’s since 1967 or ever watched The Big Bang Theory voluntarily.

I did both over the weekend. Please don't tell Internet.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Apr 15, 2024 18:37:18 GMT -5 Fundertaker said:

Zelda cycle basically (kinda applies to Final Fantasy now as well), where every game is the greatest, the worst, underapreciated and a forgotten classic at the different times by the internet, each game rotating on the 4 places of the cycle until it's time to jump off for a bit and another comes in.

In general I find that whole concept just utterly exhausting and eyerolling because it basically means you can't criticize any game in the series for anything without people going, "That doesn't count because this other game exists."

[carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army)]

I'm not sure I understand a lot of these examples. Like, Superman IV was reviled (and the production was famously a huge disaster) long before the internet was commonly used. And people who grew up with the original Scooby Doo always hated Scrappy, even if younger kids at the time tolerated or liked Scrappy. The internet doesn't really seem relevant.

[KingPooper]

The Ewoks ruled and Scrappy was a bad ass. These are hills I am willing to die on.

[Ryback on a Pole!]

Nickelback are shit and the worst band ever


Nah, Nickelback are a decent band. Not great, but decent. They have a few songs on my Spotify playlist. I think much of the hate comes from the fact Chad Kroeger just looked an absolute chode.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

'All Nickelback songs sound the same and they're untalented hacks!' *Nickelback put out an album showing range, in-between Chad writing and producing decidedly un Nickelback songs for others, which nobody buys* 'All Nickelback songs sound the same and they're untalented hacks!'

[Ryback on a Pole!]

Apr 16, 2024 2:51:32 GMT -5 The Dark Order Inferno said:

'All Nickelback songs sound the same and they're untalented hacks!'

Oddly enough, that same argument could easily be applied to other bands who somehow get a pass from the same people who insult Nickelback. Foo Fighters have songs that many sound very similar. Same as Motorhead. Yet nobody says they suck or are the worst band ever.

I'm sure Nickelback bashing is because it's cool to do so and because Chad Kroeger isn't cool.

[salz4life]

Apr 15, 2024 16:00:10 GMT -5 Futureraven: Beelzebruv said:

Apr 15, 2024 15:42:10 GMT -5 salz4life said:

Yeah.... I'm by no means a fan of it, but it isn't the worst movie ever made, which is what some people (no one in here) seem to want to believe.

I binged them in the last couple of years, I can see why they got the reaction they did.

Rocky grew more superhero like and cartoonish with every movie, then this sudden Swerve into the most depressing of them all.

But I liked 5 more than 4. 5 was an actual movie not a Montage for a start, not perfect but a lot of good stuff that could have been presented better.

4 really is kind of bad... but for a Cold War/US vs. USSR movie, I will still enjoy it for the sort of historical aspect (if that makes any sense). Creed dying is kind of a tentpole event for the franchise as well.

[salz4life]

Apr 16, 2024 1:30:09 GMT -5 Ryback on a Pole! said:

Nickelback are shit and the worst band ever


Nah, Nickelback are a decent band. Not great, but decent. They have a few songs on my Spotify playlist. I think much of the hate comes from the fact Chad Kroeger just looked an absolute chode.

Yeah, my annoyance for Nickelback is strictly because of how often You Remind Me was played by the radio stations in my area. It felt like it was the only song being played every time I was in the car. I get it, the song was (and still is) catchy... but it got to the point where I hated the band because of it and in hindsight, it probably wasn't fair.

[James Fabiano]

Apr 15, 2024 20:58:11 GMT -5 carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) said:

I'm not sure I understand a lot of these examples. Like, Superman IV was reviled (and the production was famously a huge disaster) long before the internet was commonly used. And people who grew up with the original Scooby Doo always hated Scrappy, even if younger kids at the time tolerated or liked Scrappy. The internet doesn't really seem relevant.

Do we know that for sure though? Or did the net bring it to light?

I can see people who actually became young adults/adults since 1969 feeling like that, if that's what you meant. People who were a bit younger? I would chalk that up to denial. Kinda like if you watched wrestling as a pre teen and insist you were always waiting for Macho Man to beat Hogan.