Benoit Continued

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Carrying over from the previous thread:

officialfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=WWE&action=display&thread=1182888189

Discussion of the ongoing Benoit situation continues here. Remember, please be respectful. No flaming of ANY sort will be allowed or you WILL be banned.

Now carry on.

[Parrish]

I am curious about the text messages and what exactly what was said in them

[Mister Pigwell]

parrish said:

I am curious about the text messages and what exactly what was said in them

I wonder if we'll ever get that info?

Personally if it was me I dont think I'd want to share that with anyone it would overwhelm me~~

[bennyhill]

I do not post here often but like many, this whole episode warrants something from me. I think it is rather clear at his point exactly what Benoit did over the past weekend. Investigators seem confident that what transpired was a double-murder suicide. That being the case, my comments will be made with that as the preface and hopefully with a bit of coherence.

I was never a Benoit fan. As a wrestler, he was solid but far from spectacular. But just like food, we all have our own likes and dislikes. I will not bash people who still feel an attachment to Benoit, it is only a natural reaction. Where my sadness lies is that there are many who were fans who feel the need to play the role of apologist. To attempt to find some off the wall excuse trivializes the death of the two victims. I find it repulsive to grasp for any sort of straw that could in some sick and sordid way attempt to justify what he did. This man killed his wife and child...MURDER! My goal is not to villify Benoit; his actions accomplished that.

The RIP junk I find to be absolutely appalling. The 2 names that should be followed by RIP are Nancy and Daniel, the VICTIMS. Chris' name should be followed by, "may god have mercy on your soul." What he did was cowardly, heinous, and barbaric; but we must still hold out some hope that in spite of it, the lord shows mercy on Chris.

While I do not follow wrestling consistently anymore, I do still have a great appreciation for what the performers do and the entertainment they provide. My hope is that through the difficulty and the circumstances of these events (and the untimely deaths prior), the world of professional wrestling attempts to straighten its act out. The responsibility for that falls completely on Vince McMahon and I am hopeful that he will find some way to restore a degree if integrity to a sport that all of us hold dear to our hearts.

[BRV]

parrish said:

I am curious about the text messages and what exactly what was said in them

CNN said that they were confusing and mysterous and regarding such things as "having to let the dogs out" and that "the back door was left open".

[Hiroshi Hase]

I'd like to know if they were any needle marks on the kids arm as mentioned in the other thread.

[Baixo Astral]

bennyhill said:

I do not post here often but like many, this whole episode warrants something from me. I think it is rather clear at his point exactly what Benoit did over the past weekend. Investigators seem confident that what transpired was a double-murder suicide. That being the case, my comments will be made with that as the preface and hopefully with a bit of coherence.

I was never a Benoit fan. As a wrestler, he was solid but far from spectacular. But just like food, we all have our own likes and dislikes. I will not bash people who still feel an attachment to Benoit, it is only a natural reaction. Where my sadness lies is that there are many who were fans who feel the need to play the role of apologist. To attempt to find some off the wall excuse trivializes the death of the two victims. I find it repulsive to grasp for any sort of straw that could in some sick and sordid way attempt to justify what he did. This man killed his wife and child...MURDER! My goal is not to villify Benoit; his actions accomplished that.

The RIP junk I find to be absolutely appalling. The 2 names that should be followed by RIP are Nancy and Daniel, the VICTIMS. Chris' name should be followed by, "may god have mercy on your soul." What he did was cowardly, heinous, and barbaric; but we must still hold out some hope that in spite of it, the lord shows mercy on Chris.

While I do not follow wrestling consistently anymore, I do still have a great appreciation for what the performers do and the entertainment they provide. My hope is that through the difficulty and the circumstances of these events (and the untimely deaths prior), the world of professional wrestling attempts to straighten its act out. The responsibility for that falls completely on Vince McMahon and I am hopeful that he will find some way to restore a degree if integrity to a sport that all of us hold dear to our hearts.

Please post more often, that was one of the best thought out posts of the whole sorry time we're going through.

[Parrish]

the contents of the text messages will be leaked eventually

[andre29bc]

parrish said:

I am curious about the text messages and what exactly what was said in them

From what i've heard it was suppose to be things like bank account numbers and important stuff like that, nothing cryptic and nothing like a suicide note from what i've read

[damian316]

"I don't really get the whole bible thing. It's been brought up alot by the media. I think it's insignificant. This story is just as disturbing with, or without the bibles? What do the bibles add to this story that I'm missing?"

One of you guys asked this in the previous thread, and although I do not consider myself an expert at all, I have taken quite a few psych and criminology courses in college ...

One of the times when a horrible tragedy like this occurs, the criminal will attempt to leave sever hidden clues or try and make a statement about the killing. I have been reading over this tragedy as it has unfolded and decided to register here to offer my thoughts.

The actions of Benoit suggest that he had planned this for quite some time, and this was not a case of spotaneous 'roid-rage'. Earlier last week, reports emerged that he had taken time off for a 'family emergency' which shows that he knew what he was going to do and gave himself ample time to do so. He may even have timed it with the Vince death storyline, but I'm probably just grasping at straws.

The religious symbology is also of significance because it too suggests that this was not a random case of 'roid-rage'. The fact that he put bibles next to his wife and son show that he knew EXACTLY what he was doing, and also may have been placed that he felt that they were innocent. Also, the fact that his body was in the basement while the bodies of the victims were found in the upper floors might show a disctinction of Heaven vs. Hell.

Most of the times, these types of murderers and criminals are always never expected to commit acts like these and are loved by all those around them, and that was certainly the case with Chris Benoit as shown by the love portrayed by his peers towards him last night.

Just my two cents ...

[Michael Coello]

Might as well ask this here.

Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had?

[Fandjango Unchained]

www.wwe.com/inside/news/archive/snebenoit

Kind of creepy...or is this just over-analyzingit all?

[Mike's a Midnight Express Mark]

parrish said:

the contents of the text messages will be leaked eventually

Probably through that TMZ website.

^^Yes, it really is very creepy.

[Joe Newberry]

I imagine there would have been a struggle, and signs there of, if Chris Benoit had been hanged by someone else. I also find it hard to believe any outside person would have such a vendetta against him that they'd stage an elaborate murder-suicide so that not only would Benoit be killed, but he'd also have his legacy tarnished forever. No, I'm afraid that no conspiracy theory is going to white-wash the truth out of this situation. Chris Benoit killed his wife and child, then himself, and we likely will never know exactly why or with what level of premeditation, but I think it's safe to say this wasn't a convoluted frame-up by someone out to get him.

[Baixo Astral]

sinister1 said:

Might as well ask this here.

Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had?

I think it will be a tribute show to Nancy and Daniel, if anything. Just exhibition matches.

[Parrish]

sinister1 said:

Might as well ask this here.

Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had?

they may mention his death..but there will no more praise of benoit from WWE.

[ravishingbobcaudle]

Fox News channel is doing an in depth show on this, don't know if anyone has posted about this yet, just came back to the board.

[skillz]

thegoldenspike said:

bennyhill said:

I do not post here often but like many, this whole episode warrants something from me. I think it is rather clear at his point exactly what Benoit did over the past weekend. Investigators seem confident that what transpired was a double-murder suicide. That being the case, my comments will be made with that as the preface and hopefully with a bit of coherence.

I was never a Benoit fan. As a wrestler, he was solid but far from spectacular. But just like food, we all have our own likes and dislikes. I will not bash people who still feel an attachment to Benoit, it is only a natural reaction. Where my sadness lies is that there are many who were fans who feel the need to play the role of apologist. To attempt to find some off the wall excuse trivializes the death of the two victims. I find it repulsive to grasp for any sort of straw that could in some sick and sordid way attempt to justify what he did. This man killed his wife and child...MURDER! My goal is not to villify Benoit; his actions accomplished that.

The RIP junk I find to be absolutely appalling. The 2 names that should be followed by RIP are Nancy and Daniel, the VICTIMS. Chris' name should be followed by, "may god have mercy on your soul." What he did was cowardly, heinous, and barbaric; but we must still hold out some hope that in spite of it, the lord shows mercy on Chris.

While I do not follow wrestling consistently anymore, I do still have a great appreciation for what the performers do and the entertainment they provide. My hope is that through the difficulty and the circumstances of these events (and the untimely deaths prior), the world of professional wrestling attempts to straighten its act out. The responsibility for that falls completely on Vince McMahon and I am hopeful that he will find some way to restore a degree if integrity to a sport that all of us hold dear to our hearts.

Please post more often, that was one of the best thought out posts of the whole sorry time we're going through.

Amen.

[sunwukong]

sinister1 said:

Might as well ask this here.

Smackdown/ECW shows were suppose to be straight wrestling, so does that mean there will be no mention of Benoit? Will there be "I came to bury Benoit, not Praise him" stuff(hopefully not)? Will it be like a tribute like Owen or Eddie had?

I figure they make a rather vague mention of the "Benoit tragedy", but I don't see them eulogizing him or showing him in anything resembling a positive light.

[themanwithnoname]

bennyhill said:

I do not post here often but like many, this whole episode warrants something from me. I think it is rather clear at his point exactly what Benoit did over the past weekend. Investigators seem confident that what transpired was a double-murder suicide. That being the case, my comments will be made with that as the preface and hopefully with a bit of coherence.

I was never a Benoit fan. As a wrestler, he was solid but far from spectacular. But just like food, we all have our own likes and dislikes. I will not bash people who still feel an attachment to Benoit, it is only a natural reaction. Where my sadness lies is that there are many who were fans who feel the need to play the role of apologist. To attempt to find some off the wall excuse trivializes the death of the two victims. I find it repulsive to grasp for any sort of straw that could in some sick and sordid way attempt to justify what he did. This man killed his wife and child...MURDER! My goal is not to villify Benoit; his actions accomplished that.

The RIP junk I find to be absolutely appalling. The 2 names that should be followed by RIP are Nancy and Daniel, the VICTIMS. Chris' name should be followed by, "may god have mercy on your soul." What he did was cowardly, heinous, and barbaric; but we must still hold out some hope that in spite of it, the lord shows mercy on Chris.

While I do not follow wrestling consistently anymore, I do still have a great appreciation for what the performers do and the entertainment they provide. My hope is that through the difficulty and the circumstances of these events (and the untimely deaths prior), the world of professional wrestling attempts to straighten its act out. The responsibility for that falls completely on Vince McMahon and I am hopeful that he will find some way to restore a degree if integrity to a sport that all of us hold dear to our hearts.

Awesome post dude!