Sajoa Moe
Patti Mayonnaise
Did you get that thing I sent ya?
A man without gimmick.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Dec 7, 2007 19:36:24 GMT -5
Holy shizer. TNA is moving on up it seems. To the East Side?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 7, 2007 19:37:04 GMT -5
I don't know if it's moving up necessarily, as it was on its normal night and pretty well maintained its audience, whereas ECW had the night switch, but the fact remains at least to me, Impact was the much better show this time out. I was flipping back and forth and there was almost nothing on ECW this week to hold or maintain my interest not to flip back to TNA when the commercial there was over.
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 7, 2007 19:37:41 GMT -5
Maybe they do, but it's not like it's false. I mean if ECW was doing good, at least it would get SD-type ratings, but then that could be on the booking as there is no sense of urgency to watch for the average viewer. Really? SD-type ratings? You do realize that Smackdown is the most watched WWE show, right? Also, Smackdown is in a Prime Time against very little competition on CW. ECW is on at 10PM on Tuesday...on Sci-Fi. Both are typically the highest rated shows on their networks. ECW tends to provide a more wrestling based show. You know, the things people complain about the other shows not having? 5 Matches, One Hour with stories to hold them together. Morrison/Miz's ego-driven teamwork. Balls/Kelly's relationship with Miz in the background causing problems. Shelton Benjamin's Pride driven "Gold Standard" leading him towars the ECW title. Kevin Thorn's changing from A Dark chracter to an anti-social powerhouse. CM Punk's never-say-die attitude towards the monster of the show who has enlisted Smackdown's most experience destroyer. Just because they build the stories in the ring...doesn't mean they don't build stories. You've said you don't watch...many times...so I just figure you don't follow the show, hence you don't know the way the booking is going. That would be like someone saying "Well, I like Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle, but I don't want to sift through Rellik/VKM/Petey Williams [Sorry Petey] matches to see them." There is no way to like every wrestler on a show. Anyway, outside of the reply, I wish that WWE would stop treating Raw so special just because it came first and actually advertise the daggone show outside of two 30 second commercials that hype one or two people.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 7, 2007 19:41:10 GMT -5
I see two reactions from Vince
'No big deal. It was a different night. TNA are still worthless.'
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'IT'S ALL ECW'S FAULT!!!!!!THE NAME TURNS PEOPLE OFF! THEY HAVE TO GO! IT'S HEYMAN'S FAULT!"
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 7, 2007 19:41:19 GMT -5
Maybe they do, but it's not like it's false. I mean if ECW was doing good, at least it would get SD-type ratings, but then that could be on the booking as there is no sense of urgency to watch for the average viewer. Really? SD-type ratings? You do realize that Smackdown is the most watched WWE show, right? Also, Smackdown is in a Prime Time against very little competition on CW. ECW is on at 10PM on Tuesday...on Sci-Fi. Both are typically the highest rated shows on their networks. ECW tends to provide a more wrestling based show. You know, the things people complain about the other shows not having? 5 Matches, One Hour with stories to hold them together. Morrison/Miz's ego-driven teamwork. Balls/Kelly's relationship with Miz in the background causing problems. Shelton Benjamin's Pride driven "Gold Standard" leading him towars the ECW title. Kevin Thorn's changing from A Dark chracter to an anti-social powerhouse. CM Punk's never-say-die attitude towards the monster of the show who has enlisted Smackdown's most experience destroyer. Just because they build the stories in the ring...doesn't mean they don't build stories. You've said you don't watch...many times...so I just figure you don't follow the show, hence you don't know the way the booking is going. That would be like someone saying "Well, I like Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle, but I don't want to sift through Rellik/VKM/Petey Williams [Sorry Petey] matches to see them." There is no way to like every wrestler on a show. Anyway, outside of the reply, I wish that WWE would stop treating Raw so special just because it came first and actually advertise the daggone show outside of two 30 second commercials that hype one or two people. It'd be interesting to see the ratings Smackdown would garner if it wasn't a network show and was on cable though. Same with Raw doing the opposite. I think you'd find Raw would smoke Smackdown by a wide margin there.
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Hiroshi Hase
Patti Mayonnaise
The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 7, 2007 19:41:31 GMT -5
Maybe they do, but it's not like it's false. I mean if ECW was doing good, at least it would get SD-type ratings, but then that could be on the booking as there is no sense of urgency to watch for the average viewer. Really? SD-type ratings? You do realize that Smackdown is the most watched WWE show, right? Also, Smackdown is in a Prime Time against very little competition on CW. ECW is on at 10PM on Tuesday...on Sci-Fi. Both are typically the highest rated shows on their networks. ECW tends to provide a more wrestling based show. You know, the things people complain about the other shows not having? 5 Matches, One Hour with stories to hold them together. Morrison/Miz's ego-driven teamwork. Balls/Kelly's relationship with Miz in the background causing problems. Shelton Benjamin's Pride driven "Gold Standard" leading him towars the ECW title. Kevin Thorn's changing from A Dark chracter to an anti-social powerhouse. CM Punk's never-say-die attitude towards the monster of the show who has enlisted Smackdown's most experience destroyer. Just because they build the stories in the ring...doesn't mean they don't build stories. You've said you don't watch...many times...so I just figure you don't follow the show, hence you don't know the way the booking is going. That would be like someone saying "Well, I like Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle, but I don't want to sift through Rellik/VKM/Petey Williams [Sorry Petey] matches to see them." There is no way to like every wrestler on a show. Anyway, outside of the reply, I wish that WWE would stop treating Raw so special just because it came first and actually advertise the daggone show outside of two 30 second commercials that hype one or two people. I wasn't trying to be insulting towards SD, didn't mean for it come that way. As for my second comment, I stand by it. There's only one wrestler on that show that I give a crap about and it's Punk. At least with Raw and Smackdown and TNA, there are several to maintain my interest in them. ECW bores the crap out of me and seeing as I don't care for Miz/Morrison/Big Daddy V, I can avoid the show with no problems.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 7, 2007 19:42:59 GMT -5
I'm surprised by that, actually.
Deep inside, I was hoping TNA would lose against ECW because then it would have caused changed within the company. Because, as we all know, TNA would have hated to lose to the WWE's most insignificant show.
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Post by krazysane on Dec 7, 2007 19:43:01 GMT -5
As someone who watched ecw and didnt flip, I am not surprised really. I dont think wwe didnt even care about a war between the too on that night. Come on they put Cm Punk againts mark henry. Stupid. Last week when kane was getting beat down Taker should have saved him. Then on thursday ecw should have been kane and taker againts bvd and henry. Well thats how I would have booked it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 7, 2007 19:43:06 GMT -5
As much as I do like TNA, I still think it's only in Mcmahon's peripheral vision, if at all. They've got a long way to go before they reach threat level.
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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 7, 2007 19:45:59 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to be insulting towards SD, didn't mean for it come that way. Sorry about that, I wasn't meaning to come off harsh about it. I can understand you not liking people, no worries. Everyone has their own opinion. I tend to enjoy watching the wrestlers on the show. Actually, I usually find a few people to like per show, but I just find myself liking ECW more than others. Now for random's sake: youtube.com/watch?v=AYq08SzwPokECW Recap in MV form...with James Storm's theme!
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 7, 2007 19:47:06 GMT -5
I'm surprised by that, actually. Deep inside, I was hoping TNA would lose against ECW because then it would have caused changed within the company. Because, as we all know, TNA would have hated to lose to the WWE's most insignificant show. Funnily enough, I was hoping ECW would lose to that could instigate a change. ECW has way more problems than TNA. At least impact is treated like it's important.
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Steveweiser
Dalek
Mickie Mickie You're So Fine... Hey Mickie!
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Post by Steveweiser on Dec 7, 2007 19:48:18 GMT -5
As a Brit, I'd like to know how network TV ratings work compared to cable TV ratings, and hence why SmackDown with a regular 2.5 network TV rating is better than RAW's usual 3.5 cable rating.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 7, 2007 19:50:37 GMT -5
As a Brit, I'd like to know how network TV ratings work compared to cable TV ratings, and hence why SmackDown with a regular 2.5 network TV rating is better than RAW's usual 3.5 cable rating. It's based on number of homes-- i.e. if you have tv, you'll get most networks even if you don't pay for cable; ergo that 2.5 is actually higher than the 3.5
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 7, 2007 19:57:17 GMT -5
As a Brit, I'd like to know how network TV ratings work compared to cable TV ratings, and hence why SmackDown with a regular 2.5 network TV rating is better than RAW's usual 3.5 cable rating. I think the simple reason for it is that alot more people have access to Network Television then they do cable and thus, it's avaliable in more homes then Raw is on Cable. But I'm a Brit too so I might be wrong about it. Funnily enough, I was hoping ECW would lose to that could instigate a change. ECW has way more problems than TNA. At least impact is treated like it's important. I do see what you mean. Both shows have their own problems that they need to deal with which might come off this 'battle'. But having said that, if you believe alot of people here, TNA have MAJOR problems.
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Post by EZ: Broken Bae on Dec 7, 2007 19:57:57 GMT -5
I wasn't trying to be insulting towards SD, didn't mean for it come that way. Sorry about that, I wasn't meaning to come off harsh about it. I can understand you not liking people, no worries. Everyone has their own opinion. I tend to enjoy watching the wrestlers on the show. Actually, I usually find a few people to like per show, but I just find myself liking ECW more than others. Now for random's sake: youtube.com/watch?v=AYq08SzwPokECW Recap in MV form...with James Storm's theme! Yeah, I'm one of the few who actually likes ECW too. I actually think it's a pretty darn good wrestling show, with a few hit or miss moments. I just wished they promoted it more, A LOT more. Same goes for Smackdown. I understand RAW is their original and iflagship show and all, but they could be doing a lot better if they treated all 3 brands with major imprtance.
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comahan
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Post by comahan on Dec 7, 2007 20:11:46 GMT -5
Good for TNA for not losing viewers. I don't see how this wasn't expected though. Not because TNA has a better show necessarily, but because of the date change. Last time ECW went to a different night I believe they scored a similar rating. So it seems as though the different programs have totally different audiences.
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Joekishi
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Post by Joekishi on Dec 7, 2007 20:15:40 GMT -5
Smackdown does well because it is the most watched show in WWE, because it's not cable based. A lot of house holds still don't have cable, and their biggest ratings draw is in Southern California.
I love watching Smackdown the most out of all 4 shows, because it provides both
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comahan
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Post by comahan on Dec 7, 2007 20:19:00 GMT -5
I cant watch Smackdown because Dish network here doesnt carry the CW Network. Its extremely annoying. I have to watch it online a day or two later.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Dec 7, 2007 20:19:35 GMT -5
TNA Impact beat Vince McMahon's C-show in the ratings... and why should I care?
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 7, 2007 20:19:45 GMT -5
Good for TNA for not losing viewers. I don't see how this wasn't expected though. Not because TNA has a better show necessarily, but because of the date change. Last time ECW went to a different night I believe they scored a similar rating. So it seems as though the different programs have totally different audiences. TNA had the advantage in getting the first hour. Once you've seen the first hour, you're less likely to turn over because you want to see what's going to happen.
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