TNA is better then WWE

[Timmy8271]

Well that is true. But it only takes a couple months of the same matches for it to get stale again. TNA's tag division is the one thing that keeps me coming back to TNA.

[The OP]

hitmanmark said:

taxcollector said:

I think a lot of it depends on what you're looking for as a fan. I find it ironic that WWE gets the reputation for being too "sports entertainment", because I think one of the stronger points of WWE is that it's more old school and has more of a classic pro wrestling feel. The Cena/Orton feud is a good example of this. It's one of the better old fashioned clear cut babyface/heel feuds that's happened in recent years IMO.

One could argue that this style is outdated, but it just depends on what you want to see. I personally like this style of booking and the in-ring style.

I think where that falls a bit short is when you think about just HOW old school they go.

I hear what you're saying (and, far as I can tell, you're right), but I know, for me, what always annoyed me with the WWE in recent years was that guys were never really allowed to get over utilizing what they can do in the ring.

I'm not talking about workrate; I'm talking about letting guys show off their personalities beyond simply working a gimmick, or using certain movesets that really fit the character/personality they're playing. Things just seem too uniform, when each wrestler's style, both in and out of the ring, should feel unique.

In their defense, I think WWE is afraid that a big segment of their audience wouldn't really grasp that, and it might demand them to pay more attention, which some people (I'm mainly talking about children) could react negatively to. Ergo, "dumbing it down" a bit comes into play, and I can't totally blame them in some aspects of that.

But I do think they sell their audience short a bit. If the wrestlers really do work on their personalities based on what they show, say, and do IN the ring, I think the crowd would catch on very quickly, and more guys would get over.

Unless I'm not understanding what you're saying, I'm gonna have to disagree. Triple H is nothing like Cena who's nothing like Orton who's nothing like Umaga who's nothing like Jeff Hardy, etc. There is a big variety of different types of wrestlers in WWE.

[Mozenrath]

caroudabush said:

zeus said:

booking is still atrocious

And Coach vs Foley isn't?

I saw that match. Decent comedy segment. Your point?

[AriadosMan]

I admit that I find TNA more interesting to watch than WWE. I'm not sure whether it's the "better" kind of intersting or the "so bad it's good" kind of interesting, though.

[HMARK Center]

taxcollector said:

hitmanmark said:

I think where that falls a bit short is when you think about just HOW old school they go.

I hear what you're saying (and, far as I can tell, you're right), but I know, for me, what always annoyed me with the WWE in recent years was that guys were never really allowed to get over utilizing what they can do in the ring.

I'm not talking about workrate; I'm talking about letting guys show off their personalities beyond simply working a gimmick, or using certain movesets that really fit the character/personality they're playing. Things just seem too uniform, when each wrestler's style, both in and out of the ring, should feel unique.

In their defense, I think WWE is afraid that a big segment of their audience wouldn't really grasp that, and it might demand them to pay more attention, which some people (I'm mainly talking about children) could react negatively to. Ergo, "dumbing it down" a bit comes into play, and I can't totally blame them in some aspects of that.

But I do think they sell their audience short a bit. If the wrestlers really do work on their personalities based on what they show, say, and do IN the ring, I think the crowd would catch on very quickly, and more guys would get over.

Unless I'm not understanding what you're saying, I'm gonna have to disagree. Triple H is nothing like Cena who's nothing like Orton who's nothing like Umaga who's nothing like Jeff Hardy, etc. There is a big variety of different types of wrestlers in WWE.

I admit to not having watched for awhile, but I'm just going by what I remember; once the bell rang in a lot of matches, things would just fall into a predictable pattern, and no wrestler would do much to distinguish themselves from another.

Like, for me, personally, I don't feel like WWE distinguishes much between styles, per se. Cena vs. Trips obviously wouldn't be the same EXACT match as, say, Orton vs. Kennedy, but there wouldn't be enough in terms of pacing, in terms of match structure, and in terms of in-ring behavior to make me feel like each guy is strikingly unique.

[razzle98]

tna is obviously better then wwe currently, why is crap like coach vs hornswoggle defended? besides pacman jones what has tna done thats so bad, most ppl just afraid of tna killin wwe, why so many ppl hate tna its not that bad

[razzle98]

lets see all the crap has wwe done this year, hornswoggle vs coach, hornswoggle is vinces son, hosses in the main event like smackdown this week, rosie/trump, kfed, john cena , batista, lashley as champs, vince ecw champ etc. here bad tna stuff kurt angle hold all belts, pacman jones, black reign, vkm thats all....

[Adam Pacman Khan (akkilla)]

razzle98 said:

tna is obviously better then wwe currently, why is crap like coach vs hornswoggle defended? besides pacman jones what has tna done thats so bad, most ppl just afraid of tna killin wwe, why so many ppl hate tna its not that bad

Man how i wish TNA would kill wwe Or at least come close.

Dont get me wrong here im the TNA mark4lyfezors11 i was even a mongoose during the anti-tna days of this board. But i dont think wwe is in danger of tna just yet.

[Ace Diamond]

razzle98 said:

tna is obviously better then wwe currently, why is crap like coach vs hornswoggle defended? besides pacman jones what has tna done thats so bad, most ppl just afraid of tna killin wwe, why so many ppl hate tna its not that bad

I didn't realize people were defending Hornswaggle vs. Coach (they weren't)

I don't get why some of the people on this board think the people on the WWE board think WWE is faultless.

[GaTechGrad]

This might not make sense, but I think of "Booker T" still as a WCW guy, and "King Booker" as a WWE guy. So if he comes to TNA with the Burger King gimmick, then yeah, he'll just seem like another ex-WWE guy. What I would really hope for is a Harlem Heat reunion to feud with Styles and Tomko.

[razzle98]

that x division 3d promo this week was great, not heard a promo like that in the wwe for a long time, now if only tna build from this and get better

[wwerules60]

razzle98 said:

lets see all the crap has wwe done this year, hornswoggle vs coach, hornswoggle is vinces son, hosses in the main event like smackdown this week, rosie/trump, kfed, john cena , batista, lashley as champs, vince ecw champ etc. here bad tna stuff kurt angle hold all belts, pacman jones, black reign, vkm thats all....

Grammar is your friend.

[metylerca]

razzle98 said:

lets see all the crap has wwe done this year, hornswoggle vs coach, hornswoggle is vinces son, hosses in the main event like smackdown this week, rosie/trump, kfed, john cena , batista, lashley as champs, vince ecw champ etc. here bad tna stuff kurt angle hold all belts, pacman jones, black reign, vkm thats all....

..rikishi, Hard Justice, Blindfold Cage, Electric Cage, overbooking on a constant basis, Mike Tenay and Don West still commentating, Trademarc, Mascot.... yep... TNA has less problems than WWE

Cena as champ was relatively inoffensive to me, Batista's constant title shots was crappy and i'll agree there. Lashley as well. Kfed actually worked to piss people off, as was the point of him being a heel.

[twiggy101]

I don't know what is worse: Hornswoggle as cruiserweight champion or Pacman as a tag team champion.

[Michael Coello]

metylerca said:

razzle98 said:

lets see all the crap has wwe done this year, hornswoggle vs coach, hornswoggle is vinces son, hosses in the main event like smackdown this week, rosie/trump, kfed, john cena , batista, lashley as champs, vince ecw champ etc. here bad tna stuff kurt angle hold all belts, pacman jones, black reign, vkm thats all....

..rikishi, Hard Justice, Blindfold Cage, Electric Cage, overbooking on a constant basis, Mike Tenay and Don West still commentating, Trademarc, Mascot.... yep... TNA has less problems than WWE

Wait a minute?

Trademarc is a problem? What the hell did he do except do the theme? Same with the mascot besides showing up twice(once on PPV, and other on TV).

[metylerca]

sinister1 said:

metylerca said:

..rikishi, Hard Justice, Blindfold Cage, Electric Cage, overbooking on a constant basis, Mike Tenay and Don West still commentating, Trademarc, Mascot.... yep... TNA has less problems than WWE

Wait a minute?

Trademarc is a problem? What the hell did he do except do the theme? Same with the mascot besides showing up twice(once on PPV, and other on TV).

He came out on Hard Justice as the boyfriend of Karen Angle. Horrible angle, and yes, I have a huge bone to pick at that.
The mascot just made them look bush league. I mean c'mon, a mascot for a wrestling promotion?

Also, and this has been beaten to the ground enough, Vince Russo's employment. He may not be the head booker or even at the helm of what goes on TV, but you can tell where he's influencing certain things.

[twiggy101]

metylerca said:

sinister1 said:

Wait a minute?

Trademarc is a problem? What the hell did he do except do the theme? Same with the mascot besides showing up twice(once on PPV, and other on TV).

He came out on Hard Justice as the boyfriend of Karen Angle. Horrible angle, and yes, I have a huge bone to pick at that.
The mascot just made them look bush league. I mean c'mon, a mascot for a wrestling promotion?

Also, and this has been beaten to the ground enough, Vince Russo's employment. He may not be the head booker or even at the helm of what goes on TV, but you can tell where he's influencing certain things.

Is the TNA mascot worse than the Gobbledy Gooker?

[metylerca]

twiggy101 said:

metylerca said:

He came out on Hard Justice as the boyfriend of Karen Angle. Horrible angle, and yes, I have a huge bone to pick at that.
The mascot just made them look bush league. I mean c'mon, a mascot for a wrestling promotion?

Also, and this has been beaten to the ground enough, Vince Russo's employment. He may not be the head booker or even at the helm of what goes on TV, but you can tell where he's influencing certain things.

Is the TNA mascot worse than the Gobbledy Gooker?

Gooker is the Gooker for a reason. Gooker is at least worse because of the build-up. TNA should have remembered that, seeing how they are as WWE as WWE sometimes

[Ace Diamond]

twiggy101 said:

I don't know what is worse: Hornswoggle as cruiserweight champion or Pacman as a tag team champion.

At least Hornswaggle had wrestling training and could get in the ring without a lawsuit occuring.

[Michael Coello]

aodpilot said:

twiggy101 said:

I don't know what is worse: Hornswoggle as cruiserweight champion or Pacman as a tag team champion.

At least Hornswaggle had wrestling training and could get in the ring without a lawsuit occuring.

But at least someone won the belt from Pacman(even though not directly) instead of having the belt vacated and basically forgotten about.