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Post by Powerline on Sept 14, 2016 12:55:20 GMT -5
I always forget Brock's run was that fast. I always tend to remember him tearing through the lower-midcard for awhile before making a dent in the main event scene. Maybe too many other beasts have come through that way and messed my memories up. Thought that said fattest at first and was like, "Wait what?" Well then Yokozuna would've won that for sure, like the first posts were suggesting.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 13, 2016 12:56:48 GMT -5
They'll slowly ease him back in. A reference here and there isn't much to hang an "everything's patched up" argument on. To ignore Hulk Hogan in the history books is to ignore the single biggest entity the company has ever had. I don't know if they'll have him back on TV anytime soon (unless the ratings and money start to tank), but they're gonna start acknowledging him more and more as time goes on.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 13, 2016 12:50:05 GMT -5
Apparently it's whoever the hell "Badaboom" is.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 13, 2016 11:45:40 GMT -5
I think I'm out of it this week unless Antonio comes through with a monster game (never out of the realm of possibility). Yeah, I was on the other side of that thinking "Up 30...and now I just have to worry about Antonio Brown.......who could easily hit 30 with a normal game, and if he adds on a long catch and a couple TDs..............oh no.....". And now I'm holding my breath for the point revisions, to see if they change anything. We've had close games reversed on those, and our matchup is certainly close. For anyone new, the point revisions come from any stat changes the NFL issues. It usually only changes maybe 0.5 points tops, and often there's none in a week (or it's issued to a player that is a free agent). It's only worth worrying about if you have a game as close as me and Gareth had (which was decided by 0.44 points).
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Post by Powerline on Sept 12, 2016 11:51:35 GMT -5
The internet might love Owens and AJ (and rightfully so), but Punk and Bryan were both indie messiahs. I am surprised Eddie and Benoit aren't getting more love, as they are the first 2 guys the IWC fell in love with.I think I feel like part of that is most people (even most in the IWC) only followed Eddie and Benoit from WCW onward, or ECW for the people with access to it when they were there. Not many were hyping them up when they were doing Japan and territories and whatnot. Punk and Danielson, we all got to see them early. Punk and Bryan were well documented from their entirety in RoH to developmental to WWE. A large part of the audience "grew up" with them, for lack of a better term. I'm not saying people didn't do that with Guerrero/Benoit, but that number is much smaller than the people who followed Punk/Bryan early on. That having been said, I agree, it surprises me they aren't getting more votes.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 12, 2016 11:37:08 GMT -5
The internet might love Owens and AJ (and rightfully so), but Punk and Bryan were both indie messiahs.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 9, 2016 23:04:54 GMT -5
Saw these on my Facebook timeline this morning and have watched them over and over. It's only week 1, and I'll bet with confidence no Super Bowl ad tops this.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 9, 2016 11:44:43 GMT -5
Hoax Hotel on YouTube is one of my favorite channels. He messes with scammers all the time along with giving details about how "if it's really [X], then they will do/won't do...". On his Twitter account he also RT's any numbers people send him as being scams (and will actually check them himself to confirm they aren't masking their real number with a legit business or if the person tweeting him isn't trolling with someone's personal number or a legit business).
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Post by Powerline on Sept 9, 2016 11:29:16 GMT -5
No surprise to me. They've done nothing but fumble the ball on his return. He's still mega-talented and, unless he was truly a dickwad backstage, it made no sense for the WWE to undervalue him so much.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 8, 2016 22:30:06 GMT -5
I care quite a bit. I don't grade people harshly based on it, like "you need to be able to have a four-star match on command or you don't belong on the main roster", but I've got a rep on the forum (and not a good one) for being the guy that's like "Chris Jericho?!? When was the last memorable match he had?" "Miz in the world title scene?!? He hasn't had a good PPV match in YEARS and now off ONE good promo and a 4-way with 3 people in a whole other league than him, he belongs?!?" and so on.
It's the culmination of a feud, of promos and storylines. It all leads to a match. And I often don't care if it's just OK (though it bothers me when people talk up someone who IMO has had many "just OK matches"), but it can't be "bad". A "bad" PPV match (barring unforeseen circumstances such as an injury or a botched gimmick that's out of the wrestler's hands) is completely unacceptable to me, and anyone who thinks a "bad" PPV match is no big deal or harmless is someone I don't even wanna start discussing wrestling with. A "cool down match" is acceptable, but "cool down match" and "bad match" are not synonymous.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 8, 2016 4:13:14 GMT -5
I think there's a tangled web. On some level, being able to poach some of that talent they got from WWE was a big deal, especially Angle and Christian. But yes, you gotta find a way to use them wisely that doesn't involve pushing your longer-served roster under the rug. There's a balance you gotta strike. And many major wrestling companies seem to have more moments of getting it wrong than right. The WCW pretty much bent at the will of Hogan, especially with the NWO, which in turn allowed Hall and Nash to carve out whatever slice they wanted without anyone telling them no. They ALMOST had it with the Sting/Hogan storyline where the homegrown talent was gonna prevail, but, nope. WWE, on the other hand, is guilty of the other extreme of making aquired talent look like trash before they look like gold. I'm not sure that's ever their philosophy, but MAN did they put Jericho and Booker T through the ringer before they made them look like serious contenders. And those are just two examples that survived. How many people came over from the Invasion angle that never even got remotely close to the position they were in WCW? They are better with it when it comes to TNA/RoH people for the most part, but they're as guilty as anyone.
You can't hire people you've poached from elsewhere and treat them like gods, and you can't just decide "this is as far as we'll let them go, and there's plenty above that line that they'll never ever get to because we gotta make OUR GUYS look good" either. There has to be a balance.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 8, 2016 3:50:15 GMT -5
Chris Benoit is here and he's really mad Chris Benoit is here and he's really an-gry I remember telling a friend of mine about that segment. For years he didn't believe me (for some reason, I'm not sure exactly why he thought it never did, but...). But shortly after the murder/suicide, the only upload of that promo got pulled from YouTube and it was about 2-3 years before it came back up (or at least, an easy-to-find, "don't have to sift through longer vids hoping it's there" video). So during that pocket of time, he just insisted the promo never happened and I had no way to prove it did.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 8, 2016 0:51:30 GMT -5
I always imagined Roman Reigns was the type of guy that rode Harley Davidson's and had the cool vests and chains and all, and instead of Roman Reigns they all just called him "Hellmut" But then by day, "Hellmut" would train at a culinary institute. So he'd be a hell of a chef, but nobody in his chapter of the Hell's Angels would have any idea. They all just thought he sat at home and worked on his bike, but no, he's learning how to cook croquettes and pasta and shit. Cause he dreams of cooking at a fine dining establishment, eventually opening his own restaurant on the Las Vegas Strip and earning a Michelin Star, but since he lives in the minimum wage housing he can't really, ya know, afford all that stuff. So that's why he turned to the motorcycle gang stuff and became "Hellmut", so he could get the money and the funds to realize his culinary dream. And it's one of those things where, like, you get it; he's doing whatever the hell he has to do to make his dream a reality, but yet he isn't exactly "earning" any of that stuff. He's still a common crook and a thief, but with this underbelly desire to become so much more.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 7, 2016 23:49:50 GMT -5
Never ordered just pop, but I have been feeling like having a pop and then thinking "...eh, it's close to dinner time, I have the money" and then getting pizza and just knocking them both out.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 7, 2016 23:36:59 GMT -5
Not rap, but the two Michelle Branch songs with Carlos Santana are alright because of Carlos Santana and in spite of Michelle Branch.
That was just on my mind because they play both of those songs at work, and I can only get through them because of Santana.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 6, 2016 5:37:40 GMT -5
Hey, why not? I mean, if he truly has slammed the door shut on WWE for the time being, then this or Japan was always gonna be the next move.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 6, 2016 5:31:04 GMT -5
I do have to say I do think current Raw would still be outright bad even if two hours. There's a reason why SmackDown the crowd can stay hot the entire time but Raw they usually die an hour in and stay that way and it's not fatigue for a third hour that hasn't happened yet. That's exactly where I stand on it too. To answer the question, would it be THIS bad at 2 hours? No. Would it improve the quality of the show to any major extent? No. I mean, hell, we were having more than just a few horrible Raws before it went to 3 hours. It would be a start, but to say going back to two hours would fix everything is like saying going back to TV-14 would fix everything. The only difference being you can write a good PG wrestling show consistently, I'm not sold that a 3-hour weekly wrestling show can be consistently good and not exhausting (especially not the way WWE has done their wrestling shows in the last decade+). But even then, it's the same writers writing the same promos for the same wrestlers, the same philosophies, the same disconnect, the same idea of how to get people over (only wrestlers doubling as comedy acts being the ones that get any decent reactions, with Sasha Banks and Seth Rollins being the only clear exceptions to the rule). It would be a step in the right direction as far as show quality is concerned (obviously ignoring the sponsorships), but it would just be a step. Maybe it's just my differing opinion on WWE compared to a lot of people, but the company (and Raw in particular) needs to change its philosophy on things in general. Just the way things are conducted feels so dated and stale, and they seem hellbent on pushing the pedal down more as opposed to stepping back and realizing more of the same shit that doesn't work isn't going to make the same shit work.
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Post by Powerline on Sept 6, 2016 0:44:32 GMT -5
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Post by Powerline on Sept 5, 2016 0:29:51 GMT -5
This was always one of those "fever dream" moments for me; I used to only be able to watch the recap shows at my grandparents' house (in another room) on Saturday mornings, so I remember only some of this in passing. But I remember it being hyped up on Livewire and Shotgun Challenge (the previous week's Shotgun Saturday Night matches with current recaps that aired in the afternoon), and it always just seemed weird.
See, I was a young enough kid at the time to still think pro wrestling, for the most part, was real (it also helped I knew very little about wrestling history, so I never knew many of the characters that couldn't possibly be a shoot). And this was the first time I watched it and began to REALLY believe it was all bullshit. It made no sense to me how pro wrestlers, who could take ALL this punishment and all of these slams and punches and high-flying moves could suddenly be taken out by a couple lucky punches. I knew of MMA, but always thought "well, they're boxers and karate experts, they're not wrestlers". But then here comes the BfA with wrestlers doing (essentially) MMA and suddenly being KO'd by these normal moves when they'd have matches where they'd be conscious within two seconds of taking a chair to the back of the head.
I know pro wrestling pretty much jumps the line between kayfabe and shoot like a jump rope, but this just hurts the credibility of your own damn product and the people involved in it. Why bother hurting your product like that? What benefit could you have possibly profited on?
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Post by Powerline on Sept 5, 2016 0:16:01 GMT -5
It's obviously not THE reason, but I always wondered what Cabana thought about Punk slamming pro wrestling in his UFC interviews when Cabana has that high level of respect for it. There is a part of me that thinks they'd agree to disagree, but Cabana has such a respect for the industry and the people in it. He had all these memories with Punk that would never have happened without pro wrestling, a friendship that literally would not exist without pro wrestling; that's how they met, that's how they bonded, they would ride together and have enough stories to fill a library all because of wrestling and it's still Cabana's way of making a living be it in the ring or on the podcast mic...and then Punk just shits on the entire industry the first chance he's out because he had a bad experience with the biggest game in town.
I am kinda surprised everyone thinks Punk has become more cold and mean. Like, have you read the dude's Twitter when he was in WWE? Dude was talented as all hell on the mic and in the ring, but damn did he seem like a total dick. Anytime I heard his podcast with Cabana, I was conflicted. There's two sides to every story, obviously. But if that was what was really going on, regardless of who it was happening to, that is messed up, On the same token, Punk could have easily been full of shit about this and that and the other thing, and back then nobody would question it because he was an icon in the industry (or at least, it seemed to me like very few questioned it). Now...man, I don't wanna straight-up call him a liar, but his story seems to have many more questions than it did when he told it.
Does anyone know if Cabana has said anything about Punk on the podcast recently or in passing? The last one I listened to of his was the Punk Q&A after the initial interview.
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