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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 26, 2015 15:57:59 GMT -5
Remember that old sitcom in the 60's about World War II? I think it was called "'s Heroes"
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 25, 2015 1:18:40 GMT -5
He loved to love em He loved to kick em He loved to shove em And he loved to stick em
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 24, 2015 20:31:11 GMT -5
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 24, 2015 15:06:06 GMT -5
You're joking, right? Outside of Hulk advocating for genocide, how could it be worse? I dunno I expected something more general, it seems to me this was during Hogan's period of time when he was at his lowest and was probably just pissed off at the world and hated everyone. Not saying it excuses it or anything, but I expected something like recent, not 7 years ago. He's even talked about the N word since then and how he used to say it because people called him it all the time. Again not DEFENDING Hogan, just saying I expected it to be worse.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 24, 2015 14:34:32 GMT -5
Meh, I expected worse
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 24, 2015 3:20:58 GMT -5
Who the f*** is this guy? I haven't seen him on WWE tv at all. He looks familiar but he's definitely not a current WWE guy
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 24, 2015 1:37:16 GMT -5
If this means someone has footage of Hulk Hogan saying "That's okay, I'm a good n****" after Booker's blooper in WCW, I will not necessarily be unhappy.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 23, 2015 23:00:30 GMT -5
"Aww did somebody not get what they wanted?"
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 23, 2015 21:10:37 GMT -5
Honky Tonk Man was apparently champion for so long because he refused to drop the belt on tv on the grounds that it would hurt his character and he'd just leave for WCW if they tried to make him do it (while still champion). I think eventually Vince just said "f*** it"
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 22, 2015 2:38:45 GMT -5
I'm not gonna lie, part of me was expecting this to turn into John Cena gave the kid one of his kidneys while watching this, and I'm not sure if that would have been surprising or not.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 22, 2015 1:46:09 GMT -5
Let's see, I want to quantify the difference between bad, meh, and unmemorable. I think some reigns weren't necessarily bad, but nothing all that interesting happened during them. Those probably fall under unmemorable and meh. So off the top of my head:
JBL and Seth Rollins are the two that keep standing out to me. JBL was just bad from top to bottom, Rollins on the other hand has turned me off of the product entirely.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 20:48:53 GMT -5
I still maintain that the general audience is turned off of the whole product as long as Rollins is champion. I don't really see how Rollins can be blamed for anything. Before he won the title, Raw's ratings were quite bad for Wrestlemania season and Rollins was in like the 5th most important match. Raw in March averaged about 4.25 million viewers leading up to WrestleMania. Not great there, but certainly not like the numbers are here. It goes back to something Jim Cornette once said. Now I don't agree with him on a lot of things and don't fully agree with what he said here, but part of what he said makes sense. He said when your main event scene is hot, there's a trickle down effect that causes fans to pay attention to everything. He says you can book whatever as long as the main event is hot and it'll be looked at. Now I don't agree completely, but again there's something to that in the opposite sense. If what you have at the top isn't interesting, it becomes hard to care about the other stuff since it's supposed to be not as important. Rollins as champion has been such a flop that the entire show surrounding him becomes boring since he's the focus of the show and isn't doing a good job. The fact that Lesnar came back to kill Rollins and ratings didn't budge at all should tell you how little people care about Rollins because they should hypothetically want to see him get beat up.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 18:43:48 GMT -5
I still maintain that the general audience is turned off of the whole product as long as Rollins is champion.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 16:37:03 GMT -5
It was done like once many years ago, then it started up again this year. And like all other weird chants, it unfortunately seems to have stuck. I don't really care for it compared to say "New Day sucks"
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 3:28:52 GMT -5
The Authority forces Cena to vacate the title if he wants to face Rollins at SummerSlam. The vacant title is put up for grabs between Kevin Owens and Cesaro.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 3:27:00 GMT -5
I really wish WWE could get Bram from TNA and stick him with the Family (Wyatts makes no sense, there is one Wyatt and he has two family members). Let him be the monster in the closet that Bray was even fearful of using because of the destruction he brings. Maybe send Christian back in a trade. I mean they had Bram and then let him go because he got arrested and lied about it or something. Naturally TNA was like "What?! Kenneth Cameron is available?! Sign him now!"
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 2:10:04 GMT -5
But again, there's no one available because everyone has either feuded with Rollins or is already booked in another feud. Ambrose and Orton are automatically out of the picture due to how often they've faced Rollins. Ryback is the IC Champion who still has to face Big Show. Ziggler is off filming a movie but is also feuding with Rusev. It's not as if there aren't faces, they're just all busy. Reigns could have worked but it appears that they want to wait to give him the title now and Rollins is more likely than not in my opinion losing at SummerSlam. And to the person that said Triple H, that requires either Triple H or Rollins to turn face, neither of which make much sense.It's been hinted at for a while now with the Triple H/Rollins interactions and I'm sure it's been reported as being in the making for months now. It's just a matter of when it'll happen. So far, it seems you're stuck on who's actually being booked for other angles when we've seen numerous times, again Bryan, that you can insert someone against the champion during a random time and it would work. The problem here isn't with how Rollins is portrayed given anyone upper midcard can contend with him, the only problem is who the company can put against him. You're saying that Reigns could have worked and yet he's still in the Wyatt feud and yet you go on to say that Ryback can't do it because of the Big Show match, Ziggler is in the Rusev match and everyone else is busy. That's hypocrisy. All of those guys are lined up and some people even say that Cena was still in the Owens feud before Cena showed up tonight, some say he still is. Reigns of all people has faced Rollins 6 times on screen, although none of them were for the title, they've faced each other 6 different times and that's not counting the tag or handicapped or even dark matches. That match isn't as fresh as it would be with some of these other dudes. It's easy for the company to put other guys in the spot to go against Rollins other than Cena here. They just picked Cena. Personally though, Triple H is the best possible option IMO. There's none better from what we've seen. I said Reigns could have worked had he actually beaten Wyatt last night and moved on, but they seem to not want to give him the title yet/want other guys to take some of the load off of you know who. I actually thought Reigns was gonna beat Wyatt and face Rollins at SummerSlam myself once The Undertaker rumors happened. But outside of that, I don't see anything based on what's happened in the last few months of WWE that would make much sense, so at least with Cena you have the "I've been a real champion and you've been a weasel" kind of feud to do. This also would get the US Title off of Cena so Owens and Cesaro can feud over it.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 2:04:39 GMT -5
That doesn't change the fact that Seth Rollins has been a complete douchebag sellout for the last year who's been a dick to everyone, including his own associates. This is true, but they have turned people face who were being jerkasses before, look at Orton, who was getting cheered while threatening to RKO multiple grandmas. Besides, what better way to make people cheer someone than putting him up against Triple H in HyperShovel Mode? Triple H would be the one getting cheered considering people have been waiting for Rollins to get his butt kicked and people still sorta like Triple H.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 1:53:08 GMT -5
But again, there's no one available because everyone has either feuded with Rollins or is already booked in another feud. Ambrose and Orton are automatically out of the picture due to how often they've faced Rollins. Ryback is the IC Champion who still has to face Big Show. Ziggler is off filming a movie but is also feuding with Rusev. It's not as if there aren't faces, they're just all busy. Reigns could have worked but it appears that they want to wait to give him the title now and Rollins is more likely than not in my opinion losing at SummerSlam. And to the person that said Triple H, that requires either Triple H or Rollins to turn face, neither of which make much sense. Ahem. Triple H names himself number one contender, reveals he has been protecting Rollins for the same reason he drafted him from the Shield to the Authority in the first place, not because he was the architect, but the weak link in the Shield, and he wanted a champion he could control like a puppet until he was no longer of use. After watching Rollins get destroyed by Lesnar, Trips has decided it's time to pull the plug and put the title around the waist of the only man Hunter can trust, himself. Because a weak willed, malleable, pathetic loser like Seth Rollins is no match for The Game, The King of Kings, The Conqueror, The DIAMOND IN THIS BUSINESS, TRIPLE H!!!!! Just that simple. That doesn't change the fact that Seth Rollins has been a complete douchebag sellout for the last year who's been a dick to everyone, including his own associates.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jul 21, 2015 1:36:04 GMT -5
Can I just propose this to everyone in here who thinks this is the end of the world? Who would you have face Rollins instead? Ambrose has faced him a million times. Orton has faced him a million times. Ryback is hurt and IC Champion. Reigns probably could have but they seem to want him against Wyatt due to (Spoiler). Ziggler is feuding with Rusev. Who does that leave? Cesaro? Prior to 3 weeks ago that guy was below every else I just listed and is probably better off facing Owens at SummerSlam (possibly for the vacant US Title). I'm not saying Cena is the ideal option, but I haven't seen anyone give any good alternatives that aren't Kane, and who the hell wants to see that instead? Your post answered your own question bolded above. There really aren't any real alternatives. And that is the point of the issue. They got little to no real legit contenders roaming around the world title picture. It's the same cycle of guys all usually over 35. It leads to the justifiable gripe of how they got themselves into this mess in the first place. The WWE is so fixated on trading wins that it sort of makes everyone look average. Ever notice that the MitB winner usually loses more once they win the briefcase? The thought process is this guy's got something, we got to make the guy who doesn't look strong too by beating the MitB winner. So they ultimately dilute their own talent base. This leads to them going back to the well once more because the fans don't take the new crop of potential stars as serious contenders. But again, there's no one available because everyone has either feuded with Rollins or is already booked in another feud. Ambrose and Orton are automatically out of the picture due to how often they've faced Rollins. Ryback is the IC Champion who still has to face Big Show. Ziggler is off filming a movie but is also feuding with Rusev. It's not as if there aren't faces, they're just all busy. Reigns could have worked but it appears that they want to wait to give him the title now and Rollins is more likely than not in my opinion losing at SummerSlam. And to the person that said Triple H, that requires either Triple H or Rollins to turn face, neither of which make much sense.
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