TNA is better then WWE

[Timmy8271]

I liked Harris when he was in a tag team. It's just obvious James Storm is above him in almost anything. I've grown to like James the past couple weeks.

About the Women's division, I still don't get who's supposed to be heels and faces between Angel Williams and Talia? One week Talia is slapping hands with fans and the next minute she's hitting Borash in the balls. That automatically should make her a face. And i'm already getting kinda bored with Kong. I want to see her be TNA's Chyna and fight men.

[Randy Barber 4-Life]

poisonrana said:

estrada said:

I like TNA but why not just rename the damn thing to Total Nonstop Angle already. How many freaking times do they need to show him in some stupid skit backstage? Every chance they had they would cut to the back to show him and it was annoying as hell. Also Sabin and Shelley seemed WEAK on the mic.

well to put it in perspective angle was showing up most of last night's impact, but is it really that different from vince appearing and interrogating everyone about his illegitimate leprechaun?

It was very different. Angle and Borash were funny, we got a Shockmaster mention, and Jay Lethal got to look back on his legendary WrestleMania match with Ultimate Warrior.

[Welfare Willis]

randybarber4life said:

poisonrana said:

well to put it in perspective angle was showing up most of last night's impact, but is it really that different from vince appearing and interrogating everyone about his illegitimate leprechaun?

It was very different. Angle and Borash were funny, we got a Shockmaster mention, and Jay Lethal got to look back on his legendary WrestleMania match with Ultimate Warrior.

And Angle can actually wrestle.

[plushtar]

poisonrana said:

estrada said:

I like TNA but why not just rename the damn thing to Total Nonstop Angle already. How many freaking times do they need to show him in some stupid skit backstage? Every chance they had they would cut to the back to show him and it was annoying as hell. Also Sabin and Shelley seemed WEAK on the mic.

well to put it in perspective angle was showing up most of last night's impact, but is it really that different from vince appearing and interrogating everyone about his illegitimate leprechaun?

No, both were pretty damned funny. Although, the edge has to go to TNA for having Talia Madison knee Borash in the gut and for helping Borash grow a personality. It may not be the Team 3D funeral, but its up their with great TNA skits.

[Ringmaster]

ive always been found of tna ever sense the one hour days on (obscure sports channel), the main reason i love it is its a breath of fresh air from what wwe is presenting:

(wwe)
1:HHH champion agian.....thats new
2:HBK possibly champon.......so much for pushing new talent
3:Tag team division.....4 teams, nuff said
4:Cruiserweights......there's a cruiserweight divison?
5:womens divison.....diva search nuff said

granted tna has many flaws for one next week scott hall return's and nash is in the title hunt both these men should be no where near the ring.

Angle has gotten a bit too much camera time, yeah we get it you got angle from vince, great now please show someone else besides him and his wife.

and the world title being defended in a tag match.......wtf?

[Ace Diamond]

brentreznor said:

aodpilot said:

There isn't an oscar equivalent for Wrestling, this analogy is flawed. Also TNA's buyrates are still nothing of major concern, so it ain't that.

Uhm. No actually. My point was that good entertainment often bombs while crappy entertainment often sells through the roof.

It's like saying a band sucks because they didn't sell as much records as Britney Spears or Nsync.

TNA is like the NHL in the sense that its not so much whats on the screen thats bad, as much as the marketing.

If you ask the average mark why they don't watch TNA, they wouldn't say "Because it's too confusing and full of ex-wwe has beens". They'd say "What the hell is TNA?".

And then they watch it and are driven away laughing their ass off at stupid crap that occurs more often than it should.

Example: I have a friend who will watch the WWE and sorta shake his head at it but still watch it and like it somewhat. He then tried to watch TNA...needless to say Judas Mesias made him laugh out loud and walk away.

So yeah, that's MY focus group.

And to be fair, I like a decent amount of what is on TNA programming right now, there's also a lot I DON'T like. Like say, defending the World Championship in yet another tag match. Or Samoa Joe beating Christian at Bound for Glory and instead of going up the card is now feuding with Robert Roode.

[hollywood]

santa said:

1:HHH champion agian.....thats new
2:HBK possibly champon.......so much for pushing new talent

Randy Orton is champ, and HBK recently jobbed to him (missed this week's episode, though)?

[comahan]

When did HBK job to Orton? Its been DQ... DQ... Superkick.. Superkick.. Superkick.. Superkick and so on.

If a veteran (hbk) in TNA kept dodging the young champion (orton) and continually getting the better of him in every situation, there would be MASSIVE uproar.

[comahan]

aodpilot said:

brentreznor said:

Uhm. No actually. My point was that good entertainment often bombs while crappy entertainment often sells through the roof.

It's like saying a band sucks because they didn't sell as much records as Britney Spears or Nsync.

TNA is like the NHL in the sense that its not so much whats on the screen thats bad, as much as the marketing.

If you ask the average mark why they don't watch TNA, they wouldn't say "Because it's too confusing and full of ex-wwe has beens". They'd say "What the hell is TNA?".

And then they watch it and are driven away laughing their ass off at stupid crap that occurs more often than it should.

Example: I have a friend who will watch the WWE and sorta shake his head at it but still watch it and like it somewhat. He then tried to watch TNA...needless to say Judas Mesias made him laugh out loud and walk away.

So yeah, that's MY focus group.

And to be fair, I like a decent amount of what is on TNA programming right now, there's also a lot I DON'T like. Like say, defending the World Championship in yet another tag match. Or Samoa Joe beating Christian at Bound for Glory and instead of going up the card is now feuding with Robert Roode.

The only place up the card Joe could have gone is to Angle. And god knows they've feuded enough over the last year. You seem to be taking this as Joe being moved down the card. I think its more Roode being moved up. Roode did, afterall, initiate the feud costing Joe the FFTR match against Christian.

[hollywood]

comahan said:

When did HBK job to Orton? Its been DQ... DQ... Superkick.. Superkick.. Superkick.. Superkick and so on.

If a veteran (hbk) in TNA kept dodging the young champion (orton) and continually getting the better of him in every situation, there would be MASSIVE uproar.

Hey, I admitted I haven't watched. My main point was that Orton, a new guy, is champ. Not HHH or HBK.

[comahan]

And I actually really like Orton AND HBK, for what its worth. I also love the storyline of HBK coming back after the kick of doom (which i also mark for) to get his revenge.

Im just not fond of HBK laying the champ out every week and the two already having had 2 matches.

[hollywood]

comahan said:

And I actually really like Orton AND HBK, for what its worth. I also love the storyline of HBK coming back after the kick of doom (which i also mark for) to get his revenge.

Im just not fond of HBK laying the champ out every week and the two already having had 2 matches.

They're desperate to boost ratings right now, so they've been trying to give away PPV matches on free tv. Not saying it's a good excuse, but that's the situation.

[Ringmaster]

hollywood said:

comahan said:

When did HBK job to Orton? Its been DQ... DQ... Superkick.. Superkick.. Superkick.. Superkick and so on.

If a veteran (hbk) in TNA kept dodging the young champion (orton) and continually getting the better of him in every situation, there would be MASSIVE uproar.

Hey, I admitted I haven't watched. My main point was that Orton, a new guy, is champ. Not HHH or HBK.

i ment that there both int he title hunt, and if you think triple h isnt going to win the title your just kidding yourself, while both are great they really need to get some new talent into the mix.

[comahan]

hollywood said:

comahan said:

And I actually really like Orton AND HBK, for what its worth. I also love the storyline of HBK coming back after the kick of doom (which i also mark for) to get his revenge.

Im just not fond of HBK laying the champ out every week and the two already having had 2 matches.

They're desperate to boost ratings right now, so they've been trying to give away PPV matches on free tv. Not saying it's a good excuse, but that's the situation.

And realistically, what other options are there? Cena is hurt. Hardy isnt a main eventer. Kennedy is lingering the the mid/uppermid card, Booker is gone, and HHH/Orton has already happened 9986875 times, including twice for the title in one night @ No Mercy.

[Mozenrath]

comahan said:

hollywood said:

They're desperate to boost ratings right now, so they've been trying to give away PPV matches on free tv. Not saying it's a good excuse, but that's the situation.

And realistically, what other options are there? Cena is hurt. Hardy isnt a main eventer. Kennedy is lingering the the mid/uppermid card, Booker is gone, and HHH/Orton has already happened 9986875 times.

I think "desperate" is a bit of a stretch, as ratings have been going up and are constistantly above 3, which isn't very bad.

Jeff has been getting very good pops lately, and they seem to be pushing him harder, so who knows, maybe they'll go that route.

[hollywood]

comahan said:

hollywood said:

They're desperate to boost ratings right now, so they've been trying to give away PPV matches on free tv. Not saying it's a good excuse, but that's the situation.

And realistically, what other options are there? Cena is hurt. Hardy isnt a main eventer. Kennedy is lingering the the mid/uppermid card, Booker is gone, and HHH/Orton has already happened 9986875 times, including twice for the title in one night @ No Mercy.

Exactly. This is actually a pretty good time for TNA to capitalize and make some sort of impact that fans will notice.

Of course, that means they won't.

[comahan]

kiddobradley said:

comahan said:

And realistically, what other options are there? Cena is hurt. Hardy isnt a main eventer. Kennedy is lingering the the mid/uppermid card, Booker is gone, and HHH/Orton has already happened 9986875 times.

I think "desperate" is a bit of a stretch, as ratings have been going up and are constistantly above 3, which isn't very bad.

Jeff has been getting very good pops lately, and they seem to be pushing him harder, so who knows, maybe they'll go that route.

*I* Dont think theyre desperate, but I think theyre doing as much as possible to get away from the low 3 area they were at for a little bit. 3.5+ is still a spectacular rating imo (maybe not by wwe standards, but still), and theyre back up there now.

Youre right about Hardy. He might be the most over guy on raw. Hes up there with HHH at least. For now though, I think he'd be a great one month transitional feud with the champ. Id love for them to go that route though. Fresh faces in the main event scene is always nice.

[Mozenrath]

comahan said:

kiddobradley said:

I think "desperate" is a bit of a stretch, as ratings have been going up and are constistantly above 3, which isn't very bad.

Jeff has been getting very good pops lately, and they seem to be pushing him harder, so who knows, maybe they'll go that route.

*I* Dont think theyre desperate, but I think theyre doing as much as possible to get away from the low 3 area they were at for a little bit. 3.5+ is still a spectacular rating imo (maybe not by wwe standards, but still), and theyre back up there now.

Youre right about Hardy. He might be the most over guy on raw. Hes up there with HHH at least. For now though, I think he'd be a great one month transitional feud with the champ. Id love for them to go that route though. Fresh faces in the main event scene is always nice.

Maybe, with Orton trying to be both champs at once, with Jeff being able to fend him off.

[Timmy8271]

3:Tag team division.....4 teams, nuff said

Cade/Murdoch
London/Kendrick
Holly/Rhodes
WGTT
Jesse/Festus
Deuce/Domino
Highlanders

I'm not that good in math but I think that's more than "four teams." One thing that both WWE/TNA have good right now is tag teams. I think they are nice teams.

[comahan]

timmy8271 said:

3:Tag team division.....4 teams, nuff said

Cade/Murdoch
London/Kendrick
Holly/Rhodes
WGTT
Jesse/Festus
Deuce/Domino
Highlanders

I'm not that good in math but I think that's more than "four teams." One thing that both WWE/TNA have good right now is tag teams. I think they are nice teams.

Well, 2 of those never wrestle the others. Raw has a solid division in terms of talent though, and the matches are fine, but its like, just there. Theres nothing that stands out about it.