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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Mar 18, 2007 21:39:06 GMT -5
It was before my time, so I didn't see it really, but I want to know what was so terrible about it? I know he was a heel Iraqi sympathiser at the time. But I haven't seen any footage.
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Post by Chris Decker-The Wild Rover on Mar 18, 2007 21:41:43 GMT -5
i just think it was too short
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Mar 18, 2007 21:42:13 GMT -5
I have a problem with it because he came back in August 1990 and was champion within 6 months. He was out of shape too. He was only made champion to try and get a bit of publicity. I like Slaughter, but never thought he should be the champ. Then again he did end the Warriors boring reign, so he can't be that bad.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Mar 18, 2007 21:46:02 GMT -5
It just seemed tasteless to have Slaughter get heat through the 1st Persian Gulf War. And, he had a horrible new finisher that looked like he was giving his opponent a noogie.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Mar 18, 2007 21:48:10 GMT -5
I don't really have too much of a problem with his title run. I was a kid at the time, so I just hated him kayfabe-wise.
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Post by Rocky Van Heineken on Mar 18, 2007 21:59:27 GMT -5
I think it wasn't accepted because he really didn't defend it against anybody before losing it to Hogan.
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Post by Old School Heel mark4Morishima on Mar 18, 2007 22:03:09 GMT -5
It was before my time, so I didn't see it really, but I want to know what was so terrible about it? I know he was a heel Iraqi sympathiser at the time. But I haven't seen any footage. It was awesome. I marked for it like crazy as a kid.
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Post by Tom Selleck on Mar 18, 2007 23:28:40 GMT -5
It seemed so forced , I mean even as a kid I knew he was only the champ so Hogan could beat him at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Mar 18, 2007 23:46:57 GMT -5
It seemed so forced , I mean even as a kid I knew he was only the champ so Hogan could beat him at Wrestlemania. Yeah, I was a big Hogan fan as a kid, but by the time Wrestlemania VII rolled around it was very obvious that it was just a stupid way to create an "Ultra Heel" in Slaughter by capitalizing on the intense Iraqi hatred throughout the U.S. at the time (due to the current war at the time), and then use their "Ultra Face" in Hogan (representing the good ol' U.S.A.) to beat Slaughter at Wrestlemania and have everyone feel all warm & fuzzy because "America beat Iraq". I was glad, though, that Slaughter ended the Ultimate Warrior's terrible reign as WWF Champ. Plus, the match between Hogan & Slaughter At WMVII was actually pretty damn good. But yeah, Slaughter's "Noogie-O-Doom" was pretty stupid.
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Post by angryfan on Mar 18, 2007 23:50:14 GMT -5
It's been said, but it was cheap her personafied.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 19, 2007 4:26:12 GMT -5
I like at Survivor Series 90 when America's honor was defended by Nikoli Volkoff (a Soviet, now siding with USA), Tito Santa (Mexican) and The Bushwakers (New Zealand)......the only kayfabe American in the bout was Slaughter.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 19, 2007 4:30:25 GMT -5
I was 7, so...I couldn't say much about it then, but even as a toddler, I liked Sarge. Maybe it was from him being on G.I. Joe. But I also like his voice, his character was perfect, he sounded so mean and intense with that gravel voice. But as for his reign, looking back, yeah...it was forced and he was just holding it for Hogan, but I dug it.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 19, 2007 4:37:04 GMT -5
I loved Slaughter as a heel.
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Post by Midnight Rider on Mar 19, 2007 6:18:35 GMT -5
I loved Slaughter as a heel. I think that was part of it; many people remember Slaughter's very good run as a heel in the early 80's as the sadistic Drill Instructor using the Cobra Clutch(indeed probably his best feud was against Pat Patterson after Patterson "won" the Cobra Clutch Challenge).In 1990 the DI character was gone and replaced by the goofy Iraqi Sympathiser gimmick which didn't really click with Slaughter's look and promo style;the "original"Cobra Clutch was also gone(probably because DiBiase was using The Million Dollar Dream,which was pretty much almost exactly the same as The Cobra Clutch),it was replaced with a "new" Cobra Clutch which was nowhere near as good(The best way to describe it is Slaughter would put the opponent in the seated position,stand over them,and dig the knuckle of his index finger into their temple;it is what other old school fans know as "The Texas Brainbuster") In short,there was so little left of the Original Sgt.Slaughter that people couldn't identify with him.
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Post by soultsukino on Mar 19, 2007 6:36:48 GMT -5
Just about all the reasons listed above were true. Not to mention, other then the match with Duggan, did he actually ever defend the title before Fighting hogan?
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Post by willywonka666 on Mar 19, 2007 8:19:00 GMT -5
How and when did Sarge turn face after all this?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Mar 19, 2007 8:20:27 GMT -5
How and when did Sarge turn face after all this? I believe on an episode of Wrestling Challenge, Jim Duggan was facing one of the Nasty Boys and they doubled up on him, then out from the back came Sgt. Slaughter for no apparent reason to run them off and I think they shook hands, and he was suddenly a face again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2007 10:25:24 GMT -5
He was like the JBL of that time. He went from being a midcarder no one cared about. Then all of the sudden, a drastic gimmick change and the world title within months.
Too forced and contrived.
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Post by hollywood on Mar 19, 2007 10:33:36 GMT -5
How and when did Sarge turn face after all this? I believe on an episode of Wrestling Challenge, Jim Duggan was facing one of the Nasty Boys and they doubled up on him, then out from the back came Sgt. Slaughter for no apparent reason to run them off and I think they shook hands, and he was suddenly a face again. He later gave some sort of interview with Mean Gene at his "base" or whatever where he apologized for everything he did and said he just wanted his country back.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Mar 19, 2007 10:41:50 GMT -5
It was a weak and nonsensical storyline (oh, so we're not supposed to recognize one of Slaughter's running buddies is the Iron Sheik?), based on a cheap heat tactic of tasteless proportions. It played on mindless jingoistics to get over. The angle's main character was a non-factor in WWF programming for ... well ... years prior to sudden popping up out of nowhere and taking the title. And worst of all, there wasn't a person on Earth who didn't see that Slaughter was being used as a transitional champion, so everyone was just looking at their watches and waiting for Hogan to splatter him.
Bottom line, everything about it was forced, derivative, cheap, stupid and predictible.
But the WM match was pretty good, surprisingly.
Jed Shaffer ~And hey, let's not forget how the angle got Robert Remus legit, life-threatening heat. Yeah, getting death threats=bad angle.
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