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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Nov 1, 2007 23:49:39 GMT -5
I really am enjoying TNA more and more. Everyone was mocking the idea that two hours would turn them around, but... it really has.
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Post by angryfan on Nov 1, 2007 23:55:39 GMT -5
I'm not back on the TNA bandwagon just yet. The product has improved, and I'll give them their due on that one, but they need (for me anyway) at least two months of two hours shows before I start saying that it "fixed everything".
Really, my only problem with the show is one that, sadly, I don't see them going out of their way to ever fix, and that's the overemphasis on the top belt at the expense of everything else on the roster. The E does it too, and I hate it when they do it, so it's not just me being picky.
Not everyone can go after "the world title" so make whatever it is they're after (be it personal vendetta or the X-division title) seem nearly as important, and don't relegate it to some throw-away match between Angle or Sting promos.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Nov 1, 2007 23:58:51 GMT -5
Have the ratings gone up at all? It seems like they are still at the 1.0/1.2 ratings level. At least they aren't decreasing in ratings I guess.
The one hour show seemed like it was 2 hours in one. The 2 hours show seems like it's 4 hours in two. I forget a lot of stuff that happens.
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Post by jobber2thestars on Nov 1, 2007 23:59:11 GMT -5
It was a good show, but there were too many WWE references in there, tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2007 1:01:11 GMT -5
TNA has been better than WWE for a long time. Not necessarily because Impact! is the greatest show I've ever seen. But because WWE has been so awful even WSX was more entertaining.
And stop brining up ratings for everything. There's been Adam Sandler movies that made a 100 million dollars and Oscar award winners that made nothing.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Nov 2, 2007 1:25:11 GMT -5
Ratings should be the most important thing in TNA. But whatever.
I got to admit I found the Team 3d Interview funny. Especially when Buh Buh was talking about the IWC.
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Post by HRH The KING on Nov 2, 2007 1:29:03 GMT -5
It's OK.
Needs fewer washed-up WWE cast-offs though.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 2, 2007 1:32:11 GMT -5
TNA always cures my Insomnia as I fell asleep again during a Chris Harris match. TNA will never be better than WWE if they still have Tenay/West doing commentary. They ruin it for me. Oh, they need to cut their mics during promos. We know the heel is lying or exaggerrating, Tenay. Shut the f--- up. Tenay and West present: Cliffs Notes for TNA
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 2, 2007 1:33:03 GMT -5
TNA has been better than WWE for a long time. Not necessarily because Impact! is the greatest show I've ever seen. But because WWE has been so awful even WSX was more entertaining. And stop brining up ratings for everything. There's been Adam Sandler movies that made a 100 million dollars and Oscar award winners that made nothing. There isn't an oscar equivalent for Wrestling, this analogy is flawed. Also TNA's buyrates are still nothing of major concern, so it ain't that.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Nov 2, 2007 1:35:57 GMT -5
you cant really compare the two. they are totally different. its like saying country music is better than rap... they both have their good and bad points
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Post by comahan on Nov 2, 2007 1:38:17 GMT -5
you cant really compare the two. they are totally different. its like saying country music is better than rap... they both have their good and bad points Cue the TNA is WWE Lite comment.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 2, 2007 2:44:18 GMT -5
Really, my only problem with the show is one that, sadly, I don't see them going out of their way to ever fix, and that's the overemphasis on the top belt at the expense of everything else on the roster. The E does it too, and I hate it when they do it, so it's not just me being picky. Not everyone can go after "the world title" so make whatever it is they're after (be it personal vendetta or the X-division title) seem nearly as important, and don't relegate it to some throw-away match between Angle or Sting promos. Um, the tag titles were defended in the main event.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 2, 2007 3:04:21 GMT -5
Really, my only problem with the show is one that, sadly, I don't see them going out of their way to ever fix, and that's the overemphasis on the top belt at the expense of everything else on the roster. The E does it too, and I hate it when they do it, so it's not just me being picky. Not everyone can go after "the world title" so make whatever it is they're after (be it personal vendetta or the X-division title) seem nearly as important, and don't relegate it to some throw-away match between Angle or Sting promos. Um, the tag titles were defended in the main event. That's true.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2007 4:54:17 GMT -5
TNA has been better than WWE for a long time. Not necessarily because Impact! is the greatest show I've ever seen. But because WWE has been so awful even WSX was more entertaining. And stop brining up ratings for everything. There's been Adam Sandler movies that made a 100 million dollars and Oscar award winners that made nothing. There isn't an oscar equivalent for Wrestling, this analogy is flawed. Also TNA's buyrates are still nothing of major concern, so it ain't that. Uhm. No actually. My point was that good entertainment often bombs while crappy entertainment often sells through the roof. It's like saying a band sucks because they didn't sell as much records as Britney Spears or Nsync. TNA is like the NHL in the sense that its not so much whats on the screen thats bad, as much as the marketing. If you ask the average mark why they don't watch TNA, they wouldn't say "Because it's too confusing and full of ex-wwe has beens". They'd say "What the hell is TNA?".
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 2, 2007 6:11:09 GMT -5
There isn't an oscar equivalent for Wrestling, this analogy is flawed. Also TNA's buyrates are still nothing of major concern, so it ain't that. If you ask the average mark why they don't watch TNA, they wouldn't say "Because it's too confusing and full of ex-wwe has beens". They'd say "What the hell is TNA?". Or make the obivious sexual reference when I first heard of TNA. ;D
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 2, 2007 6:16:41 GMT -5
"better THEN WWE" Do you design Randy Orton's shirts? I like TNA lately, but I still generally prefer WWE. ROH actually did that also with CM Punk's shirt back in the day "Better then you".
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 2, 2007 7:44:09 GMT -5
i have enjoyed tna more for quite a while. i really enjoy in ring work and even before two hours i still enjoyed impact to other wwe shows. the only wwe show i get near as pumped for is ecw, and with the same matches happening over and over it gets a bit tiring. i don't really care about them hiring ex wwe guys because honestly i do not think it is as horrible of a deal as people make it out to be. indie wrestling and mainstream wrestling are two similar yet different things. there is a difference and to me hiring someone who worked at the only other business in your market is not so much bad as getting someone who can do it. we can make the complaints all we want saying "yea but the dudleys are too old! i don't care if them putting younger teams over them gives them a big rub for beating a classic tag team!" but fact is i think all of the wwe "cast offs" do pretty well. it is not as though the wwe pushes all young talent either, case in point hhh is older than both dudleys.
i just think there are plenty of double standards (tna tries to get established names so they are living in the past and have a hard on for the wwe, where as the wwe can have a huge hard on for second generation wrestlers and put them over up and coming talent left and right and it is no problem) that really annoy me.
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Post by poi zen rana on Nov 2, 2007 7:54:52 GMT -5
i would also like to compliment tna on their ability to use people to their strengths. when dustin rhodes came over i wasn't that into it. however, almost every match black reign is in, is geared towards having a good amount of brawling which in my opinion dustin is pretty good at. i do not enjoy seeing him trying to wrestle mat classics so their use of him in more of a brawling and hardcore environment in my mind was a good decision.
i think team 3d are also currently being used to their strengths. bubba has always been good at playing the mean heel. he gets very good crowd reaction and really angers people. team 3d can't put on matches as they once did which is why i think short and violent attacks are another forte of theirs.
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Post by The OP on Nov 2, 2007 8:23:34 GMT -5
I think the level of talent in both companies is about equal, but WWE translates to TV better.
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Post by Cypress on Nov 2, 2007 8:53:30 GMT -5
booking is still atrocious
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