Why Impact sucked tonight

[poi zen rana]

chuckymac314 said:

johnnysb said:

I got the impression he was they're for a half hour and then kicked out. With no refund. So refuses to act good.

AND WHY DID HE BECOME SO BIG IN THE STORYLINE? HES A FRIGGIN ANNOUNCER! JUST CALL THE DAMN MATCHES AND LET THE COMMISIONER DO HIS JOB!

Exactly. That's the main thing pissing me off about TNA right now(I know, my perspective sucks, but hey, there ya are), that Tenay somehow became a big wheel in the machine by virtue of his head commentary position. Call the matches, Mike, let Corny make the decisions.

the thing is though that tenay wasn't shown to be a big wheel. he just threw a fit and bugged cornette. cornette listened to him but it wasn't because tenay has power, it was more of him listening to all sides it seemed. i didn't get the impression tenay had any power, just that he had a temper tantrum and went to bug someone with power.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

poisonrana said:

chuckymac314 said:

Exactly. That's the main thing pissing me off about TNA right now(I know, my perspective sucks, but hey, there ya are), that Tenay somehow became a big wheel in the machine by virtue of his head commentary position. Call the matches, Mike, let Corny make the decisions.

the thing is though that tenay wasn't shown to be a big wheel. he just threw a fit and bugged cornette. cornette listened to him but it wasn't because tenay has power, it was more of him listening to all sides it seemed. i didn't get the impression tenay had any power, just that he had a temper tantrum and went to bug someone with power.

Okay, see, not knowing that bit of the story about the temper tantrum, that puts it into a little more sensical light now. I can actually see that making a little bit of sense.

[Johnny]

chuckymac314 said:

poisonrana said:

the thing is though that tenay wasn't shown to be a big wheel. he just threw a fit and bugged cornette. cornette listened to him but it wasn't because tenay has power, it was more of him listening to all sides it seemed. i didn't get the impression tenay had any power, just that he had a temper tantrum and went to bug someone with power.

Okay, see, not knowing that bit of the story about the temper tantrum, that puts it into a little more sensical light now. I can actually see that making a little bit of sense.

He still did more then he should have. Who gives a poo on what Tenay has to say. Hes nothing in the big scheme of things.

[hollywood]

chuckymac314 said:

johnnysb said:

I got the impression he was they're for a half hour and then kicked out. With no refund. So refuses to act good.

AND WHY DID HE BECOME SO BIG IN THE STORYLINE? HES A FRIGGIN ANNOUNCER! JUST CALL THE DAMN MATCHES AND LET THE COMMISIONER DO HIS JOB!

Exactly. That's the main thing pissing me off about TNA right now(I know, my perspective sucks, but hey, there ya are), that Tenay somehow became a big wheel in the machine by virtue of his head commentary position. Call the matches, Mike, let Corny make the decisions.

That's just TNA being the future of pro wrestling again: commentators getting involved in storylines. It's the future, baby!!!

[thestinger]

limey said:

The rant had a lot of good points. This killed it.

Opinions exist. You shared yours, and you should expect others. It's become a rule to become tolerant. Rant on TNA all you want. That's a valid POV. Don't rant on other people for enjoying things.

Just wanted to get that off my chest.

Yeah, I know. Some guy I've never met writes that a promo sucked and then whines people are going to 'justify' why the things he hates are ok?

Guess what son? I don't have to justify to you or anyone why I don't agree with you about something. My opinion is at least as valid as yours. Maybe more so since not all the facts you used were accurate (There was not interference in Cowboy vs. Young -- Jackie yelled at Eric -- she never touched him.)

BTW I also thought last night's impact sucked. I only had one complaint though and that's dead weight (3D, Nash, Dustin) weighing down the company.

[BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED!]

djackal said:

THAT is TNA.

and they ARE WRESTLING!!! :://sarcasm

[macdaddysquid]

poisonrana said:

macdaddysquid said:

I got tired of arguing with all you TNA guys so I took notes tonight. I know, loser thign to do, but alas my point will be made.

First There is a subpar Angle promo, with Nash.

i enjoyed the promo. what makes it sup bar to you? i could have sworn angle and nash were two of the best mic workers going, but evidently there was something sub par.
to make sure i follow, you disliked an eight man tag because

A. they showed sting's door for near 2.5 seconds in a split screen so they were still focused on action.
B. it turned into a brawl at some point.

this is wrestling man. seriously if you have never seen a cut away from a match, or people not tagging and just brawling, let me warn you. this happens a lot in wrestling! if you don't like it maybe your hobby should be watching kickball.

kurt get's air time because he is the most popular wrestler on the roster for the most part. he also he gets air time because he is involved in the main storyline of the company. he also gets air time because he is good on the mic and very good in the ring. karen doesn't have an inability to act, she just has an annoying voice.

to further the storyline that she is involved with.
in my mind they don't put effort into their attacks. they wait until people are hurt and then sneak up or just attack with weapons. little effort has gone into their attacks.
the reason being, like you said the x division was always booked as a more competitive thing with mutual respect but lately it hasn't been. the x division isn't like it used to be and most of the other guys had already gotten laid out by team 3d and no one helped them. let us not forget as well that if someone runs in and beats up 3d it will set up a match, and perhaps they are just waiting a bit letting this angle develop. plus you hate run ins so why should anyone run in for a save.

actually sting lost due to distraction, which was his own fault. there was zero interference.
maybe they just want to let his name be on the title history of champions for the biggest belt in the company he has helped out a lot in. giving a little back to sting, while putting a big name in the title history of their belt.
kurt has multiple reasons to be champion. great mic worker? check. still pull out amazing matches that make guys half your age jealous? check. what more do you look for in a wrestler mr. squid? she is big you are right. you are wrong to call her slow. the reason they are all jobbing to kong is to establish her as a monster so she can give someone a rub when they beat her. do you seriously never watch wrestling? you act surprised about angles that have been run many times through out the years. this is wrestling. it still cracks me up you have umaga in your sig but call kong big goofy and slow. you do realize umaga wrestles a style that is pretty close to a male kong don't you?
there are no vices in the parking lot that is why. the thing with judas is he took a nasty spill of a ladder and got injured so they had to phase that storyline away for awhile by having black reign join with mitchell. that why they can continue to attack abyss until messias is healed and ready to continue his war with abyss. suit yourself but christian was great on commentary and i really wish they would add someone like him to the commentating team.

Like 5 Angle segemtns why does he get so much backstage time? Why can't Joe cut a promo or somehting?

because joe is a babyface so including him in a feud against sting wouldn't work as well. the fans would be split more, whereas kurt goes out there and gets good heel heat. the guy is very talented and the top heel in the company. where is the problem?

I don't know how to do the doule space quote thing that you did...

Well You guys are right, I should ot have said that justify it thing, in my haste I was a bit rude...

The Umaga sig is a joke, I guess people never got it? It's not that I think highly of Umga it's that I sort of look like a non samoan vversion of him...

My point with the locker room door is this. There was no reason to disrupt the match, they could just as well taken away one of the Angle promos and did it later. Why interrupt a good match? That ruins it for me no matter what company it is.

You would have to agree that even as the most popular guy in TNA Angle should not have so much air time. HHH doesnt even get 5-6 promos a night.

I stand by what I said about Karen Angle her face never changes, no real emotion when she is on scree.

Thanks for the heads up on Judas, I had no idea. I just thought it was poor booking. But I am sure you would agreee that the set where Abyss was attacked was to goofy looking to be taken seriously.

As far as team 3d goes, They should not be attacking the x division guys. My point was if they put more effort into the tag division they would still be champs. There is no reason for the X division storyline, nothing good will come out of it. Just poor booking. IF managment wants to fix it they should book it like the good ole days...

I don;t like awesome Kong and no amount of arguing with these boards will change it, It was not necessary to bring her in. There is no point in building up monsters so they can be thwarted. It one of the dubest things in wrestling today. After she is beaten dhe will just kind of be there, like Joe. To bring in so many women just to job to her seems silly to me. I hate her facial expressions.

Jackie def did some kind of outside distraction, that counts as interference. as does Nash.

I think having Stings name on will do anything without a good run behind it. To just drop it to Angle so seem is just a dumb angle. Kurt is washed up, and can barely wrestle acceptable matches. He has awful stamina. I bring up his matches with Joe, one in particluar when they were supposed to go 30 mins and Kurt could only do like 15. Fact is he has the title and the air time because he brings WWE title runs to the company. To give him so much air time kills the story for me.

My problem with Cage being out there is because he is that good on the mic and he is that entertaining I felt that he was there because TNA thought that Roode and Fatu couldn't produce good enough match. That is my problem he stole the spotlight from what it supposed to a tourny with the best TNA has to offer. Let them wrestle.

[Henry Mark]

poisonrana said:

chuckymac314 said:

Exactly. That's the main thing pissing me off about TNA right now(I know, my perspective sucks, but hey, there ya are), that Tenay somehow became a big wheel in the machine by virtue of his head commentary position. Call the matches, Mike, let Corny make the decisions.

the thing is though that tenay wasn't shown to be a big wheel. he just threw a fit and bugged cornette. cornette listened to him but it wasn't because tenay has power, it was more of him listening to all sides it seemed. i didn't get the impression tenay had any power, just that he had a temper tantrum and went to bug someone with power.

But the problem is, why "listen to all sides," as he KEPT saying, when there is VIDEO TAPE. Is TNA so out of touch with reality that it chooses eyewitness evidence over VIDEO TAPED evidence? And is Tenay sleeping with Sting or something, why so upset and so pissed off that he basically walked off the job, over something that was being resolved. And I already deleted the show from my DVR, but did I hear West say something like "OH HE BETTER HAVE AN ANSWER FOR US!" when Cornette got in the ring and said he'd have an answer for us. Would West also rush the ring if Cornette decided to not share his answer?

[Deleted]

Um, I flipped it on for five minutes.

The four-way X-Division match was on. They did their usual fare: two guys fight until one falls, then someone else picks him up and does a wild move, then the fourth guy finally gets involved. Two guys end up on the floor, one does a crazy move to flatten them, then the fourth guy does a tope to take all three out.
Then the Duds come out, piss on the X-Division and beat everybody up, powerbombing the two I don't like most through tables.
The other X-Division guys didn't come out to make the save because,
a) they haven't done so in previous attacks, and,
b) put the entire X-Division together and Brother Ray still outweighs them by 200 pounds.

When Joe did it, Joe was showing us that a big guy like him doesn't need to do a triple hurricanrana and a loopty-loop double-flip moonsault to the announcer's table to get noticed in the X-D. Joe, as some old-school announcers used to say, "didn't get paid by the move or the hour". You go in, make your presence felt, then win. I liked that.

I gave up on the rest of the show. The more things change, they worse they get.

[poi zen rana]

schwarzjms said:

poisonrana said:

the thing is though that tenay wasn't shown to be a big wheel. he just threw a fit and bugged cornette. cornette listened to him but it wasn't because tenay has power, it was more of him listening to all sides it seemed. i didn't get the impression tenay had any power, just that he had a temper tantrum and went to bug someone with power.

But the problem is, why "listen to all sides," as he KEPT saying, when there is VIDEO TAPE. Is TNA so out of touch with reality that it chooses eyewitness evidence over VIDEO TAPED evidence? And is Tenay sleeping with Sting or something, why so upset and so pissed off that he basically walked off the job, over something that was being resolved. And I already deleted the show from my DVR, but did I hear West say something like "OH HE BETTER HAVE AN ANSWER FOR US!" when Cornette got in the ring and said he'd have an answer for us. Would West also rush the ring if Cornette decided to not share his answer?

well even the video taped evidence was iffy. there was no real interference it was sting who attacked nash, therefore how could kurt be dqed? then again sting only lost due to said distraction. so just seeing the tape doesn't warrant a decision really. the commentator was just sticking up for sting, albeit ridiculously.

[poi zen rana]

macdaddysquid said:

The Umaga sig is a joke, I guess people never got it? It's not that I think highly of Umga it's that I sort of look like a non samoan vversion of him...

i realize the joke but i don't get the impression you hate him which is why i brought up the fact that i find it silly that you hate kong for being a power wrestler. umaga didn't get beat up when he was being established.

My point with the locker room door is this. There was no reason to disrupt the match, they could just as well taken away one of the Angle promos and did it later. Why interrupt a good match? That ruins it for me no matter what company it is.

i understand cutting away bothered you but i find it silly that you wrote off the whole match basically because of a shot of sting's door which they worked in without taking the camera off of the match. i think that was weird but by no means did it take away from the match to the extent i felt you were implying.

You would have to agree that even as the most popular guy in TNA Angle should not have so much air time. HHH doesnt even get 5-6 promos a night.

hhh may not currently but they do highlight their main storylines. vince is shown many times through out shows. it happens often in wrestling where one of the biggest names appears on the show through out the night.

As far as team 3d goes, They should not be attacking the x division guys. My point was if they put more effort into the tag division they would still be champs. There is no reason for the X division storyline, nothing good will come out of it. Just poor booking. IF managment wants to fix it they should book it like the good ole days...

i suppose but at the same time i am just glad they aren't active in the tag team division currently. i think when it comes to wrestling, they just can't keep up but do very well in a brawling style. i am really hoping the motor city get some revenge, but i am also just pleased that a.j. and tomko have the belts and are setting up a program with l.a.x. which i think is far better than having 3d in the current title hunt.

I don;t like awesome Kong and no amount of arguing with these boards will change it, It was not necessary to bring her in. There is no point in building up monsters so they can be thwarted. It one of the dubest things in wrestling today. After she is beaten dhe will just kind of be there, like Joe. To bring in so many women just to job to her seems silly to me. I hate her facial expressions.

the thing is all the women they brought in will most likely go on to establish themselves to set up the division. i don't think they were brought in just to make kong look dangerous. that is what they are doing now, because they want to build up a challenger to the title. when that is done however either A. kong will have the belt and women will start fighting each other and establishing themselves to set up for next title shot, or B. kong will lose and gail will look 10x better for being the first to defeat her. those are the most likely outcomes i believe. kong is being built at the expense of the others for now, simply so that they have someone dangerous built up. the others will have a chance they have only been with the company for a few tapings.

I think having Stings name on will do anything without a good run behind it. To just drop it to Angle so seem is just a dumb angle. Kurt is washed up, and can barely wrestle acceptable matches. He has awful stamina. I bring up his matches with Joe, one in particluar when they were supposed to go 30 mins and Kurt could only do like 15. Fact is he has the title and the air time because he brings WWE title runs to the company. To give him so much air time kills the story for me.

well this is where the big disagreement is i suppose. angle has put on some great matches in tna and that match you speak of happened almost a complete year ago (next pay per view will be a one year mark). that wasn't a great match for kurt but he has put on some exceptional matches in my book. maybe i am missing something you see, but when i watch kurt angle matches i am usually entertained and i believe he can out wrestle many guys way younger than he is. i believe he has the title and air time because A. many people agree with me that he puts on good matches still to this day, and B. he oozes charisma.

My problem with Cage being out there is because he is that good on the mic and he is that entertaining I felt that he was there because TNA thought that Roode and Fatu couldn't produce good enough match. That is my problem he stole the spotlight from what it supposed to a tourny with the best TNA has to offer. Let them wrestle.

well he is a part of the tournament so it makes complete sense for him to commentate on a match to see who he fights in the next round. if he took away from the match it is most likely because fatu can't put on five star classics. i really wish they would have guest third man commentators because the broadcast team flows much better when tenay can call moves, west can be goofy as hell rooting for babyfaces, and someone else is there to play heel commentator. i enjoy it.

[Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley]

Jesus. I literally got a headache from reading that review. People, people, please...if you're going to post something, take the time to read it before you post it so it makes sense!

[wolfmoon103100]

The only reason i'm watching TNA is for Kong.

[big nasty]

impact in my opinion wasnt so bad last night, i was laughing histerically at "angry" mike tenay.

seriously, sting started with nash, why were the announcers so adamant about overturning the decision? they really came off as idiots.

what killed it for me, and why ill never get into TNA fully, is this:

TAG TEAM MATCH FOR THE WORLD TITLE.
not a four corners, triple threat, etc, -- tag match. i will never understand this, so i dont think ill ever "get" TNA, as a whole.

i do like their matches, though

[plushtar]

My thoughts:
- Title match was nice, but Tenay acting like a spoilt child hurt it. Jim Cornette can't talk to me that way!!!
- Kong is Kong and that's great.
- Rikishi/Roode was good since it gives a path for Joe/Roode. Roode is starting to show signs of charisma.
- I flip-flop on Team 3D, so I will abstain.
- Eric Young put on a surprisingly good performance. I was satisfied to see Storm win the match.

I missed the rest of the show agian due to Comedy Central, again. There's always the replay.

[TheKillShot]

popogijo said:

what killed it for me, and why ill never get into TNA fully, is this:

TAG TEAM MATCH FOR THE WORLD TITLE.
not a four corners, triple threat, etc, -- tag match. i will never understand this, so i dont think ill ever "get" TNA, as a whole.

i do like their matches, though

Randy Orton got their idea WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY back. (Regal, Eugene vs. LA Resistance)

[twiggy101]

macdaddysquid said:

I got tired of arguing with all you TNA guys so I took notes tonight. I know, loser thign to do, but alas my point will be made.

First There is a subpar Angle promo, with Nash.

Then The 8 man tag match, pretty good until the match was interrupted by the Sting locker room. Do we really need to videotape his locker room door and place it in view during match?
Then we come to what has become a staple in TNA tag matches. "All hell breaks lose" All competitors are in the ring brawling, the ref does nothing. This is smurfing dumb.
When the match picked p the ie outside interference(Not a big deal now but I will bitch about this later).

OK Sting promo.

Angle again gets segemnt air time...Why? PLus Karen has un inability to act with her face, all of her facial expressions are really bad and unbelieveable.

James Storm vs Eric Young. Fisrt off the Pyro gag is old as crap, I am tired of it and it is dumb. This match has outside interference.

Karen Angle backstage segment...Why?

Team 3d promo bitch about the X-Division, and waste about 8 minutes doing it. If they (as in characters in kayfabe) put that kind of effort into the tag division they would not have llost the titles and would not (for no reason mind you) be killing the X's.

Sonja IDIOT Ghandi gimmick Dutt vs Shark Boy vs Petey Williams vs Havok.- This match had NO physchology what so ever, it was sloppy as hell and to say the least poopy performances. A very poor attempt at a "Spot Fest" match. Then making things worse we se Team 3d again and they proceed to destroy the X guys. Pretty badly. What doesnt make sence to me is why didn't any other X guys come out to save them? When JOe was killing them they united to fight the evil. The X division has always been booked as more of a competitive thing with mutual respect, then why not unite to help your fellow brothers against Team 3d? INstead they just let them get their asses kicked.

Robert Roode. Not bad.

Title match was ok, perfectly good and acceptable wrestling. Until ash came out and now Sting is screwed out of the title. Angle wins it, due to interference...This is poopy on so mnay levels.

Level A-Sting has no credit as champion, he had it for a wkk. How can one add prestige to a title like that?

Level B-Angle is for no reason at all champ again, why I don;t know. Head my words, Angle is KILLING TNA!

Level c- An over booked main event at Genesis, thanks Russo...They should hire a retareded chimp sand get rid of Russo, maybe things would improve?

Awesome Ong is smurfing stupid, I hate evrything about her, she is big, goofy and slow. Wht start a womens division if they are all going to job to Kong? PLus that photo of Kim was stupid. Talk about cliche...

Black Reign attacking Abyss in a smurfing backstage set, with a vice no less. This is smurfing stupid, why not the parking lot or somehting? PLus Abyss is so big and badass he should not be afraid of rats. HE is murderer right? What happened to Judas? How did that end so fast? Why even start it if your going to be stupid with it?

Robert Roode vs Fatu, ok but there was interference, the only justified interfernce of the night. Pus Christian killed it, he should not have went out.

Another Angle segemtn...Please stop!

Like 5 Angle segemtns why does he get so much backstage time? Why can't Joe cut a promo or somehting?

Every match but the Kong match had interference! AWFUL BOOKING!

I don't know why I still watch, I want to kill myself right now, and making things worse people will try to justify everthing I just said...

You must really hate TNA. Are you going to watch it next week?

I'd rather have it that TNA's staple in tag matches be "All Hell is Breaking Loose" then the weakest face on the team gets beaten up by the heels for a freakin' long time then makes the hot tag and faces win.

[mysterydriver]

Some of my opinions...

--The woman's division seems to be Gail, Kong, and Kong's victims.

--Roode had a real good interview segment that almost made up for Fatu's horrible rambling last week.

--Junior Fatu/Roode was okay, but I'm not really liking Fatu's tenure in TNA. He's a big shell of himself who seems to get winded quickly. I did like Roode getting ticked about the Stinkface and going for the low-blow. I found myself rooting for him after that. I mean...Stinkface. Ugh.

--Team 3D. I know they'll end up having MCMG win in the end, but the whole thing was irritating. From the sloppy match, to the sloppy beatdown. That segment irked me.

--The "build-up" for the rematch. I switched the channel for the BC/VT game during the introductions. I just didn't care. Then I switched back to the game at the first headlock takedown. I turned back after a play to see Angle get out and then back in. I switched again. Watched a play. Back in time for Angle to escape to a TNA chant (), another scuffle, headlock takedown, channel switch.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, despite wanting it to seem like a big match, it just seemed like a long, drawn out match. I had no real desire to watch it. Throwing in Kevin Nash and the "interference that wasn't interference" and I just shook my head. Controversy!!

--Karen/Nash/Kurt. Give them many onscreen segments. When they aren't on screen. Talk about them. Why pay attention to a tournament match with Storm/Young? Karen Angle was turned down!!!

--I like Eric Young. He's entertaining. I don't apologize.

Just a few opinions. Take them as you will.

[Spankymac is sick of the swiss]

mysterydriver said:

Some of my opinions...

--The woman's division seems to be Gail, Kong, and Kong's victims.

--Roode had a real good interview segment that almost made up for Fatu's horrible rambling last week.

--Junior Fatu/Roode was okay, but I'm not really liking Fatu's tenure in TNA. He's a big shell of himself who seems to get winded quickly. I did like Roode getting ticked about the Stinkface and going for the low-blow. I found myself rooting for him after that. I mean...Stinkface. Ugh.

--Team 3D. I know they'll end up having MCMG win in the end, but the whole thing was irritating. From the sloppy match, to the sloppy beatdown. That segment irked me.

--The "build-up" for the rematch. I switched the channel for the BC/VT game during the introductions. I just didn't care. Then I switched back to the game at the first headlock takedown. I turned back after a play to see Angle get out and then back in. I switched again. Watched a play. Back in time for Angle to escape to a TNA chant (), another scuffle, headlock takedown, channel switch.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, despite wanting it to seem like a big match, it just seemed like a long, drawn out match. I had no real desire to watch it. Throwing in Kevin Nash and the "interference that wasn't interference" and I just shook my head. Controversy!!

--Karen/Nash/Kurt. Give them many onscreen segments. When they aren't on screen. Talk about them. Why pay attention to a tournament match with Storm/Young? Karen Angle was turned down!!!

--I like Eric Young. He's entertaining. I don't apologize.

Just a few opinions. Take them as you will.

I know we don't agree on much when it comes to WWE, but when it comes to TNA, you're dead on the money, man. Especially about Eric Young. I love the guy, honestly.

[royboy8]

Man dude, don't disect everything like it's really serious. Maybe just sit back and watch some wrestling. If you do that, you may start actually enjoying yourself instead of trying to break everything down "smark style" all the time...