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Post by Legion on Nov 1, 2007 15:40:07 GMT -5
You see this is the difference between UK and US tv. We get half seasons as full seasons of homegrown shows. So a UK show wouldnt face these sorts of problems, hence why i didnt realise they wrote shows like that.
What exactly is the writers problem anyway? Is it just them wanting more money or what?
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 1, 2007 15:42:44 GMT -5
The writers want more of a share of proceeds from shows appearing on DVD, mobile phones and the Internet. The studios argue that if they pay the writers more, they'll have to pay the actors and other staff more as well.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 1, 2007 15:47:15 GMT -5
The current DVD formula helps studios maintain profitability.
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Post by Tyfo on Nov 1, 2007 15:53:57 GMT -5
Since I dont watch any current tv series, I could care less if theres a writer strike or not.
I hope there is, I would love to see Raw on NBC. It could really help possibly widen their audience moving forward. If nothing else, it would probably shoot ratings up, if only for a little while.
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Post by Legion on Nov 1, 2007 15:54:55 GMT -5
Ah, so it is just a bunch of greedy writers. They get paid for what they do, then that's it. You shouldnt get special payments beyond that. It sets a stupid precedent that would only drive up dvd prices.
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 1, 2007 15:56:55 GMT -5
I read a bit more into it - there may not be a strike until the Screen Actors Guild and the Directors Guild's contracts expire in mid-2008, when the writers will then get the actors and directors to join them.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 1, 2007 15:57:12 GMT -5
The current DVD formula helps studios maintain profitability. I think studios are so weary because movies/tv shows cost so much more nowadays (these days the average movie budget is $90,000,000), so if they start giving writers more money they'll make even less cash.
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Post by tonyexile on Nov 1, 2007 15:58:34 GMT -5
I don't watch much on normal tv, so this is alright by me.
I'd love to see Raw get a bit more successful.
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Post by Double Chickenwing w/ Bridge on Nov 1, 2007 15:58:51 GMT -5
The strike will be effective on Friday Nov 2. It affected sitcoms only if they haven't finished writing the season or if they need rewrites. This potential strike could be very devestating to both the movie and tv industries, let alone us nobodies trying to make a living through it.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 1, 2007 16:02:36 GMT -5
The strike will be effective on Friday Nov 2. It affected sitcoms only if they haven't finished writing the season or if they need rewrites. This potential strike could be very devestating to both the movie and tv industries, let alone us nobodies trying to make a living through it. Unless if the strike somehow lasts 2 years, I doubt it will do much the film industry. They already have lots of scripts stockpiled. TV shows are written in a much more immediate manner than movies and will be hit much harder.
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Post by kswolf on Nov 1, 2007 16:03:28 GMT -5
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Post by Legion on Nov 1, 2007 16:52:44 GMT -5
Obviously we cant really debate this, as we aren't allowed to do politics and such. But, I cant let it go without saying something and because i feel this is an issue worth at least talking about somewhat. It seems to be, as i've said throughout the thread, that all this is going to cause problems and it's all because people want to make more money. Now, although there is nothing wrong with wanting to make more money, i cant really support these writers who are paid generally quite well if the show is successful wanting more money from dvd profit. They get paid for a job, they do the job.
I'm a teacher, this is akin to me saying that i got a pupil a certain grade so i deserve some of the money they make from the jobs said grades open up for them. Thing is, i dont. Obviously i got paid for teaching them and am happy they did well. Here, the writers have been happy and rather than be happy their shows are succeeding, they risk losing them by striking over money they aren't really entitled to get.
Now that my mini rant is out of the way, should NBC go with Raw at prime time, then i dont see Jericho debuting until the first episode on NBC so that they can debut with a bang and maximise the extra viewers etc.
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Post by kitsunestar on Nov 1, 2007 16:56:06 GMT -5
Surely the writers strike wont effect this season of heroes anyway? How does that work? Surely they have a decent stock of them already filmed/written? I mean, i like Raw and all, obviously as im here, but Heroes is the best damn show on tv and i certainly don't want it held up by a bunch of greedy pinko commie writers or replaced, even with WWE. Surely, you meant to say "House is the best damn show on TV."
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 1, 2007 16:56:16 GMT -5
Guys, I've decided to go scab and write every TV show during the strike, so, sorry, no Raw on NBC.
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Post by Legion on Nov 1, 2007 16:58:16 GMT -5
Lol, of course, scabs may yet save a bunch of shows.
That or mexican counterparts. Maybe Senior Spielburgo can point producers in the right direction
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 1, 2007 16:59:02 GMT -5
I do think this will have a far reaching affect. A lot of that audience just won't come back. Once you get out of the habit of watching a show it's difficult to get back into it. Which won't do the writers any favours either.
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Post by theoriginalredcap on Nov 1, 2007 17:02:20 GMT -5
Ah, so it is just a bunch of greedy writers. They get paid for what they do, then that's it. You shouldnt get special payments beyond that. It sets a stupid precedent that would only drive up dvd prices. do your research mate. they get a miniscule amount and considering they are the major creative force in film / tv alongside the director they deserve more credit. they are fighting for a fairer share of the pie, not trying to raise prices. what would happen if there were no writers? there are no shows, as the strike will prove.
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Post by sexualvanilla on Nov 1, 2007 17:08:23 GMT -5
I will be pissed if Raw substitutes for Heroes. Although I'm fine with Raw and all, Heroes is what I watch on the 9-10pm timeslot and presents far more compelling television. And I can sympathize with the writers as I am one, and their prestige and money-making opportunities are very much low on the totem pole
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Post by Legion on Nov 1, 2007 17:11:11 GMT -5
Ah, so it is just a bunch of greedy writers. They get paid for what they do, then that's it. You shouldnt get special payments beyond that. It sets a stupid precedent that would only drive up dvd prices. do your research mate. they get a miniscule amount and considering they are the major creative force in film / tv alongside the director they deserve more credit. they are fighting for a fairer share of the pie, not trying to raise prices. what would happen if there were no writers? there are no shows, as the strike will prove. No, if your show is successful you get paid more. Thus you get a reward for writing a good show. If your show is rubbish but has a small cult following and thus sales well on dvd, those dvds will a) be expensive as studios wont want to lose out on the profits they are now used to and b) a reward for writing that didnt manage to really break through. Not to mention how smaller, independent companies who put out cheapo but occassionally enjoyable films wouldnt be able to operate if they lost a share of dvd sales to writers. Plus of course, once you grant writers a share of dvd profits, the actors will want the same thing and so you set a precedent. On top of this of course is sometimes you come across a film that is filmed, directed and acted really well, enough to make you want the film, even though the script may be lacklustre and poor. Why should a writer get a reward there? Now, at best, successful writers should be able to broker a deal into their contracts of employment that claim they can have a share of merchandise, which if they are good, a studio may consider.
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Post by CrazySting on Nov 1, 2007 17:38:52 GMT -5
I have to take the studios point here: if they do this, then actors will want it too. And in the end, it'll get so expensive there won't be as many movies/tv shows which means many people, including writers, won't be getting work.
I sympathise with the WGA, but in the end you have to look at the bigger picture.
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