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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jan 21, 2007 22:38:12 GMT -5
Affleck's peformance in Hollywoodland wasn't that good. It's just the first time he hasnt mugged it up for the cameras in 6 years.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 21, 2007 22:39:51 GMT -5
I'll check out Hollywoodland.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jan 21, 2007 23:06:34 GMT -5
Firstly, DareDevil blew dog. It's a piece of crap, build around music video sequences and crappy special effects. - DareDevil pushes a guy onto traintracks and lets him die? WTF? That's totally out of character. - Matt Murdock and Elektra jump around on the playground in their stupid foreplay SM relationship. Hello, Matty. You're supposed to conceal the fact that you're a superhero, not draw attention to it, by jumoing around despite the fact that YOU ARE BLIND!! - Colin Farell as Bulleye. Less "eye", more like "hit". - Terrible, horrible, moronic ending: Okay, DareDevil is wounded, accused of murder and on the run. Yet he manages to beat Bulleye on the biggest f'n organ this side of a John Holmes movie and takes on Kingpin. He reveals his identity (yet again. Why can't he keep it a secret from anyone in this goddamn movie? What's next, a full page ad in the Daily Bugle, saying "Matt Murdock = DareDevil"?), he wins the battle, yet, despite killing a lowly thug in cold blood, lets the biggest crimelord who just orchestrated the murder of the love of his life, he lets him live?? Why?? It makes no sense. Making even less sense though, is the police arriving to arrest Kingpin, who's identity is a secret to the world at large, and the last thing we heard DareDevil was the wanted man and they had nothing to pin on Kingpin. What the hell happened? Bullseye squealed? He was thrown out of a 4th story window and through a car. It seems unlikely he just happened to spit out a testimony in the 30 minutes since DareDevil left him and went to duke it out with Ol' Wilson Fisk.
The above plus the fact that Jennifer Garner is not only freaky looking, she's also a terrible actress, made this a steaming pile of crap.
Ben Affleck was really great in "Hollywoodland" though.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 21, 2007 23:21:05 GMT -5
Truthifully, as an actor, I can't stand either of the above mentioned male actors.
I have yet to see Hollywoodland, but I'm not in a rush to. George Reeves was an aging man going through alcoholism and depression. Seeing Affleck in the trailers points out to me that they weren't even trying to show physically any part of his depression.
Plus, it didn't look like George Reeves in that he was actually acting. It looked like Affleck pretending to be upset about media following him, IE not acting.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 21, 2007 23:27:16 GMT -5
Firstly, DareDevil blew dog. It's a piece of crap, build around music video sequences and crappy special effects. - DareDevil pushes a guy onto traintracks and lets him die? WTF? That's totally out of character. - Matt Murdock and Elektra jump around on the playground in their stupid foreplay SM relationship. Hello, Matty. You're supposed to conceal the fact that you're a superhero, not draw attention to it, by jumoing around despite the fact that YOU ARE BLIND!! - Colin Farell as Bulleye. Less "eye", more like "hit". - Terrible, horrible, moronic ending: Okay, DareDevil is wounded, accused of murder and on the run. Yet he manages to beat Bulleye on the biggest f'n organ this side of a John Holmes movie and takes on Kingpin. He reveals his identity (yet again. Why can't he keep it a secret from anyone in this goddamn movie? What's next, a full page ad in the Daily Bugle, saying "Matt Murdock = DareDevil"?), he wins the battle, yet, despite killing a lowly thug in cold blood, lets the biggest crimelord who just orchestrated the murder of the love of his life, he lets him live?? Why?? It makes no sense. Making even less sense though, is the police arriving to arrest Kingpin, who's identity is a secret to the world at large, and the last thing we heard DareDevil was the wanted man and they had nothing to pin on Kingpin. What the hell happened? Bullseye squealed? He was thrown out of a 4th story window and through a car. It seems unlikely he just happened to spit out a testimony in the 30 minutes since DareDevil left him and went to duke it out with Ol' Wilson Fisk. The above plus the fact that Jennifer Garner is not only freaky looking, she's also a terrible actress, made this a steaming pile of crap. Ben Affleck was really great in "Hollywoodland" though. Most of that bothered me too, but the ending with the Kingpin is explained in the directors cut. There was a whole subplot with Matt and Foggy defending a former employee of the Kingpins, and through him they manage to get the evidence to take Kingpin down. The big problem with the regular cut was that the studio saw more potential with an Elektra spinoff (and we see how bad that was, makes DD look like oscar material) and forced more Elektra footage into the film, as well as cutting out material important to the plot.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jan 21, 2007 23:28:17 GMT -5
Truthifully, as an actor, I can't stand either of the above mentioned male actors. I have yet to see Hollywoodland, but I'm not in a rush to. George Reeves was an aging man going through alcoholism and depression. Seeing Affleck in the trailers points out to me that they weren't even trying to show physically any part of his depression. Plus, it didn't look like George Reeves in that he was actually acting. It looked like Affleck pretending to be upset about media following him, IE not acting. Watch it. He goes through the rise, high, decline and fall of Reeves and his career and takes you through every emotion along the way. It's a great performance. And I'm no Ben Affleck fan by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 21, 2007 23:30:31 GMT -5
Truthifully, as an actor, I can't stand either of the above mentioned male actors. I have yet to see Hollywoodland, but I'm not in a rush to. George Reeves was an aging man going through alcoholism and depression. Seeing Affleck in the trailers points out to me that they weren't even trying to show physically any part of his depression. Plus, it didn't look like George Reeves in that he was actually acting. It looked like Affleck pretending to be upset about media following him, IE not acting. Watch it. He goes through the rise, high, decline and fall of Reeves and his career and takes you through every emotion along the way. It's a great performance. And I'm no Ben Affleck fan by any stretch of the imagination. Eh, I'll reserve the rest of my judgement then. But, sadly, I'm usually right about previews & trailers.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jan 21, 2007 23:35:50 GMT -5
Watch it. He goes through the rise, high, decline and fall of Reeves and his career and takes you through every emotion along the way. It's a great performance. And I'm no Ben Affleck fan by any stretch of the imagination. Eh, I'll reserve the rest of my judgement then. But, sadly, I'm usually right about previews & trailers. Well, of course you are if you make your mind up from the trailer alone. Didn't see the trailer for Hollywoodland, just heard good things and went to see it. Combined two great things I love: A mystery and an intimate portrait. Great movie.
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Post by Tonto Goldstein on Jan 21, 2007 23:40:33 GMT -5
Amen, brother! While I have yet to see Hollywoodland (will once the dvd hits, it'll be a part of my Affleck collection), from what little clips and things I've seen, the guy certainly earned his stride back with it. But to be honest, I don't think I've ever been disappointed in any film Ben has been in. Well, maybe, Boiler Room, but that was more of a cameo type of thing. You kidding me? Boiler Room was awesome! The guy has been in way worse crap, like Reindeer Games and Gigli.
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Post by Rorschach on Jan 21, 2007 23:40:36 GMT -5
Firstly, DareDevil blew dog. It's a piece of crap, build around music video sequences and crappy special effects. - DareDevil pushes a guy onto traintracks and lets him die? WTF? That's totally out of character. - Matt Murdock and Elektra jump around on the playground in their stupid foreplay SM relationship. Hello, Matty. You're supposed to conceal the fact that you're a superhero, not draw attention to it, by jumoing around despite the fact that YOU ARE BLIND!! - Colin Farell as Bulleye. Less "eye", more like "hit". - Terrible, horrible, moronic ending: Okay, DareDevil is wounded, accused of murder and on the run. Yet he manages to beat Bulleye on the biggest f'n organ this side of a John Holmes movie and takes on Kingpin. He reveals his identity (yet again. Why can't he keep it a secret from anyone in this goddamn movie? What's next, a full page ad in the Daily Bugle, saying "Matt Murdock = DareDevil"?), he wins the battle, yet, despite killing a lowly thug in cold blood, lets the biggest crimelord who just orchestrated the murder of the love of his life, he lets him live?? Why?? It makes no sense. Making even less sense though, is the police arriving to arrest Kingpin, who's identity is a secret to the world at large, and the last thing we heard DareDevil was the wanted man and they had nothing to pin on Kingpin. What the hell happened? Bullseye squealed? He was thrown out of a 4th story window and through a car. It seems unlikely he just happened to spit out a testimony in the 30 minutes since DareDevil left him and went to duke it out with Ol' Wilson Fisk. The above plus the fact that Jennifer Garner is not only freaky looking, she's also a terrible actress, made this a steaming pile of crap. Ben Affleck was really great in "Hollywoodland" though. Eh. I liked Colin Farrell as Bullseye. He wasn't the problem for me. You pretty much nailed the real stuff that bothered me in your other points, though.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jan 21, 2007 23:44:00 GMT -5
Firstly, DareDevil blew dog. It's a piece of crap, build around music video sequences and crappy special effects. - DareDevil pushes a guy onto traintracks and lets him die? WTF? That's totally out of character. - Matt Murdock and Elektra jump around on the playground in their stupid foreplay SM relationship. Hello, Matty. You're supposed to conceal the fact that you're a superhero, not draw attention to it, by jumoing around despite the fact that YOU ARE BLIND!! - Colin Farell as Bulleye. Less "eye", more like "hit". - Terrible, horrible, moronic ending: Okay, DareDevil is wounded, accused of murder and on the run. Yet he manages to beat Bulleye on the biggest f'n organ this side of a John Holmes movie and takes on Kingpin. He reveals his identity (yet again. Why can't he keep it a secret from anyone in this goddamn movie? What's next, a full page ad in the Daily Bugle, saying "Matt Murdock = DareDevil"?), he wins the battle, yet, despite killing a lowly thug in cold blood, lets the biggest crimelord who just orchestrated the murder of the love of his life, he lets him live?? Why?? It makes no sense. Making even less sense though, is the police arriving to arrest Kingpin, who's identity is a secret to the world at large, and the last thing we heard DareDevil was the wanted man and they had nothing to pin on Kingpin. What the hell happened? Bullseye squealed? He was thrown out of a 4th story window and through a car. It seems unlikely he just happened to spit out a testimony in the 30 minutes since DareDevil left him and went to duke it out with Ol' Wilson Fisk. The above plus the fact that Jennifer Garner is not only freaky looking, she's also a terrible actress, made this a steaming pile of crap. Ben Affleck was really great in "Hollywoodland" though. Eh. I liked Colin Farrell as Bullseye. He wasn't the problem for me. You pretty much nailed the real stuff that bothered me in your other points, though. I hated Farrell's horrible overacting and combined with "Minority Report" I now can't stand the guy or anything he's in.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Jan 21, 2007 23:46:00 GMT -5
You kidding me? Boiler Room was awesome! The guy has been in way worse crap, like Reindeer Games and Gigli. Guess I need to go back to Boiler Room, been a loooong time since I've last viewed it. So, perheps you're right. For Reindeer Games, I look at it more of a Gary Sinise/Charlize Theron vehicle, with Affleck sprinked in through out. Not the best, but decent. And I've gone on far too long that Gigli is one of my all-time favorite movies. I'd put it right up there with Shawshank, Kane and Goodfellas.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Jan 21, 2007 23:48:37 GMT -5
I hated Farrell's horrible overacting and combined with "Minority Report" I now can't stand the guy or anything he's in. Ah, come on now, D. Even though it was directed by everyone's favorite target (Joel Schumacher), Tigerland is a darn good film.
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Post by Rorschach on Jan 21, 2007 23:51:48 GMT -5
Eh. I liked Colin Farrell as Bullseye. He wasn't the problem for me. You pretty much nailed the real stuff that bothered me in your other points, though. I hated Farrell's horrible overacting and combined with "Minority Report" I now can't stand the guy or anything he's in. Farrell was overacting? Dude, Bullseye is supposed to be over the top. I thought he was ok in the role. Who would you rather have had?
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Post by DSR on Jan 21, 2007 23:56:40 GMT -5
I did think Colin Farrell looked sorta corny. I mean, the bald head and bullseye on his forehead were just weird. Beyond that, I didn't have a problem with him in the role.
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Post by Rorschach on Jan 21, 2007 23:59:12 GMT -5
I did think Colin Farrell felt sorta corny in that role. I mean, the bald head and bullseye on his forehead were just weird. Beyond that, I didn't have a problem with him in the role. Well, yeah, THAT they could have changed. But as you said, I had no problem with him as Bullseye in and of itself.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jan 22, 2007 0:08:22 GMT -5
I hated Farrell's horrible overacting and combined with "Minority Report" I now can't stand the guy or anything he's in. Ah, come on now, D. Even though it was directed by everyone's favorite target (Joel Schumacher), Tigerland is a darn good film. The combination of Schumacher and Farrell does not make me want to see that particular movie.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jan 22, 2007 0:10:18 GMT -5
I hated Farrell's horrible overacting and combined with "Minority Report" I now can't stand the guy or anything he's in. Farrell was overacting? Dude, Bullseye is supposed to be over the top. I thought he was ok in the role. Who would you rather have had? Bullseye may be over the top, but he's not supposed to be a guy who slurps his breath and spews out every line like he's Jim Carrey on crack. I'd rather have had anybody. Maybe Paul Bettany. But hell, the movie blew dog, so Farrell fit in perfectly.
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Post by superfoe on Jan 22, 2007 0:26:51 GMT -5
I hated Farrell's horrible overacting and combined with "Minority Report" I now can't stand the guy or anything he's in. What about Phonebooth. I liked that one.
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jan 22, 2007 0:30:55 GMT -5
I hated Farrell's horrible overacting and combined with "Minority Report" I now can't stand the guy or anything he's in. What about Phonebooth. I liked that one. I didn't. It wasn't awful. Just bland and rather contrived.
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