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Post by Lionheart on Jun 3, 2007 22:48:49 GMT -5
In the "Create a WWE draft lottery" thread, infrared suggested having Tommy Dreamer do the ECW's draft picks since they don't have a GM.
I, personally, think that's the start of an outstanding idea. Tommy's not doing squat in-ring aside from getting jobbed out and thus torquing off any fans of the original ECW who may actually still be watching, and making him the figurehead of the brand might serve as a nice bone to those people. Furthermore, I think giving ECW an authority figure would do something to polish ECW's image and make it look like the E is actually trying to develop and organize it instead of just using it as a penal colony/nationally-televised OVW outlet.
How about the rest of you?
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Post by Swarm on Jun 3, 2007 22:50:08 GMT -5
No.
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Post by rrm15 on Jun 3, 2007 22:50:54 GMT -5
Its better than no one.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 3, 2007 22:51:27 GMT -5
I like it. Anything to keep him from killing himself to out over guys like Snitsky.
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Post by Lionheart on Jun 3, 2007 22:52:57 GMT -5
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Post by Ash Whenzday on Jun 3, 2007 22:57:38 GMT -5
I like it. Any original ECW guys would be a step up from... I guess Vince. Now who's gunna be permanent Raw GM?
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Post by rrm15 on Jun 3, 2007 22:58:38 GMT -5
I like it. Any original ECW guys would be a step up from... I guess Vince. Now who's gunna be permanent Raw GM? Probably just Coach.
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Post by Lionheart on Jun 3, 2007 23:02:55 GMT -5
I like it. Any original ECW guys would be a step up from... I guess Vince. Now who's gunna be permanent Raw GM? Probably just Coach. That works, Raw is the flagship show so nobody would expect it to have a GM with any illusion of independence from Vince.
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Post by EJS on Jun 3, 2007 23:03:18 GMT -5
It'll be Kelly Kelly, like at the Rumble.
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Post by Swarm on Jun 3, 2007 23:03:19 GMT -5
He would make a bad GM. He makes a fine hardcore wrestler with a nice little cult following on the internet but he is not charismatic enough, over enough or well know enough to carry the role. Very few people know who the dude is I have news for you...or at least what he used to be in ECW when it wasn't on TV and no one saw it but the hardcore underground fans...
Tommy Dreamer in the WWE is a jobber and you can't make a jobber the GM. Tommy Dreamer is The Brooklyn Brawler without the hat.
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Post by Lionheart on Jun 3, 2007 23:05:19 GMT -5
He would make a bad GM. He makes a fine hardcore wrestler with a nice little cult following on the internet but he is not charismatic enough, over enough or well know enough to carry the role. Very few people know who the dude is I have news for you...or at least what he used to be in ECW when it wasn't on TV and no one saw it but the hardcore underground fans... Tommy Dreamer in the WWE is a jobber and you can't make a jobber the GM. Tommy Dreamer is The Brooklyn Brawler without the hat. Hey, Brawler interviewed to be Teddy's assistant, right? ;D I bet you Tommy is more well known and over than Teddy Long was when they made him Smackdown GM.
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Post by angryfan on Jun 3, 2007 23:12:09 GMT -5
He would make a bad GM. He makes a fine hardcore wrestler with a nice little cult following on the internet but he is not charismatic enough, over enough or well know enough to carry the role. Very few people know who the dude is I have news for you...or at least what he used to be in ECW when it wasn't on TV and no one saw it but the hardcore underground fans... Tommy Dreamer in the WWE is a jobber and you can't make a jobber the GM. Tommy Dreamer is The Brooklyn Brawler without the hat. Wow, spoken like someone who has never seen a Dreamer promo before. Spectacular Let's see, there was the pep talk to York and Matthews in 200, where he showed his torn bicep on camera, and was screaming about "want it bad enough". There were the promos with Raven for about three years. Fantastic logic as well. "well, he's been shown as a jobber, so no one will want to hear him talk or see him as an authority figure". You mean like Long or freaking Coachman? Teddy Long was a ref, a bad ref, who became a manager, who then became GM. In this role, he says "holla",and puts people in matches with the Undertaker. Beyond that, he does nothing. Coachman was a very subpar announcer, who became a GM by proxy. He has no connection, no one cares when he talks, yet he has been in this role for some time. So, now a guy who, despite being good enough to hold an office postion (meaning he's liked and knows what he's doing in the company), who's good enough to go out there, not complain, and put over the talent they want put over, and who can talk, but has really never been given a chance (outside his feud with Newinski a few years ago) in WWE, is somehow less useful in a role that might help an entire brand than, say, a failed announcer or a failed ref, neither of whom were ever over with the crowd either.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Jun 3, 2007 23:15:28 GMT -5
He would make a bad GM. He makes a fine hardcore wrestler with a nice little cult following on the internet but he is not charismatic enough, over enough or well know enough to carry the role. Very few people know who the dude is I have news for you...or at least what he used to be in ECW when it wasn't on TV and no one saw it but the hardcore underground fans... Tommy Dreamer in the WWE is a jobber and you can't make a jobber the GM. Tommy Dreamer is The Brooklyn Brawler without the hat. Simple logic for simple minds. I'll leave it at that.
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Post by Lionheart on Jun 3, 2007 23:16:09 GMT -5
Now I know what it's like to watch someone shine a spotlight into a black hole.
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Post by angryfan on Jun 3, 2007 23:17:37 GMT -5
Meh, I've been trying logical arguments with warriorthug for a year now, I've become a masochist of sorts.
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Post by rrm15 on Jun 3, 2007 23:19:44 GMT -5
This is actually true.
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Post by acressl on Jun 3, 2007 23:22:19 GMT -5
I've become a masochist of sorts. Just like Dreamer, who you defended quite well. There's always the fear that standard E fans wouldn't care but he'd win them over if given the oppurtunity. That's what he does.
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Post by twiggy101 on Jun 3, 2007 23:23:48 GMT -5
I think that Dreamer with authoritah would be cool.
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Post by Swarm on Jun 3, 2007 23:28:41 GMT -5
Yeah but he wasn't a wrestler. He is also more well know than MVP, CM Punk and Carlito among others was when they debuted. Can't make a jobber wrestler the GM. It just cheapens the show.
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Post by angryfan on Jun 3, 2007 23:29:05 GMT -5
I've become a masochist of sorts. Just like Dreamer, who you defended quite well. There's always the fear that standard E fans wouldn't care but he'd win them over if given the oppurtunity. That's what he does. You mean like he did in Viking Hall, when the ECW fans wanted him not just gone, but carried out in a bag? I don't think many of the latter day ECW fans realize just how violently they hated him at first. We'll talk about "the days of green suspenders" as Mick Foley put it, but until he took the beating from Sandman (that ruptured a disc in his back), they hated him in Philly and everywhere else. We loved him because he went from "cartoon" to a guy who showed us, every night, just how damn much he wanted us to have the best show possible, even if it meant wrestling hurt (back injuries, neck injuries, dropping a flying elbow from the top rope with a torn bicep onto a chiar). Yeah, the business is a work, but one thing that the old-school ECW fans know is that, as dickish as we could be, when you won us over, we loved you, and it was forever.
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