Venti
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Post by Venti on May 6, 2024 17:11:07 GMT -5
As a certified SRS hater, seeing him get mad is hilarious to me
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Post by Starshine on May 6, 2024 19:22:59 GMT -5
What I keep seeing in this thread.... Now granted he dodges questions no worse than TK so I don't see the point in worrying about it... TK at least has some skills here. Trips seemingly has nothing, and really needs to take a course on how to do PR. IMO, the main problem on both ends are that 99% of the questions they get are complete ass. It's embarrassing to hear some of the "journalists" who get credentialed in who do nothing with their time but either kiss ass, or ask useless kayfabe questions.
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Johnny Flamingo
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on May 6, 2024 21:00:54 GMT -5
What I keep seeing in this thread.... Now granted he dodges questions no worse than TK so I don't see the point in worrying about it... TK at least has some skills here. Trips seemingly has nothing, and really needs to take a course on how to do PR. IMO, the main problem on both ends are that 99% of the questions they get are complete ass. It's embarrassing to hear some of the "journalists" who get credentialed in who do nothing with their time but either kiss ass, or ask useless kayfabe questions. Thing is most sports journalist work for a major company (ESPN, AP, Fox Sports, network). If they piss if a league there is always something to fall back on. If a wrestling journalist gets shut out of WWE or AEW they have nothing left. As such they aren’t going to risk losing their connections.
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on May 6, 2024 21:05:31 GMT -5
What I keep seeing in this thread.... Now granted he dodges questions no worse than TK so I don't see the point in worrying about it... TK at least has some skills here. Trips seemingly has nothing, and really needs to take a course on how to do PR. IMO, the main problem on both ends are that 99% of the questions they get are complete ass. It's embarrassing to hear some of the "journalists" who get credentialed in who do nothing with their time but either kiss ass, or ask useless kayfabe questions. The WWE will pull their credentials if they don't like what they ask... Also the WWE shitting on news sources isn't surprising. Since all that shit happened with Vince they desperately want to control all narratives about the company.
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Post by Starshine on May 6, 2024 21:18:39 GMT -5
Also worth noting most of these guys are just aggregators, they typically copy/paste other people's work and then more often than than not "forget" to properly source it. So yeah, to be fair we shouldn't expect useless f***sticks to produce anything of substance.
But now I'm also hearing the guy who asked Trips about the Gulak situation has been getting shit on by the PWI and Fightful for doing actual work. Media literacy is long dead in pro wrestling.
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on May 6, 2024 21:21:41 GMT -5
Also worth noting most of these guys are just aggregators, they typically copy/paste other people's work and then more often than than not "forget" to properly source it. So yeah, to be fair we shouldn't expect useless f***sticks to produce anything of substance. But now I'm also hearing the guy who asked Trips about the Gulak situation has been getting shit on by the PWI and Fightful for doing actual work. Media literacy is long dead in pro wrestling. Of course he is, how dare he make them look bad and draw the ire of WWE. These guys don't want to break stories they want a close relationship with the market leader.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on May 6, 2024 21:36:29 GMT -5
Back issues of Mad Magazine and Drunk Chicks Monthly are NOT credible sources.
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jm
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Post by jm on May 6, 2024 23:11:54 GMT -5
But now I'm also hearing the guy who asked Trips about the Gulak situation has been getting shit on by the PWI and Fightful for doing actual work. Media literacy is long dead in pro wrestling. The wrestling media today is full of nothing but groveling kiss-ass cowards. These aren't news people; they are business people who want their access to WWE by any means necessary. And if that means attacking someone for asking PaPa H a legitimate question, then so be it. The wrestling media today makes me want to vomit.
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Post by eJm on May 7, 2024 5:25:07 GMT -5
I honestly thought some of you were overreacting about the tweets to the French reporter. I saw the deleted Mike Johnson tweet and What? Like, what?
And I need to stress again, HHH wasn't even asked that hard a question; "Was Drew Gulak fired in relation to Ronda's accusations?" is a question that is answered that, at worst, is answered with "We cannot go into that right now" and he didn't even do that, just answer a question not even asked.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 7, 2024 9:15:36 GMT -5
WWE wants to treat journalism the same way the video game industry does. They don't want actual journalists, they just want shills who will talk about how great they are and give them free advertising so they don't lose "access" (which in itself becomes useless if the only people who have it are shills).
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Post by joeiscool on May 7, 2024 9:26:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure how credible either site really is but I couldn't imagine using them as a source IRL when talking to a wrestler or promoter. It would feel like citing Wendy Williams to a celebrity...
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 7, 2024 9:32:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure how credible either site really is but I couldn't imagine using them as a source IRL when talking to a wrestler or promoter. It would feel like citing Wendy Williams to a celebrity... Say what you will about this business but SRS and Mike Johnson are far and away two of its most credible journalists. Hunter is just having a hissy fit because someone asked him a hard question and daddy Nick told him nobody would do that
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Post by eJm on May 7, 2024 9:55:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure how credible either site really is but I couldn't imagine using them as a source IRL when talking to a wrestler or promoter. It would feel like citing Wendy Williams to a celebrity... Say what you will about this business but SRS and Mike Johnson are far and away two of its most credible journalists. Hunter is just having a hissy fit because someone asked him a hard question and daddy Nick told him nobody would do that Like, a lot of the recent stories were either broken by Fightful, PWInsider or Wrestling Observer. The only things in wrestling that weren't clarified by those three in the last 5 years you can count on one hand (and honestly, it's the stuff you can argue they're not great with like stories related to the Vince NDAs and WWE lawsuits). If anything, the issue is that, according to Voices of Wrestling, people grumbled when Lucas Charpiot asked the question at all. Like, you're in a room asking questions to the head of creative and basically the head of talent relations about a guy who was written off TV and reported to be released not long after an interview where a former talent accused him of what can be lightly put as inappropriate behavior. When else are you going to have a chance to answer that as a question and to who?
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Post by tagteammatchplaya on May 7, 2024 10:30:37 GMT -5
Is HHH a good PR guy? no, but I don't understand why people want HHH to apologize for this, "Triple H doesn't like the guy who leaks the plans for literally all of his shows? how dare him!!!"
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Post by eJm on May 7, 2024 10:43:49 GMT -5
Is HHH a good PR guy? no, but I don't understand why people want HHH to apologize for this, "Triple H doesn't like the guy who leaks the plans for literally all of his shows? how dare him!!!" First off, nobody in Fightful or PWInsider leaks the plans, someone in the company does. Whether intentionally or otherwise (and there are times you can absolutely argue it was intentional) so it's something HHH should sort out if he's that concerned about it. Second, if he's that concerned about punishing them, stop inviting them to press events. Don't have Denise Salcedo appear on The Bump or Pre-Shows because of her associations in the past with Fightful and Wrestling Observer, don't let Sean Ross Sapp be on your press lines when you have shows he can travel to, don't give press interviews and exclusives to PWI, Fightful and WO, cut them all off entirely. But he won't because the company knows they can benefit from the connection. It's why no entertainment studio has cut off Variety and Hollywood Reporter from junkets and press screenings because they're as much of a way to get stories out there as anything else.
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Post by tagteammatchplaya on May 7, 2024 10:54:39 GMT -5
Is HHH a good PR guy? no, but I don't understand why people want HHH to apologize for this, "Triple H doesn't like the guy who leaks the plans for literally all of his shows? how dare him!!!" First off, nobody in Fightful or PWInsider leaks the plans, someone in the company does. Whether intentionally or otherwise (and there are times you can absolutely argue it was intentional) so it's something HHH should sort out if he's that concerned about it. Second, if he's that concerned about punishing them, stop inviting them to press events. Don't have Denise Salcedo appear on The Bump or Pre-Shows because of her associations in the past with Fightful and Wrestling Observer, don't let Sean Ross Sapp be on your press lines when you have shows he can travel to, don't give press interviews and exclusives to PWI, Fightful and WO, cut them all off entirely. But he won't because the company knows they can benefit from the connection. It's why no entertainment studio has cut off Variety and Hollywood Reporter from junkets and press screenings because they're as much of a way to get stories out there as anything else. "nobody in Fightful or PWInsider leaks the plans, someone in the company does" Okay, but then they post those said plans to Fightful Select, spoiling something that hasn't aired yet
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Post by eJm on May 7, 2024 11:01:35 GMT -5
"nobody in Fightful or PWInsider leaks the plans, someone in the company does" Okay, but then they post those said plans to Fightful Select Yes. Because that's what press organizations usually do with information they're given that they clarify through different sources. So, again, if HHH should be annoyed at anyone, it's the person leaking to them in the first place. Like, if HHH has such an issue with the press, don't do press conferences. Send Cody out there since he doesn't lash out when asked a slightly difficult question.
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Post by tagteammatchplaya on May 7, 2024 11:04:00 GMT -5
"nobody in Fightful or PWInsider leaks the plans, someone in the company does" Okay, but then they post those said plans to Fightful Select Yes. Because that's what press organizations usually do with information they're given that they clarify through different sources. So, again, if HHH should be annoyed at anyone, it's the person leaking to them in the first place. Yeah, i would be annoyed at that person too, but let's say if you made a TV Show, and someone posted the scripts he got from someone on the show before it airs, wouldn't you be upset at the person posted those scripts as well?
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on May 7, 2024 11:06:17 GMT -5
tagteammatchplaya Someone needs to ask him when he's going to bring Madcap Moss back.
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Zone Was Wrong
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on May 7, 2024 11:06:43 GMT -5
Fightful's reputation shouldn't be tied to SRS's response to trolls on his personal page. Fightful has a very accurate reputation that is only "marred" by them stating no one they talked to in WWE knew anything about Punk returning, which HHH even backed up by stating only a handful of people knew he was coming back and it was a very last minute thing. They've broken stories about a lot of stuff in the industry and have regular scoops all throughout. So yeah, I'd want some kind of apology if it sounded like the public figure of the top wrestling promotion in the world just questioned the validity of my news site. Especially if people already have a negative outlook on wrestling journalism as it is.
As weird as it sounds, one of the reasons I wanted to get into journalism in the first place was to report on nerdy things like wrestling or video games. So having a degree in journalism and seeing actual legit people like Fightful laughed or scolded for wanting WWE to apologize for the perceived slight against them annoys the hell out of me. A news organization thrives on views and subscriptions, and if their reputation is damaged by people like HHH, then potential subscribers will not want to hand over their money.
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