Jackaveli
AC Slater
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Post by Jackaveli on Jun 26, 2007 14:44:21 GMT -5
Well I've been watching CNN for a few hours and I can tell you what's been mentioned.
One lady talked about how the wrestling lifestyle is stressful and there are very few breaks. She mentioned how people feel wrestling is fake because it's scripted but said that the action in the ring is very real and takes a toll on their bodies. She mentioned that there is no union or health benefits provided by employers and when they are injured, they keep going.
Another report talked about how there are a plethora of deaths of wrestlers since the 1980s that extend two pages and the vast majority of them are young.
They did another feature on how the wrestling fans are reacting to the tragedy and how they are torn between whether to grieve or to be angry at Benoit and the ongoing debate about how his legacy should be recognized. They even highlighted several comments from wrestling communities (sorry, Wrestlecrap was not one of them). They showed a graphic of WWE's website and highlighted the tributes on the site, and then showed another image of the site and showed how everything was taken down, and how they are removing his items from ShopZone.
Another report talked about how steroids could have possibly played a factor.
This was all BEFORE the press conference, mind you. I will say this, CNN did remain fairly objective about it all.
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Post by WHATAMANOOOVER on Jun 26, 2007 14:44:37 GMT -5
The press (especially cable news) will always look for that one bit of juicy info to push onto the public.
Let's face it, we don't know if he was on steroids until those toxicology reports surface.
But if they do and it's found that steroids were in his system...will there be enough of an uproar in whatever circles that some outside governing body will start asking serious questions of not just WWE but pro wrestling as an industry?
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Jun 26, 2007 14:45:27 GMT -5
Question to those who hate Fox news so much. Why the smurf do you keep watching it if all you do is pup? Most of us are flipping through CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News, and watching Benoit updates as they come. After the press conference, only Fox continued to discuss it.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jun 26, 2007 14:45:43 GMT -5
I don't think they're blaming professional wrestling as a whole. Even though the media is going steroid crazy about this, the media has always been like that. They're not saying any bad things about WWE or professional wrestling as a whole. However, it is a dark day in the world of professional wrestling. Actually Trace Gallagher on Fox ended by saying that the government needed to crack down on WWE the same as it had on the MLB, etc. I think WWE is in for some rough seas. Ok, I didn't hear that. But I think cracking down on steroids with everybody, top to bottom, and regulating that would be a good idea. Whether they are the main event at Wrestlemania, or the opening match on Heat.
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Post by Rocky Van Heineken on Jun 26, 2007 14:46:40 GMT -5
One of the reporters on Fox said that if you have a legal prescription for anabolics, you don't violate the WWE welness policy.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Jun 26, 2007 14:46:43 GMT -5
Because they're the only ones still having any TV coverage at the moment? CNN, MSNBC? naaaa You should actually check those channels before saying that.
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WUMPUS
Team Rocket
Money is paper which TNA burns in a barrell in Jarrett's garage.....
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Post by WUMPUS on Jun 26, 2007 14:47:28 GMT -5
FOX News fails at life.....and humanity....and journalism.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Jun 26, 2007 14:47:33 GMT -5
Because they're the only ones still having any TV coverage at the moment? CNN, MSNBC? naaaa Their press conferences ended. But please, don't let that stop you getting uptight over justified criticism of the media.
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Jeff
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Jeff on Jun 26, 2007 14:47:47 GMT -5
Bibles? Thats just f***ing sick.
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Post by Stu on Jun 26, 2007 14:47:53 GMT -5
I need to take a break from all this and visit the other threads. You all may want to do the same.
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Post by Yessica on Jun 26, 2007 14:48:06 GMT -5
I'm still confused as to the text messages on Sunday... Were there messages or weren't there? I think they said something about the person not receiving the text until a few hours after he sent it. My phone is also messed up and sometimes don't get some texts until a day after.
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j-man
Bubba Ho-Tep
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Post by j-man on Jun 26, 2007 14:48:43 GMT -5
1. This just got 10x worse then I could of imagined. There was nothing accidental about either of these murders and it appears they were done in an extremely gruesome manner.
2. I applaud Fox News for bringing up steroids. Whether they were in his system is irrelevant, but the more discussion of this problem in wrestling the better. The government needs to step in and start regulating the WWE and really crack down on whats going on because Benoit, or not, roid rage and steroid related deaths are not on the decline.
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Post by bigstamp2382 on Jun 26, 2007 14:48:47 GMT -5
After the bibles, bounding the wife, killing the son while he was asleep. This was premeditated. This wasn't just one severe case of roid rage.
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nisi
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Post by nisi on Jun 26, 2007 14:48:51 GMT -5
I fear that it could happen to anyone I know/love, that somewhere down the line they might be put on some series of meds that completely warps the way they behave and interact with others, to the point where they do something like get violent. Well said. While organic mental illness generally does not lead to violence, it's rather rare for seriously mentally ill people to be violent when they are more likely simply to be strange and have reduced social contact, there are all kinds of substance-induced psychoses that are more likely to lead to violence. PCP and inhalant abuse are among the worse ones.
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Agent P
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Agent P on Jun 26, 2007 14:50:09 GMT -5
My plea for some decency.
Confused, hurt, mad, sad. I think right now we are all feeling a mixture of these emotions. I know about as well as anyone that it is hard to control your emotions when a tragedy such as this occurs. It conjurs feelings that at times are hard to express.
However us fighting amongst each other isn't going to help. We all have our opinions, but can we try to be civil and not rip each other apart for stating an opinion that we may not all agree with?
Before you post, take a deep breath, let the words flow as they normally would and try not to be overly hostile with one another.
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rra
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Post by rra on Jun 26, 2007 14:50:31 GMT -5
Actually Trace Gallagher on Fox ended by saying that the government needed to crack down on WWE the same as it had on the MLB, etc. I think WWE is in for some rough seas. Ok, I didn't hear that. But I think cracking down on steroids with everybody, top to bottom, and regulating that would be a good idea. Whether they are the main event at Wrestlemania, or the opening match on Heat. I agree. WWE and its joke of a wellness policy needs the seriousness thats been half-assed or outright IWC (Ignored When Convenient). If anything good could come from this absolute tragedy, its a Govt smackdown.
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j-man
Bubba Ho-Tep
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Post by j-man on Jun 26, 2007 14:51:01 GMT -5
I fear that it could happen to anyone I know/love, that somewhere down the line they might be put on some series of meds that completely warps the way they behave and interact with others, to the point where they do something like get violent. Well said. While organic mental illness generally does not lead to violence, it's rather rare for seriously mentally ill people to be violent when they are more likely simply to be strange and have reduced social contact, there are all kinds of substance-induced psychoses that are more likely to lead to violence. PCP and inhalant abuse are among the worse ones. Fox News had a doctor on who said that he had seen many cases where people went into psychotic roid rages that lead to violence. I trust the doctor.
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Post by Nice Guy Cody on Jun 26, 2007 14:51:02 GMT -5
I need to take a break from all this and visit the other threads. You all may want to do the same. Frankly, after seeing some of the comments and outright trolling in posts and sigs coupled with the whole damn gravity of this worsening situation, it might be a good idea to take an outright break from the internet. This is just too damn much for me to take all at once.
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Post by Rocky Van Heineken on Jun 26, 2007 14:51:07 GMT -5
Not to repost, but a reporter on Fox News claimed that if you have a valid prescription for anabolics, you do not violate the welness policy.
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Brain Of F'n J
Hank Scorpio
Not that cool enough to have one of these....wait.
We Discodians must stick apart.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Jun 26, 2007 14:52:18 GMT -5
Unless he was being controlled by demonic possession, or had been replaced by a pod person, there is no absolution for killing your own child. None. No mental illness, no drug, no excuse. Do it, and thee are damned. Jed Shaffer ~Eddie's probably vomiting with rage right now. Sorry man, I totally understand what you're saying (and God knows I could never understand what could drive a person to kill ANYONE, let alone their own child), but that's just not how mental illness works. But here's the part which (and I'm not trying to be snide here) maybe I didn't get across fully: I don't care if he was mentally ill. He killed his wife and child.I refuse to accept that he just became a mindless killing robot because a circuit snapped or his ying was too far over to yang. And, furthermore, he killed himself afterwards. Which means he felt guilt. Guilt is a province strictly of the sound of mind. He did what he did, then killed himself because he knew what he did was wrong. I'm not saying you're wrong in how you feel. But please don't tell me I am, or that I don't get it. I get it. And, as far as I'm concerned, it's a load of s**t. He's a child killer. There's no coming back from that. Jed Shaffer ~Agree to disagree, HMark?
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