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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jun 26, 2007 18:05:22 GMT -5
I just watched Raw this afternoon. Watching it after the fact turned what could have been a really touching tribute, to really really eerie.
However three points-
my heart goes out to all those for their loss.
Poor Malenko, this and Eddie had to really hit him
Poor Chavo, for the same reason, but even more so.
Kudos to Vince for doing the right thing. kudos for the empty arena, kudos for giving time off to the guys and girls to grieve, kudos for the speech at the beginning, kudos for ending the Mr. Mcmahon storyline, and kudos for being the rock for people to lean on from all the indications I've read.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 26, 2007 18:05:39 GMT -5
Might as well ask this here. Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had? When a wrestler dies, other wrestlers will use moves from his moveset out of respect and mourning. If that does happen anytime soon how will the crowds react? Usually its to an uproar of applause but i can see anyone using a diving headbutt or a the crossface do a GIANT round of boos and hatred.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jun 26, 2007 18:05:49 GMT -5
Might as well ask this here. Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had? I'm also curious to see how they do the shows if it's just straight wrestling or will they pay tribute to Benoit and praise him like they did last night. Them taking down the testimonials and such makes me believe that not much will be mentioned about Benoit tonight.
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Post by acressl on Jun 26, 2007 18:06:26 GMT -5
Might as well ask this here. Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had? I think they should just move on. The tribute they did on RAW was more than enough. I think they'll probably be inclined to drop him off the face of the earth given what happened.
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Post by Mike's a Midnight Express Mark on Jun 26, 2007 18:06:37 GMT -5
I do not post here often but like many, this whole episode warrants something from me. I think it is rather clear at his point exactly what Benoit did over the past weekend. Investigators seem confident that what transpired was a double-murder suicide. That being the case, my comments will be made with that as the preface and hopefully with a bit of coherence. I was never a Benoit fan. As a wrestler, he was solid but far from spectacular. But just like food, we all have our own likes and dislikes. I will not bash people who still feel an attachment to Benoit, it is only a natural reaction. Where my sadness lies is that there are many who were fans who feel the need to play the role of apologist. To attempt to find some off the wall excuse trivializes the death of the two victims. I find it repulsive to grasp for any sort of straw that could in some sick and sordid way attempt to justify what he did. This man killed his wife and child...MURDER! My goal is not to villify Benoit; his actions accomplished that. The RIP junk I find to be absolutely appalling. The 2 names that should be followed by RIP are Nancy and Daniel, the VICTIMS. Chris' name should be followed by, "may god have mercy on your soul." What he did was cowardly, heinous, and barbaric; but we must still hold out some hope that in spite of it, the lord shows mercy on Chris. While I do not follow wrestling consistently anymore, I do still have a great appreciation for what the performers do and the entertainment they provide. My hope is that through the difficulty and the circumstances of these events (and the untimely deaths prior), the world of professional wrestling attempts to straighten its act out. The responsibility for that falls completely on Vince McMahon and I am hopeful that he will find some way to restore a degree if integrity to a sport that all of us hold dear to our hearts. Awesome post dude! Seconded. Does anyone else find it creepy that my father had mentioned this all last night during RAW. He talked about how they were lionizing (sp?) him far too early. I felt sick when I read that he killed his family.
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Post by The Wrestling Rambler on Jun 26, 2007 18:06:40 GMT -5
Surely the text messages would have had something other than banking info. Didn't something he send prompt someone in WWE to contact the police?
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Post by glassplate on Jun 26, 2007 18:07:16 GMT -5
I'm guessing they'll take Benoit out of the opening of WWE (the one that shows a whole bunch of champions)
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Jun 26, 2007 18:07:33 GMT -5
Overanalyzing. Plenty of people enjoy slasher movies without being psycho.
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Post by sunwukong on Jun 26, 2007 18:07:54 GMT -5
Might as well ask this here. Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had? When a wrestler dies, other wrestlers will use moves from his moveset out of respect and mourning. If that does happen anytime soon how will the crowds react? Usually its to an uproar of applause but i can see anyone using a diving headbutt or a the crossface do a GIANT round of boos and hatred. I doubt you'll see any German suplexes or flying headbutts. The WWE knows the gravity of this situation. They know how most people will feel about it.
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Post by HRH The KING on Jun 26, 2007 18:08:18 GMT -5
I think it would be best if WWE simply never mentioned Benoit again and proceeded on with the show on ECW and SmackDOWN.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jun 26, 2007 18:08:42 GMT -5
Might as well ask this here. Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had? I think they should just move on. The tribute they did on RAW was more than enough. I think they'll probably be inclined to drop him off the face of the earth given what happened. I concur, last night's 3 hour tribute was more than enough, IMO. Also, considering the info that was released I can't see them putting more testimonials about how great a guy he was. I'm sure backstage in WWE must be in disarray and confusion right now.
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Post by Mike's a Midnight Express Mark on Jun 26, 2007 18:09:00 GMT -5
I think it would be best if WWE simply never mentioned Benoit again and proceeded on with the show on ECW and SmackDOWN. Agreed. Or eulogize Nancy and Daniel in some fashion.
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Jun 26, 2007 18:09:05 GMT -5
Just throwing in my two cents regarding his son being given growth hormones...
It isn't that uncommon for a child to be on growth hormones. A good friend of mine growing up was on hormones himself, just because he was so small compared to the rest of us. So while nothing would shock me in this case anymore, it's entirely possible that his son was on the hormones for legitimate reasons.
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Post by lmoney215 on Jun 26, 2007 18:09:11 GMT -5
after reading all the reports from the police and listening to the news conference, i am still in shock, like its a bad dream that this happened the way it did. as some earlier posts have said, i would also like to remember benoit the wrestler and the way he entertained us. at the same time, its hard to celebrate someone who committed such a violent act. there isn't a right or wrong way to respond here. I think we all hope that nancy, daniel, are in a better place and hopefully chris will somehow be in a safer place as well
the wwe has done their best to respond to this tragedy as best as they could. it will be really awkward to watch ECW tonight and see how everything plays out there. im not sure there is a right thing to do right now, except work and try not to mention it, but you will know that it will be on the minds of many people.
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Post by 2 time pro bowler Fred Dryer on Jun 26, 2007 18:09:54 GMT -5
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Post by Matt Rogers on Jun 26, 2007 18:09:57 GMT -5
The thing that gets to me is that I loved Chris Benoit, I really did. I didn't think there was ANYONE better in between those ropes, and I thought he was someone all wrestlers should strive to be like. When a hero can do something like this though, it just throws all my s*** into disarray, I don't really know what to think. I'll always love Chris Benoit the wrestler, always, and everyone forgetting 22 years of greatness over one senseless weekend makes me really sad, even if I can understand people hating Chris Benoit the man over it. One of the greatest wrestlers of all time is inevitably going to be remembered as a murder, I'm not sure how I feel about that.
I just don't really know what to think about a guy who was meant to be so respected and so loved doing something like this, I really don't.
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Post by bpierce on Jun 26, 2007 18:10:25 GMT -5
Listening to Bill Apter on Fox News was...well, yet another surreal moment in what has been a very surreal (and not in a good way) situation.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 26, 2007 18:10:56 GMT -5
When a wrestler dies, other wrestlers will use moves from his moveset out of respect and mourning. If that does happen anytime soon how will the crowds react? Usually its to an uproar of applause but i can see anyone using a diving headbutt or a the crossface do a GIANT round of boos and hatred. I doubt you'll see any German suplexes or flying headbutts. The WWE knows the gravity of this situation. They know how most people will feel about it. Moves like the sharpshooter still get MAD applause just because its the sharpshooter and we know what it represents. On the reverse side of that coin, will years from now Germans & flying headbutts be instant heat for whoever performed them? This isnt an event thats going to be forgotten ANY time soon, so i can see Benoits moves being utterly blacklisted for years to come.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jun 26, 2007 18:12:32 GMT -5
i was out for awhile, he we discussed all of beniots skeleton's? or are there a few left to exploit? and no im not ashamed of having him in my sig, becuase i dont feel one moment of hoplessness and desperation on his part warrents me completly forgetting the years of hard work he's put into wrestling.
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Post by Mike's a Midnight Express Mark on Jun 26, 2007 18:12:45 GMT -5
It read like one big bi***slap if you ask me.
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