ROH FYF in Philly Thread (02/17) FULL RESULTS!

[MGH]

Ring Of Honor
February 17th, 2007- 7:30pm belltime
Pennsylvania National Guard Armory
2700 Southampton Rd, Philadelphia, PA 19154

Tickets will be available at the door on the night of the show!!!

ROH World Title Match
Homicide vs. Takeshi Morishima

Samoa Joe's Final ROH Match In Philadelphia
Samoa Joe vs. Jimmy Rave

ROH World Tag Team Title Match
Christopher Daniels & Matt Sydal, with Allison Danger vs. Jack Evans & Shingo

FIP Heavyweight Title Match
Roderick Strong defends vs. Delirious

Grudge Match
Austin Aries vs. Claudio Castagnoli

Tag Team Attraction
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. El Generico & Kevin Steen

Six Person Street Fight
Adam Pearce, Jimmy Jacobs & Lacey vs. BJ Whitmer, Colt Cabana & Daizee Haze

ROHVideos.com Match
Nigel McGuinness vs. TJ Perkins

No video or digital cameras are allowed in the building!!!



RESULTS


Pre-Show

1) Rhett Titus & Pelle Primaeu defeat Bobby Dempsey & Alex Payne. Pelle pins Payne after a stunner.

2) ROH Top of the Class Trophy: Shane Hagadorn defeats Alex Payne.

3) Sara Del Ray defeats Mitch Franklin. The American Angel won via submission.

Main Show

1) Nigel McGuinness defeats TJ Perkins. Nigel pins Perkins after the lariat. Said to be a great opening match.

2) Austin Aries defeats Claudio Castagnoli. Aries said to be walking fine to the ring, but showing pain during the match. Austin won after hitting a 450 splash.

- Austin called out Roderick after the match, but Jack Evans comes out instead. He's against taking sides. Roderick and Davey come to the ring. "Roddy is awful on the mic"... Roderick calls out Jack to pick sides, but he doesn't decide anything. End of segment.

3) Street Fight: Colt Cabana & BJ Whitmer & Daizee Haze defeat Adam Pearce & Jimmy Jacobs & Lacey. Whitmer pins Jimmy after "super exploder". Very bloody match, with chairs being thrown all over the place, including into the audience.

4) Jay Briscoe & Mark Briscoe defeat El Generico & Kevin Steen. Briscoes get the win after hitting a combo Shooting Star Press-Guillotine Leg Drop combo on Kevin Steen. "Unwaxingbelievable" match, with the crowd chanting "Please Come Back" at Generico and Steen afterwards.

5) Samoa Joe defeats Jimmy Rave. Samoa Joe pins Jimmy Rave, and is now giving a goodbye speech. "Match was nothing special"...um, except that it was JOE'S LAST ROH MATCH IN PHILLY!

- Crowd near 1,000.

- INTERMISSION -

6) FIP Championship: Roderick Strong vs Delirious. Aries tried to attack Strong before the match, but never got to him. Match is ongoing now. During the match, Delirious was knocked out cold. The ref made the 'x' sign, as Roderick dragged Delirious out of the ring. Strong gave Delirious a powerbomb on the outside and went back to the ring. Ref made the 20 count. Delirious looked badly injured. Aries tried to attack Roderick again after the match but doesn't get to him again.

7) ROH World Tag Team Titles: Sydal & Daniels defeat SHINGO & Evans. Sydal gets the victory over Jack after a top rope doubleteam Angel's Wings on Jack. Fun match.

- After the match, Austin Aries comes out demanding that Jack Evans picks which side he will be on. Jack refuses. Aries says that he's going to find the next generation of stars and begin his own group. Evans vows to do the same, thus making this weekend the weekend of factions.

8) ROH World Championship: Takeshi Morishima defeats Homicide. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new ROH World Champion! Very hot finish. Morishima hit Homicide with two T-Bone suplexes, but Homicide kicked out. Morishima hit a lariat, then finished Homicide off with the suplex for the victory. A very pro-Homicide crowd was stunned at the finish. Homicide was visibly crying, losing the belt he worked five years to win.

ROH Returns to Philadelphia on Saturday, June 9.

[MGH]

Seems like we have some people going to the NY show, anyone going to be at the Philly one?

[Sad sack ass fruitbooty]

Ill be there 3rd row reserved baby!

[MGH]

So based on last tonight's results what do you think about the show later today? Mind changed on anything?

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

Joe's final match in Philly? I've been off the 'net in the last week, so I must have missed the announcement. It's true that he's no longer booked in ROH, then?

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

Oh, and I'm hoping it will be Joe/Rave, so I can buy the DVD and enjoy watching Joe pummel Rave for twelve minutes of their twelve and a half minute match.

Also, Lacey needs a beating for what she's done to my boy Jimmy. Go Daizee! Don't hold back!

[MGH]

Davey Richards got pulled from these two shows on this doubleshot because of an injury, so it's kind of thrown the card off. Joe was supposed to take on Rave at the NEXT show in Dayton, and face Nigel one on one 2 shows from now in Liverpool. So either way they are having to go early with this.

And as for Joe leaving, some people still think it's a work (a la Punk in 05) but to be honest I'd be shocked if it was at this point.

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

mygreatesthour said:

Davey Richards got pulled from these two shows on this doubleshot because of an injury, so it's kind of thrown the card off. Joe was supposed to take on Rave at the NEXT show in Dayton, and face Nigel one on one 2 shows from now in Liverpool. So either way they are having to go early with this.

And as for Joe leaving, some people still think it's a work (a la Punk in 05) but to be honest I'd be shocked if it was at this point.

What would such a work accomplish, except to piss a lot of people off for investing serious emotion in seeing Joe leave the company that he helped to build? Some things should not be used as an angle.

[MGH]

vanvader said:

mygreatesthour said:

Davey Richards got pulled from these two shows on this doubleshot because of an injury, so it's kind of thrown the card off. Joe was supposed to take on Rave at the NEXT show in Dayton, and face Nigel one on one 2 shows from now in Liverpool. So either way they are having to go early with this.

And as for Joe leaving, some people still think it's a work (a la Punk in 05) but to be honest I'd be shocked if it was at this point.

What would such a work accomplish, except to piss a lot of people off for investing serious emotion in seeing Joe leave the company that he helped to build? Some things should not be used as an angle.

Not to mention they just did it a year and 1/2 ago. That's one of those once in a lifetime angles that you pull off and it gets left alone. Those 6 shows cemented Punk as a ROH legend as far as I'm concerned. If they keep doing stuff like that it really loses its' specialness.

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

mygreatesthour said:

vanvader said:

What would such a work accomplish, except to piss a lot of people off for investing serious emotion in seeing Joe leave the company that he helped to build? Some things should not be used as an angle.

Not to mention they just did it a year and 1/2 ago. That's one of those once in a lifetime angles that you pull off and it gets left alone. Those 6 shows cemented Punk as a ROH legend as far as I'm concerned. If they keep doing stuff like that it really loses its' specialness.

Didn't the rumors originate from TNA? In that case, I can't see it being an ROH angle.

[MGH]

Yeah like I said, I highly doubt this is a work. Though I have to say I'm waxing shocked he beat Morishima clean tonight. Especially with Mor. challenging for the title tonight in Philly. Seemed kind of odd.

None the less, I can't wait to see the god like treatment Joe gets in Chicago for his final US ROH match and in Liverpool for his last ROH match period.

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

mygreatesthour said:

Yeah like I said, I highly doubt this is a work. Though I have to say I'm waxing shocked he beat Morishima clean tonight. Especially with Mor. challenging for the title tonight in Philly. Seemed kind of odd.

Well, I doubt they would put the belt on a non-ROH guy. He wouldn't be able to defend the title with the frequency that makes the title so important.

[MGH]

vanvader said:

mygreatesthour said:

Yeah like I said, I highly doubt this is a work. Though I have to say I'm waxing shocked he beat Morishima clean tonight. Especially with Mor. challenging for the title tonight in Philly. Seemed kind of odd.

Well, I doubt they would put the belt on a non-ROH guy. He wouldn't be able to defend the title with the frequency that makes the title so important.

Oh I don't think he's winning it either. I just think it's kind of stupid to have your next guy in line lose the night before his title shot. Then again, Rave won damn near every match he was in leading to last night and look where it got him! Dropped on his damn head!

Interestingly enough, among the ROH diehards it seems Homicide has become an under dog champion of sorts. A ton of people actually thought Gabe was going to shock the world and have Hero win the title from Cide at the first show of the year. Then everyone and their mother though Rave was going to be their next champion, and now it's all but a far gone conclusion that Morishima is taking the belt with him tonight. They actually have something with this, as everyone seems to think Cide is going to lose every time he steps out there.

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

mygreatesthour said:

vanvader said:

Well, I doubt they would put the belt on a non-ROH guy. He wouldn't be able to defend the title with the frequency that makes the title so important.

Oh I don't think he's winning it either. I just think it's kind of stupid to have your next guy in line lose the night before his title shot. Then again, Rave won damn near every match he was in leading to last night and look where it got him! Dropped on his damn head!

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Interestingly enough, among the ROH diehards it seems Homicide has become an under dog champion of sorts. A ton of people actually thought Gabe was going to shock the world and have Hero win the title from Cide at the first show of the year. Then everyone and their mother though Rave was going to be their next champion, and now it's all but a far gone conclusion that Morishima is taking the belt with him tonight. They actually have something with this, as everyone seems to think Cide is going to lose every time he steps out there.

It would honestly surprise me more if they gave Homicide a reign that lasted less than five or six defences. I'm a newbie to ROH, but they strike me as a company that doesn't change titles without a really good reason, and having Homicide as an almost transitional champ seems kind of pointless, since he doesn't really get anything out of it. A champion gains credibility by holding the belt, not by winning it.

I don't see Homicide losing it until June or even July of this year. Not due to 'Cide's personal merits as a champion, but because I've yet to see an ROH Title reign that lasts less than five or six months (unless Xavier's reign did).

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

Though more than likely I'm completely wrong and Homicide will lose the belt in two weeks to Nigel BJ Whitmer or someone.

[MGH]

I could watch Jimmy Rave get dropped night after night. Makes me feel warm inside to see him lose

And there have been some really short ROH title reigns, but most of them were for good reason. Punk's run only lasted through those 6 shows, but there were obviously reasons for that, plus the angle just wouldn't have worked without him being champion. Gibson (see new sig ) only had the title for 2 shows before Dragon took it from him. But he was leaving for WWE again, so that was cut short. Low Ki's is the only one I don't know about. He won the belt in 02, defended it against AJ Styles, then dropped it to Xavier. I don't know the reasoning behind that other than I guess to get Xavier more heat for having screwed Low Ki.

But then counteract those runs with Joe: 21 months, Danielson: 16 months, Aries: 6 months. Xavior: 5-6 months.

['Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada]

mygreatesthour said:

But then counteract those runs with Joe: 21 months, Danielson: 16 months, Aries: 6 months. Xavior: 5-6 months.

Those are easily the biggest numbers in any major wrestling promotion that I've seen since I started watching. It builds real anticipation to seeing a title change, especially when your shows are booked so that nearly ANYBODY looks like they could potentially win.

I'm not saying longer reigns are always better, but it really helps make a title seem like it's worth something more than an excuse for two guys to feud.

[MGH]

BUMP

Bell time is 7:30. Hopefully we get just as good a show as last night's.

[Arturo Classico]

I know Homicide wont lose to Morishima. I do hope he drops the belt soon, though.

[Photogenic Huss Bosh]

I have no idea where they're going with Morishima. I was absolutely shocked when Joe beat him last night. I don't see Morishima taking the title, but at the same time, there's no way in hell he's losing two nights in a row. It should be interesting to see how this developes