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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 2, 2015 6:50:20 GMT -5
Why don't the New Day have a JBL Show style show on WWEs channel?
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 2, 2015 4:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 2, 2015 4:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 2, 2015 0:20:06 GMT -5
It's going to be a long night at work until I can go home and watch this.
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 1, 2015 23:20:18 GMT -5
Hope he drops the US title back to Rollins before he goes at least. I enjoy his PPV matches (which I treat him like a heel in and root against him), but I can't say I'll miss him. It'll be a little refreshing. I think he's a good worker and decent promo, but he just rubs me the wrong way.
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 1, 2015 23:08:51 GMT -5
I don't really have much problem with Sting's run. I was ok with Triple H beating him because it was a good match with a nice finish. His second loss against Rollins was kinda painful, as it was a rough, damned if you do, damned if you don't booking decision. Sting lost and their critisized for burying Sting. Had he won the belt, they'd probably still get shit for not pushing the young talent.
But I still want to see Sting and be booked better. But, I justify it in that Sting can be successful anywhere and he won't be wanting for a living. If he really felt he was getting the shaft, he's in a position to refuse, I would assume.
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 1, 2015 18:31:07 GMT -5
I mean, they're bound to have some misses. It sounds like a Cena-ism, which isn't great. Hustle. Loyalty. BOOTY.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 30, 2015 7:23:29 GMT -5
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Dick Togo
Sept 30, 2015 7:18:28 GMT -5
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 30, 2015 7:18:28 GMT -5
His way of talking was so unbearable, he was Dick shunned.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 30, 2015 7:13:30 GMT -5
I find it interesting that she says Cena has zero pull when she also mentions AJ's promo. AJ and Punk have both said that the fallout from the promo was meant to be a much bigger story but then 'certain people complained', 'some weren't comfortable with it.' Suddenly, nothing really happens until Paige debuts. We could see how upset the Bellas were live. They tweeted some things way out of kayfabe in the aftermath of that promo and there are a few other points to consider. - Right after the promo, King exclaimed that 'Crazy just spoke some truth.' Cole and JBL agreed, looking impressed. The following weeks, Cole and JBL suggested that maybe AJ was just jealous and secretly wanted to be on Total Divas. - AJ was getting mic time almost weekly in her feuds with Kaitlyn and Ziggler. After the promo, she had like three or four quick backstage skits before dropping the title to Paige. No one spoke in the division for a while after that. WOW WOW WOW hold on Sir! Are you implyng that John Cena could...i mean...have some sort of a backstage political pull to maybe change the course of a kayfabe angle and protect his beloved one?? You cannot be serious, it is a well known fact on that forum that John Cena is a 100% virtuous person that reluctantly agrees to follow the dumb booking decisions of that senile old Vince Mc Mahon!! Plus he works for make a wish we should all agree that John Cena as a person could not be criticized. I'm profundly shocked by your allegations mister "Thefanboy"!!!
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 10:55:25 GMT -5
At least their color scheme matches. But do you think they'll switch to the DX green? Eva with a green outfit but bright red hair... Either Poison Ivy... or Mrs. Christmas Creature. I think I know how I'm going to book Eva Marie in my universe on 2K16.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 10:20:26 GMT -5
I HATE Eva Marie, the way I hated 2003 Triple H or John Cena. Its not, "What a heel!", it's "I do not like them as people and don't want to see them on TV". That said, I've said in another thread that the anarchist in me wants to see the glorious aftermath. What you've described is known as XPac heat. So the only resolution is to of course pair her with Kane and have them beat everyone. At least their color scheme matches.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 8:06:03 GMT -5
I'm more surprised that people are cool or at least not panicking with Dana Brooke possibly feuding with Bayley over the title. Months ago she was declared the worst thing ever and now Eva took the title from her until the next none indy cred woman gets a semblance of a push (Get ready for Nina Jax hate threads). All this breaks down into people wanting people with indy & international cred and deemed worthy to be in the spotlight and those who lack those quals be kept separated. Indirectly, people are calling for segregation of the roster. The new Aussie ladies have no personality and are currently be used as cannon fodder. Other than workrate, please explain how they are worthy of a title yet along a feud? Once WWE establish a reason why, sure. Put right now they are the nameless goons in a kung fu movie. WWE is taking it slow with the Asuka push. To a majority of the WWE audience, she is an unknown. Just like the other new recruits who are coming in. Yeah, they may worked around the world but you start back at square one in NXT. And I called years ago about what was going to happen when WWE markets NXT as a super indy. People are going to forget it's a developmental. People are going to forget the goals of developmental are to improve all areas of yourself and move to the main roster eventually. That people with limited experience are going to have to mix with folks who are better than them into order to improve. So NXT tours nationwide and going overseas soon. If WWE did the same tactics with OVW when that a developmental league, would we declare it was developmental or still stick to the new mindset? Not that long ago, Charlotte was the Eva Marie to fans. Sasha was jobbing to Paige and Summer Rae on the reg. Becky was dancing a jig. People want greatness right now not realizing that all of their faves started from the bottom and it took years to get were they are at. Truthfully, Dana Brooke doesn't bother me. I think her personality is great and (as much as I hate to be that guy) she's hot, two things I don't feel about Eva. I don't think Dana is long-term women's champ material, but I think she could handle a feud with Bayley, especially with Emma in her corner doing their feux-Beautiful People act. Once Sasha moves full time to WWE, Bayley will kinda be alone on top, so the choices for her feuds are new talent they need to develop more, or green girls who need more in-ring work, and Eva happens to be at the bottom of the pile in terms of ability, both in the ring and on the mic. And hey, I hated and felt the same way about young lady named Trish Stratus, but she learned the trade, proved herself and I admitted to being wrong about her and became a fan. Eva wants to be a Main Eventer and earn the respect of the crowd, prove everyone wrong.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 7:46:18 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Asuka the former holder of the most prestigious championship in the world the JWP champioship is not in Bayley's sport. Good one. Look Asuka, Billie and Peyton are MILES ahead of Eva in the ring. I'd say Asuka is better than Bayley too. Bayley however has a great character. Eva Marie has neither the character or the wrestling skills. So you could either give Asuka a character in a couple months, which would be easy, and then have her face Bayley in a fantastic match, or you could try and give Eva some character and teach her to wrestle and hope she doesn't botch too badly in a disapointing fare. Also why do you keep using their indie names? Nobody else is. You must have hated it when CM Punk was in the ring with the Hardys and DX that one time and was getting chants. "CM PUNK IS NOT EVEN IN THE SAME SPORT OF THE GREAT MATT HARDY!" People respect talent reardless of how much they are pushed. It sounds like the WWE are going to have Asuka challenge for the belt before Eva, so I hope you are going to write to HHH to let him know that she's not in the same sport as Bayley and that it should be Eva instead. I'll keep using their indie names as long as you keep justifying the reason for these people to get their big push because of what they did UNDER those indy names instead of what they've done in NXT. Same point at the beginning- KANA (NOT! Asuka!) held the most prestigious championship in the world, the JWP Championship. Asuka is some woman who screamed out how happy she was to be in NXT, then smiled once Emma and Dana Brooke challenged her- which, yes, showed more character than most of the NXT jobber women, but it's still only a start until we actually see her in the ring. Yes, it'd be easier to give Asuka, Billie, Peyton a character within a couple months and kickstart things, but at this moment, as long as they're NOT getting those characters, then it'd be the same as if you had a jobber match with any other woman's wrestler who came out of the Florida house shows instead. Eva Marie doesn't work as well. No. Eva isn't as good as any of these wrestlers- but as a STOPGAP until these wrestlers GET THAT CHARACTER to be able to compete with Bayley, Eva's perfectly fine- "Take the most BELOVED person in the company and make them fight the most HATED person in the company!" is wrestling 101, and won't be a five-snowflake match by any means, but WILL give you the more important things the NXT women need right now: A feud that's GUARANTEED to give you an absolutely molten-hot crowd for that Takeover match and give you the rest of 2015 to develop the characters of Asuka/Billie/Peyton/all the other women from SHIMMER you think should be the stars to get them to the point they would even be at that CM Punk/Hardyz or DX position. It's not perfect, but it's the perfect stopgap to turn those wrestlers' big pushes on NXT to be matches deserving of the NXT women's matches instead of no better than the #DivasRevolution match. I think I'm starting to realize something. Your working under the conceit that upon entering NXT, everything they did prior, never existed. That kayfabe, these are brand new people who never had wrestling careers until WWE hired them. However, announcers constantly referance other wrestlrs careers. Kevin Owens and commentators talk about how he's been in the business for 15 years, worked with Zayn, held titles, etc. He didn't show up as Kevin Iwens, the fresh faced green wrestler. Asuka herself breaks what you seem to be saying as she's introduced as Kana and announces that she'll be wrestling as Asuka (unless I missed something where we were supposed to say "What? Where'd Kana go? Where did this new girl, Asuka, come from?" So yes... Asuka, the wrestler formerly known as Kana, WAS the former JWP champion, had a feud with Tajiri, and was one of the top female wrestlers in the world. I don't follow indie wrestling, to my chagrin, I've never seen Shimmer, I should have no indie fanboy smark claim as you seem to despise, yet I acknowledge where they're from. Like any job, if they are good at what they do, and Eva is not, then they deserve the position and benefits that entails.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 6:48:26 GMT -5
Christ I loved that woman...
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 6:46:28 GMT -5
From a recent NXT live event. If that could happen to Balor, I'd hate to have seen what would have happened if Neville was on the show. This is something straight out of newLEGACYinc. Man... hasn't even come out yet and they've already broken 2K16.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 1:35:26 GMT -5
Thanks. I actually haven't watch most of the vids or looked at info not talked about in this thread, so this concise info was nice. I'm really torn now. I don't know if I want to invent an all new character and add him to my Universe with the Career mode, use another CAW that I like currently floundering in my NXT midcard, or be drastic and retcon the near 20 year (real time) career of my Mary Sue, and let him do Career mode. It would be awesome if you could have more than one at a time.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 1:15:19 GMT -5
AAAAAAH SILVERDOME!! DON'T YOU DARE BE SOWAAAAH!!
*A distracted Hogan drops a 3 ton Andre on top of himself in front of 8 million screaming New Dayniacs, and gets pinned for the 3 count, brother dude.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 0:58:17 GMT -5
Put THOSE things into play, and yes, Billie, Peyton, Athena, Asuka, etc. may be good SHIMMER wrestlers, and may rock in the ring...but until they get a character of any kind, much less get that much TLC for those characters to become stars? Screw "out of Bayley's league", they aren't even playing Bayley's SPORT. You do make alot of good points, but the fact is that while the women you mentioned don't have a ton of character, they've not had much screen time, while Eva has and she too is very much a bland and blank slate. So, being equal there, the fact that they can wrestle and Eva can't, still puts them as better than her, neverminding the fact that they have yet to be given a chance at character unlike her. In fact, a perfect example is how Asuka's smile showed tons more charisma and character development than Eva has since the times she was simply accompanying WWE Divas to the ring two years ago.
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Post by sonofblaine on Sept 27, 2015 0:32:15 GMT -5
Meh also for the record I hate Eva and think that any on screen investment to her is a waste. I despise that shitty Total Divas show that my wife makes me watch. Everything about her infuriates me. BUT if she's going to be there, she can't possibly get worse and only improve. I actually enjoy Total Divas BUT anytime Eva has a segment, I tune it out because its dull and obnoxious.
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