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Post by PRIME on Jul 1, 2007 11:54:14 GMT -5
There's no longer anything that defines a X-division wrestler. First you have a non-cruiserwieght(Joe) destroy everyone in the X-division. To be fair though Siaki wieghed 240 lb. when he won it, but back then it was a CW division that wasn't called a cw division. Now they've made it clear that guys like the Dudleyz can win it.
So what's the f'n point in it?
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Post by Agent P on Jul 1, 2007 11:59:34 GMT -5
TNA never flat out said it was for Cruiserweights. They always said "It's not about weight limits, it's about no limits." Theoretically Kevin Nash and Rhino could challenge for the title.
It's been pigeonholed as the Cruiserweight Title to the point where they need someone like Joe to remind us that you can be of any size to hold it.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Jul 1, 2007 12:00:24 GMT -5
They always stressed "It's no Limits". The X division title hasn't meant anything in years.
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Post by PRIME on Jul 1, 2007 12:02:40 GMT -5
TNA never flat out said it was for Cruiserweights. They always said "It's not about weight limits, it's about no limits." Theoretically Kevin Nash and Rhino could challenge for the title. It's been pigeonholed as the Cruiserweight Title to the point where they need someone like Joe to remind us that you can be of any size to hold it. With that said that means it has no purpose. No meaning at all. It's the IC title. |
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Jul 1, 2007 12:06:01 GMT -5
It is actually the mid-level title everyone's been saying TNA needs to have.  |
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Post by Voldemar H. "Brak" Guerta on Jul 1, 2007 12:07:02 GMT -5
Last time I cared about the X-Division Title was back when Joe, Daniels, and Styles were feuding over it. That was about two years ago.  |
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Post by Agent P on Jul 1, 2007 12:12:16 GMT -5
TNA never flat out said it was for Cruiserweights. They always said "It's not about weight limits, it's about no limits." Theoretically Kevin Nash and Rhino could challenge for the title. It's been pigeonholed as the Cruiserweight Title to the point where they need someone like Joe to remind us that you can be of any size to hold it. With that said that means it has no purpose. No meaning at all. It's the IC title. How does it not have a purpose? It gives the guys who are not in the main event every week something to feud over. If the guys were feuding over nothing then we'd have a complaint. Yes Jay Lethal, Chris Sabin, Alex Shelley, Sonjay Dutt and the other X-Division guys don't have the star power of Joe, Daniels and A.J., but this gives them a platform to get over and possibly one day become a star. |
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Post by The Line on Jul 1, 2007 12:28:14 GMT -5
It is actually the mid-level title everyone's been saying TNA needs to have. thats what I hate about people complaining about TNA. They say TNA needs a mid-level title, like a US or TV title, when they already have one. |
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Post by Cyno on Jul 1, 2007 12:38:16 GMT -5
If it's the midcard title, it sure as hell hasn't been booked like one.
The idea of the X Division is that it's supposed to feature more high-flying spots and just faster-paced wrestling overall (in other words, not a typical heavyweight-style match). Cruiserweights just happen to excel at this type of wrestling, but TNA didn't want to have an arbitrary weight limit or call it the Cruiserweight title. If there are guys like Samoa Joe who can wrestle the type of matches that one expects out of the X Division, then let them. Although I think the title's suffered from HORRID booking lately, it still has its purpose. At the very least, it hasn't been made as worthless as the WWE IC or Cruiserweight titles have been.
That said, I would like to see some sort of Upper Midcard title (like the US or IC title) for the heavyweight guys who can't really wrestle an X-Division match, yet aren't ready for the main event picture. However, this can be put off until TNA finally has that coveted second hour time slot.
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Post by Agent P on Jul 1, 2007 12:40:30 GMT -5
If it's the midcard title, it sure as hell hasn't been booked like one. The idea of the X Division is that it's supposed to feature more high-flying spots and just faster-paced wrestling overall (in other words, not a typical heavyweight-style match). Cruiserweights just happen to excel at this type of wrestling, but TNA didn't want to have an arbitrary weight limit or call it the Cruiserweight title. If there are guys like Samoa Joe who can wrestle the type of matches that one expects out of the X Division, then let them. Although I think the title's suffered from HORRID booking lately, it still has its purpose. At the very least, it hasn't been made as worthless as the WWE IC or Cruiserweight titles have been. That said, I would like to see some sort of Upper Midcard title (like the US or IC title) for the heavyweight guys who can't really wrestle an X-Division match, yet aren't in the main event picture yet. However, this can be put off until TNA finally has that coveted second hour time slot. That is the best explanation I have heard yet. |
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Jul 1, 2007 12:41:02 GMT -5
It is actually the mid-level title everyone's been saying TNA needs to have. thats what I hate about people complaining about TNA. They say TNA needs a mid-level title, like a US or TV title, when they already have one. The problem is it's not supposed to be a mid-level title...and for a while there the X Division Title was EASILY more prestigious than the NWA. |
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Post by Swarm on Jul 1, 2007 12:44:07 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Jul 1, 2007 12:46:42 GMT -5
Yeah, the problem is the booking but it is physically there, lol .
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Post by paragon on Jul 1, 2007 13:10:51 GMT -5
At the moment, it has no meaning because it's being used as a prop to put Joe in the main event.
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Post by comahan on Jul 1, 2007 13:11:41 GMT -5
Its not so much a CW title as it is a 'Indy-Style-of-Wrestling' Title
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Post by nisi on Jul 1, 2007 13:19:51 GMT -5
When it was the de facto high flyer title, it had a lot of meaning, and when it had big guys who could hang with the high flyers it really made TNA unique. When the whole X Division was fed to Joe as a snack, it lost a lot of meaning.
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Post by thestinger on Jul 1, 2007 14:03:50 GMT -5
If Mike Awesome were alive, he could have held the X-Division title.
Nobody can say he didn't wrestle X-Division style. Big Guys like him and Joe are rare though. Hernandez can fly when he wants to.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Jul 1, 2007 14:06:33 GMT -5
If Mike Awesome were alive, he could have held the X-Division title. Nobody can say he didn't wrestle X-Division style. Big Guys like him and Joe are rare though. Hernandez can fly when he wants to. Sean O'Haire. ...still trying to figure out how the E pissed that one away. |
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Post by Joekishi on Jul 1, 2007 15:54:43 GMT -5
TNA never flat out said it was for Cruiserweights. They always said "It's not about weight limits, it's about no limits." Theoretically Kevin Nash and Rhino could challenge for the title. It's been pigeonholed as the Cruiserweight Title to the point where they need someone like Joe to remind us that you can be of any size to hold it. Yeah, but Joe's the only guy who has been booked in matches to take the title. I could see Abyss or Hoyt being about no limits too, but then you know the x-division are really tiny. It pissed me off when Joe won the title, because all that happened was that the ENTIRE division was fed (pun intended) to Joe. Seriously it was. Tenay's been saying the X-division title is equivalent to the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Crown, the Cruiserweight Title, and that's not right. Seriously. it's now become the lowliest of titles in TNA, and the x-division is basically now mirroring the WWE cruiserweight division. which is a damn shame. |
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Post by Agent P on Jul 1, 2007 15:58:16 GMT -5
At least the X Division Champion is featured weekly and is usually a major part of the show. The WWE Cruiserweight Champion almost never wrestles and no matter who it is, you usually have to think for a minute before figuring out who the champ is.
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