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Post by bmfjules on Oct 4, 2019 11:54:11 GMT -5
Anderson and Gallows getting booked like goobers and getting paid like players.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 4, 2019 11:43:58 GMT -5
What are some examples of good to great wrestlers facing each other with consistently disappointing results? I'm not really talking about one offs here, as even Flair and Steamboat probably had to have an off night at some point (or maybe not) but basically wrestlers in a program with each other with consistently bad to mediocre results where you would expect instant classics on paper.
My first thought that always comes to mind is the series of matches between Ric Flair and Rick Rude. Two of my all time favorites that for whatever reason, mixed like oil and water.
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 3, 2019 12:05:43 GMT -5
How long ago has it been since Brock basically beat the entire New Day in a squash match in Japan?
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Post by bmfjules on Oct 2, 2019 11:35:00 GMT -5
Bobby and Stan are coming after those belts.
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Post by bmfjules on Sept 18, 2019 14:02:41 GMT -5
Summarize Jack Swagger's WWE career for me. I missed his entire run. Someone started to build Sheamus on SD vs Raw CAW but gave up halfway through and left the rest generic.
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Post by bmfjules on Sept 17, 2019 13:57:29 GMT -5
Maria's baby must never be allowed to go back and watch these shows.
Well, nobody should ever be allowed to go back and watch these shows now that I think of it.
So there's that.
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Post by bmfjules on Sept 17, 2019 12:03:11 GMT -5
First Raw I've bothered with in a few months now I believe.
I know I'm overthinking this, but WWE's booking is strange sometimes... or Heyman's booking in this case or whoever.
The Revival and Roode/Ziggler, the two respective tag team champion teams, get decimated by Braun with little to no effort.
Then Roode, 1/4th of the group that was laid waste by a single man, has a competitive match with Rollins, the champion of the world at wrestling supposedly.
Then Rollins gets attacked by 5 guys and is pummeled, until Kane, a guy who just got pinned by R-Truth moments before, runs out and takes out all five guys as easy as Braun took out the previous group (bad night for Ziggler and Roode)then a guy in a clown mask shows up and force gags the Demon Mayor to sleep and picks the bones of the laid out world champion.
What I learned is everyone on this show is the shits at fighting except for people in masks and tall guys with beards.
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Post by bmfjules on Sept 16, 2019 22:03:47 GMT -5
Jerry Lawler has been wrestling for almost 50 years now. Of course these days, he mostly seems to just do indy matches for the fun of it, but he still spent plenty of time as a big deal. Jericho has already been mentioned, almost 30 years and has spent most of that time being relevant and a top player in some form or another. Can't forget Dustin Runnels/Rhodes. Debuted in 1988, just had one of the most acclaimed matches of the year. Ah, Lawler. He definitely may be the overall winner. I'm curious how many years it has been since Jerry could be considered as one of the top workers in the world though? I should have worded that better. Not saying Rey has had a longer career than anyone in history but most number of years as a top tier wrestler/worker perhaps. Rhodes if anything has gotten better since his younger years. He wins this for a straight up comparison of years too, but his quality fluctuated alot until he seemingly found the fountain of youth and got consistently more incredible every year for the past 10 or so.
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Post by bmfjules on Sept 16, 2019 21:54:01 GMT -5
Both Jushin Liger and Keiji Mutoh debuted for New Japan in 1984 and are still going today. Granted, Liger is about to retire in a few months, but both are some of the biggest stars in the history of puro. Villano III debuted in 1970, and officially retired in 2015, though he still had a few matches afterward. Except for Liger I am not overly familiar with the later years of those guys. (I absolutely need to catch up on post 2000 Muta. ) So this isn't a dig, just a question, since I think you could drop Rey with the right storyline into the Wrestlemania main event or Tokyo Dome main event and he'd be totally fine while some guys who have been going 30 plus years would be good for a battle royal appearance or a six man tag but not much else... where would you rank those three along those terms?
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Post by bmfjules on Sept 16, 2019 21:20:10 GMT -5
Damn. By a whole decade too. I admit I had to google.
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Post by bmfjules on Sept 16, 2019 21:15:00 GMT -5
Just curious and thought I'd ask on here.
Dude is a 30 year pro. Debuted in 1989 at age 14, still going strong.
At least half of those years he has been a contender for top 10 workers in the world and except maybe for when he was uber green he has never been bad in any shape or form, so who in the modern or classic era can match his career in terms of number of years with a similar number of years at that high a level of work?
I realize the title of this thread will also draw height jokes. I welcome those too, I guess.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 29, 2019 18:01:51 GMT -5
Straight edge, round ass.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 27, 2019 16:55:09 GMT -5
Would you say he was Sheamus-esque then? That's a pretty apt approximation, yeah. It almost works, but to me, Sheamus never rose as high as Luger and Luger likewise never fell as low as Sheamus, except maybe near the end of his career from 2000 onward.
Luger was always seen as a main event top guy who was in contention for the world title. If you weren't watching WWE during one of Sheamus' pushes, you'd never know he was anything more than a mid-carder with a brawling gimmick/tag team specialist type.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 25, 2019 15:34:13 GMT -5
Happy Birthday has to be up there.
Edit - misread the question. Would have to be a band that has been around for a while and consistently touring.
So some early hit by the Rolling Stones would be a strong contender.
Or perhaps a Bruce Springsteen song, even though the Stones have a decade on him I believe his tours have been more frequent and longer.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 22, 2019 10:49:35 GMT -5
He does look like a cutout there due to his expression not changing, but if you watch real close, you can see his body moving. Well, Flair spins around to face the camera and then stands perfectly still all in one, unedited shot. So at no point could Flair have literally been replaced by a cardboard cutout without us seeing the switch. I imagine that the OP was exaggerating for comedic effect, but I'm not sure. I watched this on my phone, and at first, I was fully convinced that someone indeed put in a cardboard cutout. It's only watching this fullscreen on my iMac that I see it was indeed Naitch the whole time. Now we know from whom Batista learned to stand so perfectly still.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 22, 2019 9:57:39 GMT -5
5. Austin Aries 4. Kevin Steen 3. Nigel McGuinness 2. Bryan Danielson 1. Samoa Joe
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 21, 2019 19:40:42 GMT -5
I can't deal with this right now.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 21, 2019 17:09:11 GMT -5
A comedy heel stable of Polish work-for-hire. They'd come to the ring in a white van as a different labour job each week. Whether it's builders, car washers, plumbers etc. Have their own version of the Freebird rule where as many members of the stable as is needed to win are allowed to compete in title matches at the same time.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 20, 2019 11:32:39 GMT -5
The thing is, they don't need an Arn Anderson--they've got three of them already. They need a Ric Flair. Trouble is, we're running a little low on those right now. AJ Styles could always kick Gallows and Anderson to the curb, then reprise his role as "Nature Boy AJ Styles" from 2010. Though he really shouldn't. I don't know if this is better or worse than my idea. John Cena, repackaged as a basic wrestler, but with a flashy Flair Robe etc... On his quest to break Flair's title record he forms his own horsemen stable.
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Post by bmfjules on Aug 20, 2019 9:47:53 GMT -5
Inspired by the typo in the AEW on TNT thread.
Wrestling Cab Driver
Name: Cab Calloway
Before the match he starts the meter, which runs in the lower right corner of the TV.
Carries a four way wrench as his gimmick. Finisher would be called Death and Taxies.
In my head I'm picturing the Ghost of Christmas past from Scrooged, but with less ghoul makeup.
Arch rival would be the german villain Uber Von Lyft.
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