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Post by rrm15 on May 21, 2007 20:48:47 GMT -5
This is something that's been on my mind recently, and the recent Lesnar thread just brought it up again: Can you really blame Brock Lesnar for leaving the WWE?
I mean, lets face it: In the course of two years, Brock Lesnar accomplished EVERYTHING there was to accomplish. A multiple time WWE champ, Royal Rumble winner, KOTR winner, and huge wins over THE top guys at the time. Rock, Hogan, Angle, Taker, Big Show....the list goes on. Short of a "dream match" with Triple H, there wasn't anything left for Brock.
In fact, after his first world title win, my only thought was "Well, now what? He's just gonna kind of go in circles for the rest of his career, and he's only 25!" I was as shocked as everyone else when he left, but I honestly can't blame him. He had a dream, he wasn't really enjoying his job no matter how good at it he was, so he went for it. And to me, that took guts.
Maybe it's just me, but I can't really be mad at Brock.
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Post by Zamiel on May 21, 2007 20:51:06 GMT -5
He could have been one of the greatest ever. Like you said look at what he accomplished and he was only 25. I would rather be one of the best in wrestling than a nobody in everything else.
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Post by robnoxious on May 21, 2007 20:51:58 GMT -5
I'm not mad at Brock per se but I do think he was a little like an ungrateful douchebag.
I mean look at the guy he was getting pushed to the moon at a time when no one else but Triple H was getting pushed
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on May 21, 2007 20:52:22 GMT -5
Yes, yes I can.
He only left after he had to do the job.
He screwed IWGP when he had to do the job.
I don't respect the man and I never will.
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Post by robnoxious on May 21, 2007 20:57:30 GMT -5
Yes, yes I can. He only left after he had to do the job. He screwed NJPW when he had to do the job. I don't respect the man and I never will. Changed my mind yeah I hate what Brock did. Come on all he was asked to do was put Eddie over (which he did ) but when he asked when he would get the belt back they said they didn't have any plans for him to regain it any time soon so he cried, took his ball and went home. This is what I've heard. |
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Post by wwerules60 on May 21, 2007 20:59:34 GMT -5
He was just given too much too early. He got a big ego, and decided it was easier not being on the road all year.
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Post by Swarm on May 21, 2007 21:02:37 GMT -5
You can never blame a man for chasing a dream. I was sad to see him go but I was proud of him. He did made it to Madden.
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Post by nostradumbass on May 21, 2007 21:05:13 GMT -5
Problem was, he accomplished all that way too early. I won't knock him for his ego or whatever, but I think he would have just hung around without much to do or worse yet, clutch that belt Triple H/Hogan style.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on May 21, 2007 21:09:17 GMT -5
That travel schedule was brutal. I honestly can't fault him for what he did. He passed up piles of money to keep his sanity. I'm surprised so many people CAN handle it, tbh.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 21, 2007 21:11:14 GMT -5
No, he wasn't happy being on the road 250+ days a year and being away from his family, thought he could make it at football so he left. People love to say that if you don't like it get the hell out so he did. More power to him.
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Post by Joekishi on May 21, 2007 21:15:03 GMT -5
he got out of wrestling because he wanted to trying something new, he didn't make it on his first try and he needed money so he went back to wrestling, his heart just isn't in it, so now he's going for something he thinks he can be good at.
PHysical competition and it uses his physical attributes and athletic ability to make money. he is actually competing, and not just putting on a show.
WWE came to him, he didn't go to WWE.
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Post by leemir on May 21, 2007 21:24:07 GMT -5
You can never blame a man for chasing a dream. I was sad to see him go but I was proud of him. He did made it to Madden. For once I agree with his guy, I still can't stand him for stealing the IWGP belt but thats a different story. For me my dream is to wrestle so if I did what he did I'd never have walked but but maybe his dream was to play pro football & he knew he's still young & didn't be 50 years old regretting he never went for it. |
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 21, 2007 22:02:17 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar was a waste of time. All the guys who worked hard, took bumps, and took beatings to get him over, all their pain and hard work was a waste.
Al Snow talked about how his body is messed up because of the bumps he took over the years. Raven called it the "bump card". You only have so many bumps in your career til your body shuts down, and that's not just in WWE, but in wrestling in general. All those wrestlers took those bumps and got hurt for Brock Lesnar, and when he left when he was on top, he spit in their face.
Brock Lesnar is the reason why the young guys get ribbed. They want to see if they crack, before the road cracks them. If they're really passionate about wrestling, they won't give a shit if the veterns are riding them hard. And once they prove that they want this, they won't get hammered hard by the veterns, and they will be the ones ribbing the younger guys. And the process continues.
Brock Lesnar went in, got an easy ride to the top, but the road cracked him. I do understand that he's human. But that still doesn't take away from the fact that he was the biggest waste of time in this decade.
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Post by erwxcalibur on May 21, 2007 22:06:36 GMT -5
This is something that's been on my mind recently, and the recent Lesnar thread just brought it up again: Can you really blame Brock Lesnar for leaving the WWE? I mean, lets face it: In the course of two years, Brock Lesnar accomplished EVERYTHING there was to accomplish. A multiple time WWE champ, Royal Rumble winner, KOTR winner, and huge wins over THE top guys at the time. Rock, Hogan, Angle, Taker, Big Show....the list goes on. Short of a "dream match" with Triple H, there wasn't anything left for Brock. In fact, after his first world title win, my only thought was "Well, now what? He's just gonna kind of go in circles for the rest of his career, and he's only 25!" I was as shocked as everyone else when he left, but I honestly can't blame him. He had a dream, he wasn't really enjoying his job no matter how good at it he was, so he went for it. And to me, that took guts. Maybe it's just me, but I can't really be mad at Brock. \ Theres no way you could be mad at someone for doing what they want to do. He may have been tired of the schedule, drama, etc...or a million other things. I don't know the whole truth about why he left. He may have felt he had enough money and could do something else, i just know that him on tv is better than not. |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on May 21, 2007 22:09:46 GMT -5
Brock milked the industry for all it was worth, then quit to do something that he had zero chance of success at. THEN did interviews putting down the business.
That's what pissed me off.
But that was years ago, I don't really care anymore.
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Post by Corporate H on May 21, 2007 22:15:53 GMT -5
I think he should have just never pursued pro wrestling if he was going to drop out in the future, but of course, he likely didn't know he'd want to leave in the near future.
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Post by bushwhacked on May 21, 2007 22:17:46 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar was a waste of time. All the guys who worked hard, took bumps, and took beatings to get him over, all their pain and hard work was a waste. Ave so many bumps in your career til your body shuts down, and that's not just in WWE, but in wrestling in general. All those wrestlers took those bumps and got hurt for Brock Lesnar, and when he left when he was on top, he spit in their face. how can you say that brock isnt willing to take bumps or work hard he is fighting MMA now where the "bumps" are much more intense and the training/skill required is equal or greater |
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Post by Spyke the Pacers Fan on May 21, 2007 22:44:59 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar was a waste of time. All the guys who worked hard, took bumps, and took beatings to get him over, all their pain and hard work was a waste. Ave so many bumps in your career til your body shuts down, and that's not just in WWE, but in wrestling in general. All those wrestlers took those bumps and got hurt for Brock Lesnar, and when he left when he was on top, he spit in their face. how can you say that brock isnt willing to take bumps or work hard he is fighting MMA now where the "bumps" are much more intense and the training/skill required is equal or greater He didn't say Brock wasn't willing to take bumps or work hard. He was saying Brock was "spitting in the faces" of the workers who took the bumps and worked hard to put him over. |
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Post by rrm15 on May 21, 2007 22:46:53 GMT -5
I think he should have just never pursued pro wrestling if he was going to drop out in the future, but of course, he likely didn't know he'd want to leave in the near future. If you were fresh out of college, and were a great athlete, and some offered you millions of dollars and guarenteed fame, would you take it? |
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Post by Corporate H on May 21, 2007 22:48:36 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar was a waste of time. All the guys who worked hard, took bumps, and took beatings to get him over, all their pain and hard work was a waste. Ave so many bumps in your career til your body shuts down, and that's not just in WWE, but in wrestling in general. All those wrestlers took those bumps and got hurt for Brock Lesnar, and when he left when he was on top, he spit in their face. how can you say that brock isnt willing to take bumps or work hard he is fighting MMA now where the "bumps" are much more intense and the training/skill required is equal or greater I would argue that MMA is actually safer than wrestling. Sure you're getting hit, but their hits are guaranteed and in some cases nearly every night of the week multiple times in a single match. EDIT: I think he should have just never pursued pro wrestling if he was going to drop out in the future, but of course, he likely didn't know he'd want to leave in the near future. If you were fresh out of college, and were a great athlete, and some offered you millions of dollars and guarenteed fame, would you take it? It would honestly depend on the offer. If it was professional wrestling and I didn't have the heart for it I likely wouldn't do it. |
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