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Post by willywonka666 on Oct 30, 2007 19:55:02 GMT -5
Hogan gets a lot of criticism, and please, I'm not trying to start an argument here, but what matches did he have, that you think he shoulda done the job?
He had so many matches, I'm talking the major ones of course, and don't let your like or dislike of Hogan or his opponents sway you.
I'll have to think on this and I gotta go in a minute so I'll post later. please explain by the way
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 30, 2007 20:04:49 GMT -5
vs. the Twin Towers on The Main Event after Savage slapped him in the face and walked off. Him losing to both would have built up the importance of the Mega Powers split and Hulk would have lost nothing being beaten by Bossman and Akeem.
vs. The Alliance to End Hulkamania at Uncensored 96. It was 8 on 2 Folks. Hogan getting defeated and beat down there, would have allowed for him to take some time off and then have even more motivation to turn on WCW at the Bash at the Beach.
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Post by wolfmoon103100 on Oct 30, 2007 20:10:30 GMT -5
Orndorff should have won the title in the cage match they had, that was awesome.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Oct 30, 2007 20:11:16 GMT -5
He should have lost to Andre at Wrestlemania IV. Not clean of course but the double elimination was just stupid.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Oct 30, 2007 20:13:13 GMT -5
Orndorff should have won the title in the cage match they had, that was awesome. I would've loved to have seen Orndorff get it either in the cage or at the Big Event, looking back on it, but at the time I was a mark for Hogan. |
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Oct 30, 2007 20:15:38 GMT -5
Orndorff should have won the title in the cage match they had, that was awesome. I came in here to say that. I'd also like to suggest that Hogan should have lost to Piper (by cheating) at The War to Settle the Score...or at least yielded a non-finish without a run-in. Yes, Hulkamania probably would have been stunted, but I've always been of the opinion that WrestleMania I is weak as hell because there's no World Title match. Hogan v. Piper (with Mr. T v. Orndorff pushed to the undercard) for the World Title would have been much more compelling and set the tone for WrestleManias to come. |
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Post by wwerules60 on Oct 30, 2007 20:15:59 GMT -5
Orton at Summerslam. There was no reason for Hogan to go over there.
Also Both of his Rumble wins, they could have got someone else really over with those.
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Post by big nasty on Oct 30, 2007 20:20:44 GMT -5
none, really.
he was a "good always triumphs" character in the WWF. losing cleanly would have destroyed the character. once the ultimate warrior and undertaker began to approach his popularity, things changed a bit. but there wasnt any good reason for him to lose before then.
he jobbed (or at least got his ass kicked) plenty in later WCW, during the nWo story. though i didnt watch enough to remember much of his pre-nWo wcw run.
personally, i after WM 3 i started to like other wreslters more, and wanted him to lose every match he was in.
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Post by krazysane on Oct 30, 2007 20:24:11 GMT -5
Every match since the year 1998
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Oct 30, 2007 20:27:18 GMT -5
Orton at Summerslam. There was no reason for Hogan to go over there. Except to stand up for the honor of his daughter. I know it may seem corny and all, but the crowd loved it and it's not like Orton was doing a whole lot after that match anyways as he was toiling around in a boring feud with Carlito and losing to the likes of Jeff Hardy and Flair in the weeks following it. |
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Post by wwerules60 on Oct 30, 2007 20:29:43 GMT -5
Orton at Summerslam. There was no reason for Hogan to go over there. Except to stand up for the honor of his daughter. I know it may seem corny and all, but the crowd loved it and it's not like Orton was doing a whole lot after that match anyways as he was toiling around in a boring feud with Carlito and losing to the likes of Jeff Hardy and Flair in the weeks following it. Orton was still doing the Legend killer gimmick, he should have beat Hogan. I'm not an Orton fan but he should have won that match. |
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Oct 30, 2007 20:34:22 GMT -5
none, really. he was a "good always triumphs" character in the WWF. losing cleanly would have destroyed the character. once the ultimate warrior and undertaker began to approach his popularity, things changed a bit. but there wasnt any good reason for him to lose before then. he jobbed (or at least got his ass kicked) plenty in later WCW, during the nWo story. though i didnt watch enough to remember much of his pre-nWo wcw run. personally, i after WM 3 i started to like other wreslters more, and wanted him to lose every match he was in. Pre-nWo, Hogan was champ from the moment he got into well over a year. He destroyed every one in a matter of minutes, including Ric Flair. |
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Post by Cyborg Franky on Oct 30, 2007 20:44:14 GMT -5
The match against HBK at Summerslam 2005
Orton at Summerslam 2006
against Yokozona at the end of Wrestlemania IX - He shouldn't been there at the first place.
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Post by big nasty on Oct 30, 2007 20:45:24 GMT -5
none, really. he was a "good always triumphs" character in the WWF. losing cleanly would have destroyed the character. once the ultimate warrior and undertaker began to approach his popularity, things changed a bit. but there wasnt any good reason for him to lose before then. he jobbed (or at least got his ass kicked) plenty in later WCW, during the nWo story. though i didnt watch enough to remember much of his pre-nWo wcw run. personally, i after WM 3 i started to like other wreslters more, and wanted him to lose every match he was in. Pre-nWo, Hogan was champ from the moment he got into well over a year. He destroyed every one in a matter of minutes, including Ric Flair. as a flair fan, i would have hated that, if i had been watching then. missed a few years between the flair/sid/hogan royal rumble ending, and the nWo rise, heh |
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Post by fabulousfreebird on Oct 30, 2007 20:46:36 GMT -5
The HBK match at Summerslam 2006.
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Post by soultsukino on Oct 30, 2007 20:51:14 GMT -5
The twin towers match in '89. Hell, it didn't even have to be clean, and it didn't even have to be hogan (Savage getting squashed and pinned would have worked too) but hogan beating both guys by himself just made it look bad (Espocially with the Cage match with the bossman in about a month)
Royal Rumble 1990. I can get 1991's win, but the win in 1990 was pretty much pointless.
Ric Flair in 1994. Not the first match, but the rematch at the Clash of Champions.
The Giant at Halloween Havoc 1995. Not becasue the giant deserved it, but becasue that contract foolishness they tried to use as the explination the next night on Nitro was one of the most contrived things I ever heard. It doesn't have to be clean, but Hogan losing the title via double dry humping was a ittle inane
To Roddy Piper more then once, a non clean job in the 80's (just one) and drop the title to him at Starrcade '96. Hell, he lost the match to the sleeper, just give roddy the damn title for a month instead of hiding the fact it wasn't a title match and then bsing after the match for 20 minutes.
To someone OTHER then Billy Kidman in the New Blood storyline. Yeah, Kidman beat him, but was that the best they could do? your telling me you could put over Mike Awesome, Bam Bam, Shane Douglas or someone who Maybe, JUST MAYBE had a chance to be a headliner in WCW and could actually use that momentum to headline.
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Post by YouStayClassy on Oct 30, 2007 20:59:57 GMT -5
Mr. Perfect at Saturday Night's Main event.
And I'm going to second the Wrestlemania IX one.... COMPLETE GARBAGE. If only Vince'd had faith in Bret back then.....
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Post by silverking on Oct 30, 2007 21:05:47 GMT -5
To Sting both times, to the Horsemen at Fallbrawl.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Oct 30, 2007 21:13:10 GMT -5
Starrcade '97 to Sting. CLEAN.
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Post by willywonka666 on Oct 30, 2007 21:14:20 GMT -5
The twin towers match in '89. Hell, it didn't even have to be clean, and it didn't even have to be hogan (Savage getting squashed and pinned would have worked too) but hogan beating both guys by himself just made it look bad (Espocially with the Cage match with the bossman in about a month) Royal Rumble 1990. I can get 1991's win, but the win in 1990 was pretty much pointless. Ric Flair in 1994. Not the first match, but the rematch at the Clash of Champions. The Giant at Halloween Havoc 1995. Not becasue the giant deserved it, but becasue that contract foolishness they tried to use as the explination the next night on Nitro was one of the most contrived things I ever heard. It doesn't have to be clean, but Hogan losing the title via double dry humping was a ittle inane To Roddy Piper more then once, a non clean job in the 80's (just one) and drop the title to him at Starrcade '96. Hell, he lost the match to the sleeper, just give roddy the damn title for a month instead of hiding the fact it wasn't a title match and then bsing after the match for 20 minutes. To someone OTHER then Billy Kidman in the New Blood storyline. Yeah, Kidman beat him, but was that the best they could do? your telling me you could put over Mike Awesome, Bam Bam, Shane Douglas or someone who Maybe, JUST MAYBE had a chance to be a headliner in WCW and could actually use that momentum to headline. Actually Awesome did beat him on Nitro, albeit with interference. I don't think Orton should have gone over Hogan for the simple fact, that that woulda sealed the legend killer gimmick-he of all people just shouldn't be the one to beat Hogan IMO, besides, as mad as Vince gets at Hogan, they'd probably call randy "The Hulk Hogan Killer" for years to come out of pettiness |
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