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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 29, 2024 8:26:34 GMT -5
Or..."Ode to Character Development?" (Insert that confusing bumper with Bullwinkle and Rocky being struck by lightning then becoming flowers here)
I've got two patron saintesses for this trope: Valencia from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and Lexy from Chucky.
The former was Josh's bitchy, carb-hating, yoga instructor girlfriend who was (IMO) getting in the way of him and Rebecca. After her fall in S2 and subsequent joining Rebecca's "girl group," she became so much more likable.
I was actually rooting for Chucky against Lexy in Season 1. For obvious reasons, if you watched the show. She started out as a mean girl, but the show has done a good job of humanizing her since, and making her part of the surrogate family with Jake and Devon.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 29, 2024 8:32:19 GMT -5
Rachel from Suits. Wasn't the biggest fan of her in season 1, she was pretty much there just to be the love interest and look great. As the show went on they fleshed her out more, and had her and Louis become friends. That last thing was one of the smartest decisions that show made.
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Post by Soultastic on Apr 29, 2024 8:33:02 GMT -5
Anakin Skywalker thanks to The Clone Wars, though mostly because he's pretty much an entirely different character.
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 29, 2024 11:34:27 GMT -5
Nelson Van Alden on Boardwalk Empire.
He went from a cliche character early on, to probably the only reason why I stuck around watching in the later seasons. Of course, HBO being HBO decided to off his character with little build up and decidedly random, instead of completing the full arc. He was probably the only character who I would have liked to have survived...but nope.
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Post by john84 on Apr 29, 2024 11:39:07 GMT -5
Clary from Shadow Hunters, thought she was the weakest link in the first two seasons but thought she was a lot better in the final season.
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 29, 2024 11:55:17 GMT -5
Flash from Justice League (unlimited). At first I found him annoying, but after Divided We Fall and especially Flash and Substance (I love the scene with him and Trickster) I softened on him and now he's one of my fav characters in the show.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 29, 2024 11:57:43 GMT -5
Ahsoka Tano. Thought she was really annoying in the Clone Wars movie and season 1, but I grew to really like her. She became a favorite by the end of Clone Wars and during Rebels.
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Post by john84 on Apr 29, 2024 12:01:32 GMT -5
Just thought of a couple of others
- Juliette from Grimm. Wasn't a big fan of hers in season 1 or 2 but I warmed to her in season 3
- Hodges from C.S.I.. Don't know when the positive thing started but after a while his character grew on me from me finding him just plain annoying at first.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 29, 2024 12:53:46 GMT -5
Or..."Ode to Character Development?" (Insert that confusing bumper with Bullwinkle and Rocky being struck by lightning then becoming flowers here) I've got two patron saintesses for this trope: Valencia from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and Lexy from Chucky. The former was Josh's bitchy, carb-hating, yoga instructor girlfriend who was (IMO) getting in the way of him and Rebecca. After her fall in S2 and subsequent joining Rebecca's "girl group," she became so much more likable. I was actually rooting for Chucky against Lexy in Season 1. For obvious reasons, if you watched the show. She started out as a mean girl, but the show has done a good job of humanizing her since, and making her part of the surrogate family with Jake and Devon. Agree on Valencia. The way I always thought about her though was that at first we were seeing her through Rebeccas eyes, only her negative qualities. And that Josh brought out her negative side toO, him not always being the best person. |
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Apr 29, 2024 13:09:10 GMT -5
Wesley in Buffy/Angel. Started very much as this stick in the ass, by the books Watcher. Eventually evolved into probably the deepest character in either show.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 29, 2024 15:26:03 GMT -5
Demitri in Cobra Kai. He had one note: socially awkward nerd who pisses everyone off with his motormouth. While he kept that aspect, it was toned down and he actually got some confidence and skill, and when he won the boys’ side of the All Valley, you actually wanted to root for him.
Correction: it was Hawk who won, but Demitri made the semis, and looked good in the process.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Apr 29, 2024 16:00:28 GMT -5
Ahsoka Tano. Thought she was really annoying in the Clone Wars movie and season 1, but I grew to really like her. She became a favorite by the end of Clone Wars and during Rebels. Ahsoka when she first appeared in Clone Wars: "oh god no" Ahsoka when she first appeared in Rebels: "oh hell yeah!" |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 29, 2024 16:42:10 GMT -5
Demitri in Cobra Kai. He had one note: socially awkward nerd who pisses everyone off with his motormouth. While he kept that aspect, it was toned down and he actually got some confidence and skill, and when he won the boys’ side of the All Valley, you actually wanted to root for him. Helps that he is the embodiment of Miyagi's teachings. He doesn't want to fight, always tries to talk his way out of fighting, will try to walk or run away from fighting, tries to defend people not as good as him (watch the Christmas brawl), will forgive people, and will only fight if there's no choice |
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Post by chrom on Apr 29, 2024 16:49:12 GMT -5
Jar Jar and The Gungans in The Clone Wars series
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 29, 2024 16:50:08 GMT -5
Nelson Van Alden on Boardwalk Empire. He went from a cliche character early on, to probably the only reason why I stuck around watching in the later seasons. Of course, HBO being HBO decided to off his character with little build up and decidedly random, instead of completing the full arc. He was probably the only character who I would have liked to have survived...but nope. On a similar note, Richard Harrow for me went from a curious side character to a dark horse star of the show by seasons three and four. |
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Post by stevescorpio on Apr 29, 2024 17:43:55 GMT -5
Nancy Wheeler (Stranger Things)
I still don't love her with Jonathan, but Nancy has really shown herself to be the smartest one of the group. I also really dug how she became friends with Robin in season 4.
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Post by schma on Apr 29, 2024 20:58:46 GMT -5
Cordelia in Buffy/Angel started as a one dimensional mean girl meant to be annoying. However, they developed her character and she actually became fantastic.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 30, 2024 9:04:22 GMT -5
Anakin Skywalker thanks to The Clone Wars, though mostly because he's pretty much an entirely different character. Obi-Wan for Hayden Christensen's version. On the Disney+ topic, Wandavision making me like Darcy. I used to be annoyed by her for some reason in the Thor movies. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 30, 2024 9:05:49 GMT -5
Or..."Ode to Character Development?" (Insert that confusing bumper with Bullwinkle and Rocky being struck by lightning then becoming flowers here) I've got two patron saintesses for this trope: Valencia from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and Lexy from Chucky. The former was Josh's bitchy, carb-hating, yoga instructor girlfriend who was (IMO) getting in the way of him and Rebecca. After her fall in S2 and subsequent joining Rebecca's "girl group," she became so much more likable. I was actually rooting for Chucky against Lexy in Season 1. For obvious reasons, if you watched the show. She started out as a mean girl, but the show has done a good job of humanizing her since, and making her part of the surrogate family with Jake and Devon. Agree on Valencia. The way I always thought about her though was that at first we were seeing her through Rebeccas eyes, only her negative qualities. And that Josh brought out her negative side toO, him not always being the best person. Do you think that this is why Josh as the series went on starts to seem dumber? Because Rebecca no longer sees him as an ideal? |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 30, 2024 9:56:48 GMT -5
Agree on Valencia. The way I always thought about her though was that at first we were seeing her through Rebeccas eyes, only her negative qualities. And that Josh brought out her negative side toO, him not always being the best person. Do you think that this is why Josh as the series went on starts to seem dumber? Because Rebecca no longer sees him as an ideal? Yep. Since How I Met Your Mother I have become a big fan of the idea of the unreliable narrator. For example the apartment in that show was huge. But it was actually much smaller and only seemed huge for NY. So first season Valencia as a shallow bitch and Josh a dream guy because they were Rebeccas rival and love interest. Once the situation changed we saw more depth from them, or even less depth in Joshs case as the image was shattered and he may seem even worse than normal because of that. |
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