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Post by jcdenton on May 9, 2007 14:12:15 GMT -5
LOUD NOISES!!! & ANGRY PEOPLE!!!
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Post by Swarm on May 9, 2007 14:13:07 GMT -5
This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on a wrestling message board. Are you seriously calling effing mind control? BAW GAWD VINCE DID IT AGAIN MIND CONTROL KANG! THE FANS ARE GOING CRAZY FOR CENA! BAW GAWD! STRAIGHT TO HAEELL! Give me a break. Are you even reading the same post as everyone else? Somehow I doubt it seriously. How can Vince MAKE anyone do anything? This dude is basically saying Vince is FORCING people to cheer Cena and you don't think that is the dumbest thing ever? I do.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on May 9, 2007 14:16:06 GMT -5
You are a huge Cena fan and you don't even know it...want proof? I came here what an hour ago and you, with all your hate for Cena, took time out of your life to provide me with you tube tapes to prove your point as to how much Cena sucks. So if he sucks so much, why do you spend so much time giving attention to him? Because you are a Cena fan. You love to hate him. People pay to cheer him and they pay to boo him. People take time out of their lives to defend him (like me) and others take time out of their life to bash him (you.) That's called being a fan even if that goes right over your head. Delusions of grandeur, much? it took me two seconds to find those videos on youtube. And about as much time to type up my responses to you. Oh, and by the way, I've never put a dime towards John Cena, either to see him win or lose. I don't know what you think it entails to make an argument against something, but I didn't exactly go out of my way and climb the Alps to "bash" Cena. I took five minutes out of my time to sit here and dissect the points you put forward. No wonder you think the guy is the end-all be-all of popularity. Not only do you count people who cheer for him as his fans, but you also include people who dislike him in that demographic. Are you even reading the same post as everyone else? Somehow I doubt it seriously. How can Vince MAKE anyone do anything? This dude is basically saying Vince is FORCING people to cheer Cena and you don't think that is the dumbest thing ever? I do. Did you READ what he said? He said Vince McMahon is shoving John Cena down the throats of the fans to try and force the crowd to cheer for him. Nowhere is there anything about magic mind control, that's all stuff YOU invented after the fact to try and pass of as HIS "dumb" idea. That's not dumb. That's absolutely spot-on. Dumb would be saying that everyone who chants "f*** You Cena!" is actually a gigantic John Cena fan.
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Post by Swarm on May 9, 2007 14:16:56 GMT -5
I understand your point...there are people who think Bryan Danielson is the best wrestler ever...those people are wrong Wasn't aware that an opinion could be incorrect, so thanks for that one. He makes enough to have not gone to WWE or TNA when at one point both showed interest in him. If you think bigger named indy workers don't make any money you're fooling yourself. You honestly expect me to believe you've ever watched a Bryan Danielson match when you say something that flat out incorrect? What the hell have you been watching? Or not watching more than likely in this case. ROH has not run in any type of venue like the one you're speaking of since it's earliest days in 2002 and veeeery early 2003 when they ran the rec center. Unless Japan, the Olympia in Liverpool, and the Manhattan Center are school gyms. Then by all means your point is made. I like Danielson. I do. He is probably my favorite non-pro wrestler ever. The only WWE match he ever had that I saw was vs. Cena and Cena went over and Danielson went back to the little leagues. Sometimes I wish he was in ECW but what can you do.
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Post by Swarm on May 9, 2007 14:18:58 GMT -5
You are a huge Cena fan and you don't even know it...want proof? I came here what an hour ago and you, with all your hate for Cena, took time out of your life to provide me with you tube tapes to prove your point as to how much Cena sucks. So if he sucks so much, why do you spend so much time giving attention to him? Because you are a Cena fan. You love to hate him. People pay to cheer him and they pay to boo him. People take time out of their lives to defend him (like me) and others take time out of their life to bash him (you.) That's called being a fan even if that goes right over your head. Delusions of grandeur, much? it took me two seconds to find those videos on youtube. And about as much time to type up my responses to you. Oh, and by the way, I've never put a dime towards John Cena, either to see him win or lose. I don't know what you think it entails to make an argument against something, but I didn't exactly go out of my way and climb the Alps to "bash" Cena. I took five minutes out of my time to sit here and dissect the points you put forward. No wonder you think the guy is the end-all be-all of popularity. Not only do you count people who cheer for him as his fans, but you also include people who dislike him in that demographic. See you're doing it again. I can go over to that T-shirt place and make you a Swarm shirt if you like. Let me know.
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Post by rrm15 on May 9, 2007 14:19:27 GMT -5
At the risk of getting burned by all the flaming goin on here...
Cena is a good wrestler. Really, he is. I mean, he's not HORRIBLE by any means. That being said, his in-ring moves are really basic and his fan base eats it up. H doesn't need to put on a technical wrestling clinic. In fact, if he did, a lot of his fans would probably lose interest.
As for marketibility: Swarm is right. He draws. In fact, whether we like it or not, John Cena is pretty much the face of professional wrestling right now. When the casual or non-fan thinks current wrestling, they think Cena. But that DOESN'T mean he's a good in-ring worker. And that's the only point every other poster is trying to make. If that doesn't matter to you, thats cool. But most of us like our wrestling matches to be more interesting than a lot of Cena'a matches.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on May 9, 2007 14:21:14 GMT -5
See you're doing it again. I can go over to that T-shirt place and make you a Swarm shirt if you like. Let me know. You go do that. Obviously you're on here tyring to create some sense of self-celebrity to compensate for something, anyway.
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Post by Swarm on May 9, 2007 14:21:32 GMT -5
At the risk of getting burned by all the flaming goin on here... Cena is a good wrestler. Really, he is. I mean, he's not HORRIBLE by any means. That being said, his in-ring moves are really basic and his fan base eats it up. H doesn't need to put on a technical wrestling clinic. In fact, if he did, a lot of his fans would probably lose interest. As for marketibility: Swarm is right. He draws. In fact, whether we like it or not, John Cena is pretty much the face of professional wrestling right now. When the casual or non-fan thinks current wrestling, they think Cena. But that DOESN'T mean he's a good in-ring worker. And that's the only point every other poster is trying to make. If that doesn't matter to you, thats cool. But most of us like our wrestling matches to be more interesting than a lot of Cena'a matches. Totally cool. I understand. I never said he was the greatest "in-ring worker" on the planet because he is clearly not...but he is the greatest "pro wres" on the planet right now... Everyone knows Umaga is the the greatest "in-ring worker" I mean c'mon...
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Post by Swarm on May 9, 2007 14:22:58 GMT -5
See you're doing it again. I can go over to that T-shirt place and make you a Swarm shirt if you like. Let me know. You go do that. Obviously you're on here tyring to create some sense of self-celebrity to compensate for something, anyway. No, I just like Cena and don't understand why everyone hates on him so much is all. You seem to be wanting to make this personal and I just want to talk about a wrestler I enjoy. That's it. If you want to flame me fine. I don't care.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on May 9, 2007 14:26:28 GMT -5
No, I just like Cena and don't understand why everyone hates on him so much is all. You seem to be wanting to make this personal and I just want to talk about a wrestler I enjoy. That's it. Really? Cuz that only contradicts every post you've actually made. You wouldn't be suddenly trying to play the victim game, would you?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2007 14:27:11 GMT -5
You go do that. Obviously you're on here tyring to create some sense of self-celebrity to compensate for something, anyway. No, I just like Cena and don't understand why everyone hates on him so much is all. You seem to be wanting to make this personal and I just want to talk about a wrestler I enjoy. That's it. If you want to flame me fine. I don't care. I respect Cena, and he's not "TEH ZUXXORS" but he certainly is no Bryan Danielson.
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Post by Swarm on May 9, 2007 14:28:50 GMT -5
No, I just like Cena and don't understand why everyone hates on him so much is all. You seem to be wanting to make this personal and I just want to talk about a wrestler I enjoy. That's it. Really? Cuz that only contradicts every post you've actually made. You wouldn't be suddenly trying to play the victim game, would you? How does that that only contradict every post I've actually made.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on May 9, 2007 14:33:00 GMT -5
Seriously, Bryan Danileson VS Fat Elvis is a license to print money. Someone must book this!!!!
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Post by Swarm on May 9, 2007 14:37:47 GMT -5
Off topic and I do apologize but I am new here and it would take me days to find the original thread but...
...to whoever made the Khali Brain Chop shirt and put it up for sale on that site...I bought two and they are awesome. Wore it to Mania and get people asking me where I got it whenever I wear it.
So thanks...again sorry for the otp but that dude's avatar reminded me of this.
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