wwerules60
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Post by wwerules60 on Oct 9, 2007 19:42:48 GMT -5
I'm curious, when he was hired by WWE initially did the headline read "WWE interested in ANOTHER former ECW Wrestler?" And did fans say with voices filled with disdain, "WWE is all about ECW's sloppy seconds?" I'm betting 'no', which makes this ridiculous. The only former WWE wrestlers who TNA shouldn't have bothered with are the five old and untalented -- VKM, Team 3D and Dustin Rhodes. Well technically he didn't make his name in ECW really. He only got really big in WWE. But ya I don't mind if TNA gets him but when they hire like Goldust and Test, that is when it gets ridiculous. I do think they should trim some fat though before they hire more talent.
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 9, 2007 19:42:49 GMT -5
I want MNM back. Except now it would be MMM. They could market Campbell's. Or have that Crash Test Dummies song as their theme! Mercury could do well in the X Division. Might be a good fit. Once....there was this guy who...got into an accident and couldn't finish the match. And when....he finally came back....he wore....a super ugly face protector. He said that it was from when the ladder smashed him sooooo hard. Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 9, 2007 19:46:50 GMT -5
Their roster isn't lacking for talent and Mercury doesn't have anywhere near the name recognition needed to draw. So, what? Joey Matthews is suppost to sit on his hands and hope that the WWE makes that call for him to come back and be Joey Mercury again? I say, way to go and good luck to ya! I wouldn't want to avoid the second most high profile job I could get, just because some people think I can't "draw" Um, yeah, I was totally criticizing Joey Matthews for trying to get a good job rather than criticizing TNA's questionable business decision. You're very perceptive.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Oct 9, 2007 19:47:54 GMT -5
I'm curious, when he was hired by WWE initially did the headline read "WWE interested in ANOTHER former ECW Wrestler?" And did fans say with voices filled with disdain, "WWE is all about ECW's sloppy seconds?" I'm betting 'no', which makes this ridiculous. The only former WWE wrestlers who TNA shouldn't have bothered with are the five old and untalented -- VKM, Team 3D and Dustin Rhodes. Well technically he didn't make his name in ECW really. He only got really big in WWE. But ya I don't mind if TNA gets him but when they hire like Goldust and Test, that is when it gets ridiculous. I do think they should trim some fat though before they hire more talent. Him and York (The Badstreet Boys) actually had a pretty decent following in ECW and some other indies...so smark wise, he was well known...
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Post by thestinger on Oct 9, 2007 19:48:46 GMT -5
Well technically he didn't make his name in ECW really. He only got really big in WWE. ECW was the first place I saw him. Heck, it's the only place I saw him until he started showing up at the live indy shows I go to since his release. Why was he fired by WWE, by the way?
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 9, 2007 19:49:57 GMT -5
Well technically he didn't make his name in ECW really. He only got really big in WWE. ECW was the first place I saw him. Heck, it's the only place I saw him until he started showing up at the live indy shows I go to since his release. Why was he fired by WWE, by the way? Substance abuse, I think.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Oct 9, 2007 19:51:25 GMT -5
So, what? Joey Matthews is suppost to sit on his hands and hope that the WWE makes that call for him to come back and be Joey Mercury again? I say, way to go and good luck to ya! I wouldn't want to avoid the second most high profile job I could get, just because some people think I can't "draw" Um, yeah, I was totally criticizing Joey Matthews for trying to get a good job rather than criticizing TNA's questionable business decision. You're very perceptive. Being perceptive eh? It wasn't that hard to pick up on what you ment, seeing as the "TNAZ HIRESSZ WWEFS REJECTOERSS@!!!!!" is a pretty common belief around here... What I was gettin at, was if the guy is talented, who cares if he worked for the WWE at one time? And how is it bad business if you want to hire a guy who has some talent?
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 9, 2007 19:52:12 GMT -5
If no one can hire anyone that "wouldn't draw", then the roster would have about 10 people on it.
Not everyone needs to draw millions of people to the shows or anything. They just need to entertain the people there and do the best they can to get people hyped up for the other stuff.
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Post by thestinger on Oct 9, 2007 19:52:15 GMT -5
Substance abuse, I think. That sucks. I was in the live crowd at a CT indy show for his first surprise appearance after his release. The crowd popped huge for him, and I didn't have the slightest idea who he was at the time. Then I realized he was half of that old ECW tag team.
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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 9, 2007 19:57:26 GMT -5
I'm curious, when he was hired by WWE initially did the headline read "WWE interested in ANOTHER former ECW Wrestler?" And did fans say with voices filled with disdain, "WWE is all about ECW's sloppy seconds?" I'm betting 'no', which makes this ridiculous. The only former WWE wrestlers who TNA shouldn't have bothered with are the five old and untalented -- VKM, Team 3D and Dustin Rhodes. Ridiculous? Ridiculous. Ri...dic...u...lous. Okay. However, don't be surprised if you see another complaint thread if we hear the line "It's Joey Matthews! Formerly Joey Mercury!" at the BFG PPV. Maybe it would be harder to fault TNA if they didn't already have a packed roster full of people... That's just me, though. Also, I wouldn't have been surprised to see hate threads when ECW was around and their stars showed up in WCW or WWE.
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 9, 2007 19:57:41 GMT -5
Um, yeah, I was totally criticizing Joey Matthews for trying to get a good job rather than criticizing TNA's questionable business decision. You're very perceptive. Being perceptive eh? It wasn't that hard to pick up on what you ment, seeing as the "TNAZ HIRESSZ WWEFS REJECTOERSS@!!!!!" is a pretty common belief around here... What I was gettin at, was if the guy is talented, who cares if he worked for the WWE at one time? And how is it bad business if you want to hire a guy who has some talent? Because more is not always better. They have talented guys on the roster now who are being nearly ignored. Sure, he may be talented, but what's he bringing to the company that they don't already have? And I'm sorry, but I think a person has to have completely drunk the TNA kool-aid not to see that TNA has clearly demonstrated that they're pretty much interested in anybody who was in WWE for any extended period of time.
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Post by Adam Pacman Khan (akkilla) on Oct 9, 2007 19:57:47 GMT -5
I feel like whenever they hire a former WWE guy, he somehow finds himself involved in the main event for no good reason whatsoever (I.E. Test)... test got a title shot?
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Post by thestinger on Oct 9, 2007 20:01:47 GMT -5
However, don't be surprised if you see another complaint thread if we hear the line "It's Joey Matthews! Formerly Joey Mercury!" at the BFG PPV. I'm positive there WILL be a complaint thread about that. It will be just as silly as this thread, or all the ones alleging 'constant' face/heel turns in TNA. Which proves that people will complain about anything on the interweb.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Oct 9, 2007 20:05:24 GMT -5
Being perceptive eh? It wasn't that hard to pick up on what you ment, seeing as the "TNAZ HIRESSZ WWEFS REJECTOERSS@!!!!!" is a pretty common belief around here... What I was gettin at, was if the guy is talented, who cares if he worked for the WWE at one time? And how is it bad business if you want to hire a guy who has some talent? Because more is not always better. They have talented guys on the roster now who are being nearly ignored. Sure, he may be talented, but what's he bringing to the company that they don't already have? And I'm sorry, but I think a person has to have completely drunk the TNA kool-aid not to see that TNA has clearly demonstrated that they're pretty much interested in anybody who was in WWE for any extended period of time. I'm not punch-drunk on any TNA Kool-Aid...should I make a list of people who spent any extended amount of time in the WWE that hasn't been rumoured to be in talks with TNA? Would that help ya out a little in thinking that they want anybody that stinks of WWE?...No?....Alright then, I won't bother...
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 9, 2007 20:14:41 GMT -5
Because more is not always better. They have talented guys on the roster now who are being nearly ignored. Sure, he may be talented, but what's he bringing to the company that they don't already have? And I'm sorry, but I think a person has to have completely drunk the TNA kool-aid not to see that TNA has clearly demonstrated that they're pretty much interested in anybody who was in WWE for any extended period of time. I'm not punch-drunk on any TNA Kool-Aid...should I make a list of people who spent any extended amount of time in the WWE that hasn't been rumoured to be in talks with TNA? Would that help ya out a little in thinking that they want anybody that stinks of WWE?...No?....Alright then, I won't bother... Dude, let's face it. They brought in Goldust. Now I know that supposedly WWE wanted to bring him back to be a mega-heel and feud with Cena, but that only goes to show that WWE has big problems of their own (namely desperately trying to recapture bygone glory days instead of figuring out how to develop their product for the future). But how do you defend Test? TEST. Granted, they were smart enough not to keep him around, but having him show up at all was bad enough. You can't tell me that there was any motivation to bringing those two guys in beyond some notion that people would tune in to watch them because they were in WWE once upon a time. Need I go on to mention Rikishi? Obviously I'm not saying that TNA actually has tried to sign each and every former WWE guy at one point or another, but you've got to admit they aren't very discriminating.
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Corporate H
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Post by Corporate H on Oct 9, 2007 20:17:43 GMT -5
This is actually a step in the right direction for TNA.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Oct 9, 2007 20:18:47 GMT -5
I'm not punch-drunk on any TNA Kool-Aid...should I make a list of people who spent any extended amount of time in the WWE that hasn't been rumoured to be in talks with TNA? Would that help ya out a little in thinking that they want anybody that stinks of WWE?...No?....Alright then, I won't bother... Dude, let's face it. They brought in Goldust. Now I know that supposedly WWE wanted to bring him back to be a mega-heel and feud with Cena, but that only goes to show that WWE has big problems of their own (namely desperately trying to recapture bygone glory days instead of figuring out how to develop their product for the future). But how do you defend Test? TEST. Granted, they were smart enough not to keep him around, but having him show up at all was bad enough. You can't tell me that there was any motivation to bringing those two guys in beyond some notion that people would tune in to watch them because they were in WWE once upon a time. Need I go on to mention Rikishi? Obviously I'm not saying that TNA actually has tried to sign each and every former WWE guy at one point or another, but you've got to admit they aren't very discriminating. "And I'm sorry, but I think a person has to have completely drunk the TNA kool-aid not to see that TNA has clearly demonstrated that they're pretty much interested in anybody who was in WWE for any extended period of time. " That looks to me like you just said TNA tries to hire each and every former WWE guy...But I agree that Test, Rikishi, and Dustin Rhodes aren't all that great or entertaining, but each one of them was over in one way or another before...so why not try and recapture some of that? (And this is coming from someone who HATES Rikishi...but there are casual fans who find the guy to be entertaining, and thats the group of people TNA markets too...sadly enough...or else we'd have Joe as champion by now...)
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Post by mo on Oct 9, 2007 20:23:01 GMT -5
Mercury's a talented enough guy, can't say this is a bad choice
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Post by bob on Oct 9, 2007 20:24:53 GMT -5
I always thought Mercury could go, I see no problem with him jumpiing to TNA
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Post by leemir on Oct 9, 2007 20:27:34 GMT -5
He had some matches for TNA before he signed for WWE years ago.
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