MetalGearDizzle
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Post by MetalGearDizzle on Jul 28, 2007 18:09:34 GMT -5
Pretty much what the topic says, I'd like a GIF of Steiner hitting a frankensteiner in TNA. I think he's only done one, but whatev. haha.
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Post by Rube on Jul 28, 2007 19:30:16 GMT -5
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Post by Aceorton on Jul 28, 2007 19:53:48 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to agree with some of the comments on that video.
A hurricanrana from the top is NOT a Frankensteiner. A Frankensteiner catches the opponent bouncing off the far ropes. Scott Steiner's days of doing a Frankensteiner are about 10 years gone.
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Post by terriblerhino on Jul 28, 2007 19:56:10 GMT -5
Oh please, the Frankensteiner is whatever the hell Steiner wants it to be
If anything, it\'s a super Frankensteiner.
Thats like saying a top rope RKO is not an RKO because Orton doesnt jump when he does it.
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Post by Aceorton on Jul 28, 2007 20:03:55 GMT -5
Oh please, the Frankensteiner is whatever the hell Steiner wants it to be If anything, it\'s a super Frankensteiner. Thats like saying a top rope RKO is not an RKO because Orton doesnt jump when he does it. Regular hurricanranas existed long before Scott Steiner. The Frankensteiner was a specific move, done in a specific way, by him. It was his signature move. And sorry, but the move on this video isn't it. When Cena is no longer physically able to do the FU, maybe he can do a fireman's carry from his knees and you can still call it an FU.
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Post by terriblerhino on Jul 28, 2007 20:07:47 GMT -5
I do not think Steiner ever sat there and said what exactly the frankensteiner was
It always seemed like ((to me) that it was just a hurricanrana (and a frankensteiner when Steiner did it)
I bring up my RKO example.
An RKO is done when Orton jumps and grabs his opponents head with one arm but he did not jump when he did the super RKO. He just hit a diamond cutter with one arm.
Is it still not an RKO?
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Post by emoney3265 on Jul 28, 2007 20:11:18 GMT -5
Frankensteiner = Hurricana done by Steiner
RKO = Ace Crusher done by Randy Orton
I rest my case.
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Post by Rube on Jul 28, 2007 20:12:17 GMT -5
I'M NOT GONNA CALL IT A HURRICANRANA, FORGETCHU! THAT'S A FRANKENSTEINER. MY GOD!
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Post by terriblerhino on Jul 28, 2007 20:14:07 GMT -5
Frankensteiner = Hurricana done by Steiner RKO = Ace Crusher done by Randy Orton I rest my case. Exactly Only difference with the RKO is he jumps and uses one arm.
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Post by Tha Kid Joker on Jul 28, 2007 20:14:39 GMT -5
Hm... you can thank me later.
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Post by Aceorton on Jul 28, 2007 20:31:56 GMT -5
I do not think Steiner ever sat there and said what exactly the frankensteiner was It always seemed like ((to me) that it was just a hurricanrana (and a frankensteiner when Steiner did it) I bring up my RKO example. An RKO is done when Orton jumps and grabs his opponents head with one arm but he did not jump when he did the super RKO. He just hit a diamond cutter with one arm. Is it still not an RKO? The fundamental difference here is the running, and the jumping flat-footed from the ground to hit the move. A Frankensteiner is about timing: the opponent comes to you on a bounce, and you leap to catch him. It's incredibly more complicated, for safety and for timing, than a standard-issue hurricanrana from the second turnbuckle where the opponent isn't moving full-speed at you and there's a lot more room before you hit the ground. Think of it this way: A Frankensteiner is a type of hurricanrana. But only one type of hurricanrana is a Frankensteiner.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 28, 2007 20:34:29 GMT -5
I seem to remember him doing top rope hurricanranas wile in WCW/NWA and them being called Frankensteiners.
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Post by terriblerhino on Jul 28, 2007 20:35:54 GMT -5
I seem to remember him doing top rope hurricanranas wile in WCW/NWA and them being called Frankensteiners. There ya go It is just a super frankensteiner
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Post by Aceorton on Jul 28, 2007 20:37:34 GMT -5
I seem to remember him doing top rope hurricanranas wile in WCW/NWA and them being called Frankensteiners. There ya go It is just a super frankensteiner What would really be super is if Steiner could pull off a regular one.
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Post by terriblerhino on Jul 28, 2007 20:49:21 GMT -5
Probably.
I just think its sorta dumb to say its not a frankensteiner when all its ever been is a hurricanrana with Steiner doing it (No offense to you) thats just how I see it.
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Post by Aceorton on Jul 28, 2007 22:43:20 GMT -5
What I think happened is that the Frankensteiner used to be just the jump-and-grab version off the ropes. It ended matches. No other wrestler did it. Then Steiner busts out the occasional second-turnbuckle hurricanrana, and Jim Ross calls that a Frankensteiner also, because it gives the commentators another opportunity to say the name.
In the mid- to late-'90s, Steiner's upper body swells and his legs break down to the point where he could never do the original Frankensteiner again if his life depended on it. So now what we're left with is "The Frankensteiner" -- this thing in the video that every cruiserweight in the industry uses.
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Post by MetalGearDizzle on Jul 28, 2007 23:38:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the GIF, and I don't care what it's called, it still kicked ass.
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Post by Kenny Brockelstein on Jul 29, 2007 6:16:06 GMT -5
God I absolutely hate TNA commentary, that video just encapsulated it. "I'm not gonna call it a huracanrana, forget you. That's a frankensteiner, MY GOD!!"
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Jul 29, 2007 9:18:58 GMT -5
Frankensteiner = Hurricana done by Steiner RKO = Ace Crusher done by Randy Orton I rest my case. agreed. and who gives a fk what we should call that time when he did the move.....it's amazing someone his age can do that at that level. all injuries considered.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Jul 29, 2007 10:37:28 GMT -5
I knew the top-rope hurracanrana as a Frankensteiner before I knew it as anything else, frankly.
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