Has TNA Outgrown the Six-Sided Ring?

[Palatial Regalia]

No, the whole point of the hexagon is resemble the MMA octagon and portray the illusion of more action. I think the 6 sided ring speeds up the action, even though tags have less distance to cover, thus heightening the action.

[BorneAgain]

I still think there could be a great heel character who arrives from outside the company and bitches about the six-sided ring, claiming its a health risk, and refusing to wrestle it in unless he has some handicaps, (winning with a two count, getting to have a 15 count outside the ring, etc).

[hollywood]

thestinger said:

hollywood said:

All I care about is whether or not I enjoy it. And I haven't enjoyed TNA for a long, long time.

According to you, you haven't watched TNA in a long, long time. The Ultimate X match at BFG was so good they're putting it on free tv.

Last year the quality took a huge hit when Russo showed up, but it's been six months since all the matches were five minutes long.

That was an unfortunate and thankfully brief period in TNA's history that IS history now that they have two hours.

Anyone who says the two hour shows aren't better doesn't know what they're talking about.

Not true. I watched this week's Impact, got sick of it real quick, and turned it off. Not exactly watching the product in-depth, but I did watch.

[thestinger]

I don't know what it is you're looking for. The first match was great. I don't know how anyone could flip the channel during that.

Yeah, there was a Dudley match, Lethal did his best to make it entertaining, but overall I don't think there was anything really bad.

If you don't mind my asking, what segment made you switch channels? Scott Hall? The women's match?

[Mozenrath]

It was a pretty good TNA, but I felt pretty stupid explaining a few of the angles to my brother, who doesn't watch wrestling. When I told him about the tag match for the title, he looked confused and asked why they would do it. I then told him about the Reverse Battle Royal, and he started laughing.

[hollywood]

thestinger said:

If you don't mind my asking, what segment made you switch channels? Scott Hall? The women's match?

I've b****ed about it in detail in the Genesis thread already. So I'll try not to get too drawn out...

I figured, with all the praise it's been getting, I'd check Impact out again this week. The TNApologists have been saying the matches are longer, run-in's are fewer, and the show is better. So I figured if they'd give me a decent opener, I'd watch the whole thing.

Cue Kaz/Christian. Which went on for 20 awesome minutes. Seriously, I enjoyed every moment, figuring I'd be watching the whole show, and I looked forward to it.

Cue AJ. Then Tomko. Then the ladder. And we had the same sort of tired run-in/shenanigan ending that turned me away from TNA in the first place, thus ruining what was a great match for me. I turned the TV off before Christian even made the cover.

[Mozenrath]

Yeah, having three run in endings was dumb, but Kaz and Black Machismo looked good being able to hold their own for a while.

The refs are complete idiots, though. Were they No DQ matches, or are they REALLY trying to suspend the disbelief, that you could sneak stuff like that past someone without a huge brain tumor? Because, well, it isn't working. The only one ending in DQ was AJ's, and it really wasn't much of a match.

[wolfmoon103100]

The ring seems a little to small to me. When you have 3 or 4 man tags you cant throw them into some ropes because it seems the wrestlers take up the space.

[thestinger]

hollywood said:

I turned the TV off before Christian even made the cover.

Then you missed the part where the match was ruled a no-contest, and the rematch that actually determines #1 contender takes place Sunday.

Yeah, it was a run-in, but it did what it was supposed to: It made me more likely to want to order the ppv to see the clean finish. It's a difficult balancing act. TNA can't do this TOO often as they used to, or none of the match results on TV matter.

If they don't do it all, then they're 'giving away too much for free.' This is the exact plan TNA hater Lance Storm claims TNA should do more of, that the old ECW would do to hype PPVs.

In my opinion, if they pull the old 'bait and switch' again on Sunday, then I'll feel ripped off, since I paid for a definitive winner.

[hollywood]

thestinger said:

hollywood said:

I turned the TV off before Christian even made the cover.

Then you missed the part where the match was ruled a no-contest, and the rematch that actually determines #1 contender takes place Sunday.

Oh, a no contest. Well that just makes it completely satisfying. My mistake.

Yeah, it was a run-in, but it did what it was supposed to: It made me more likely to want to order the ppv to see the clean finish. It's a difficult balancing act. TNA can't do this TOO often as they used to, or none of the match results on TV matter.

If they don't do it all, then they're 'giving away too much for free.' This is the exact plan TNA hater Lance Storm claims TNA should do more of, that the old ECW would do to hype PPVs.

In my opinion, if they pull the old 'bait and switch' again on Sunday, then I'll feel ripped off, since I paid for a definitive winner.

All it did was prove one thing for me: TNA is every bit as incapable of delivering a simple one-on-one match without some form of bulls*** interference as WWE.

I wanted one match. I didn't care if it involed Sharkboy and Jobber #12. Just one good bulls***-free match, and they couldn't give it to me.

I dunno, maybe I'm just asking too much.

[Mozenrath]

With the possible exception of the Invasion days, I don't think WWE ever went a show without a clean finish.

[Michael Coello]

If you don't like the 6 sided ring, you are a racist.

[pacino]

hollywood said:

thestinger said:

Then you missed the part where the match was ruled a no-contest, and the rematch that actually determines #1 contender takes place Sunday.

Oh, a no contest. Well that just makes it completely satisfying. My mistake.

Yeah, it was a run-in, but it did what it was supposed to: It made me more likely to want to order the ppv to see the clean finish. It's a difficult balancing act. TNA can't do this TOO often as they used to, or none of the match results on TV matter.

If they don't do it all, then they're 'giving away too much for free.' This is the exact plan TNA hater Lance Storm claims TNA should do more of, that the old ECW would do to hype PPVs.

In my opinion, if they pull the old 'bait and switch' again on Sunday, then I'll feel ripped off, since I paid for a definitive winner.

All it did was prove one thing for me: TNA is every bit as incapable of delivering a simple one-on-one match without some form of bulls*** interference as WWE.

I wanted one match. I didn't care if it involed Sharkboy and Jobber #12. Just one good bulls***-free match, and they couldn't give it to me.

I dunno, maybe I'm just asking too much.

You're just a complainer.

[thestinger]

hollywood said:

Oh, a no contest. Well that just makes it completely satisfying. My mistake.

Christian didn't win the title shot. The winner of the tournament was not determined by interference. There will be another awesome match between the two to determine the winner.

That DOES make it better.

hollywood said:

I wanted one match. I didn't care if it involed Sharkboy and Jobber #12. Just one good bulls***-free match, and they couldn't give it to me.

I dunno, maybe I'm just asking too much.

TNA has had some entire ppvs with nothing but clean finishes this year. If you needed the first match of this one specific impact to be a clean finish, otherwise you hate the company, then yeah, you're asking way too much.

[Randy Barber 4-Life]

I've stopped being as bothered by the six-sided ring as I was. Basically for whatever reason I've enjoyed the past 3-5 shows a lot more so most standing gripes have faded a little. The real problem I do still have with it is in tag matches. They put the partner on the apron on the opposite left-right corners. That's where they belong so fine, but during thewide shot of the ring they're off-screen. The control room seriously can't figure out how to zoom back just a little so that each partner is visible?

[hollywood]

thestinger said:

hollywood said:

Oh, a no contest. Well that just makes it completely satisfying. My mistake.

Christian didn't win the title shot. The winner of the tournament was not determined by interference. There will be another awesome match between the two to determine the winner.

That DOES make it better.

hollywood said:

I wanted one match. I didn't care if it involed Sharkboy and Jobber #12. Just one good bulls***-free match, and they couldn't give it to me.

I dunno, maybe I'm just asking too much.

TNA has had some entire ppvs with nothing but clean finishes this year. If you needed the first match of this one specific impact to be a clean finish, otherwise you hate the company, then yeah, you're asking way too much.

I don't hate the company, but I refuse to watch something that doesn't entertain me. For whatever it's worth, I watched them a good 15 minutes longer than ECW, who I switched off the momeny Mark Henry's music hit.

[Mozenrath]

thestinger said:

hollywood said:

Oh, a no contest. Well that just makes it completely satisfying. My mistake.

Christian didn't win the title shot. The winner of the tournament was not determined by interference. There will be another awesome match between the two to determine the winner.

That DOES make it better.

hollywood said:

I wanted one match. I didn't care if it involed Sharkboy and Jobber #12. Just one good bulls***-free match, and they couldn't give it to me.

I dunno, maybe I'm just asking too much.

TNA has had some entire ppvs with nothing but clean finishes this year. If you needed the first match of this one specific impact to be a clean finish, otherwise you hate the company, then yeah, you're asking way too much.

To be fair, having to pay for clean finishes kind of sucks. I understand for big feuds, but otherwise, blah.

[Randy Barber 4-Life]

lildude8218 said:

I still say that they need three rings with 3 sides each and then they can have 3 separate matches going at once.

And Angle can be involved in all three of those matches at once so people can still complain that he's overexposed.

[poi zen rana]

hollywood my man, if you hate run ins that much you will never like tna. give it up and quit fooling yourself and trying. you could complain about the percentage of unlcean finishes but if seeing just one case of interference makes you that upset then you had better find some other way to entertain yourself. i am sure you would have loved to see either christian or kaz pinned cleanly right before their big match they want people to pay to see, but i for one didn't. call me crazy but i enjoy the fact that not only did we get a sample of a christian/kaz match, but also both men are going into the match with their momentum.

as i said in the genesis thread, constant dirty finishes are annoying, but not every single match must end cleanly to keep me interested.

[thestinger]

Old school wrestling logic says (I know 'wrestling' and 'logic' are condradictory) that once there is a clean finish, the feud ends.

Therefore to have a series of matches,TNA bookers tend to add things like different stipulations as an excuse to keep the feud going.

My favorite TNA feud ever went this route. First LAX fought AJ Styles and Chris Daniels in a no DQ match. The rematch was Ultimate X. The final match was six sides of steel.

Sometimes I DO think it's unnecessary but it's the way they do it in TNA.

If they are trying to build a feud leading into a PPV match -- the odds of a clean finish before the PPV are pretty slim. I recognize they can't always give away clean finishes, so I'm just happy they gave us a great match on free tv.