Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Nov 15, 2007 23:30:20 GMT -5
Samoa Joe's Problem==Bad Booking Bingo, we have a winner.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Nov 16, 2007 0:06:00 GMT -5
I really thought that the Joe / Roode feud had potential, but it was dropped after the PPV like it never happened. I'm not sure why he's teaming with Hall and Nash, but at least it wasn't Syxx-Pac as the mystery partner.
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Post by jfpierce on Nov 16, 2007 0:13:49 GMT -5
Image wise, Samoa Joe's ony problem are the ridiculous shorts he wears.
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Post by samachine on Nov 16, 2007 0:35:45 GMT -5
Vader wasn't so much fat as he was huge, I mean you still saw his arms being ripped to high heaven, Joe, I don't see any tone at all.
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2007 0:45:53 GMT -5
Vader wasn't so much fat as he was huge, I mean you still saw his arms being ripped to high heaven, Joe, I don't see any tone at all. Well, in his legs. I'm just surprised with how flexible he is.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Nov 16, 2007 1:34:28 GMT -5
I thought Joe's thing was that he was a big man who was as quick and agile as a cruiserweight.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Nov 16, 2007 1:39:06 GMT -5
No bearded Joe pictures yet? Damn.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2007 2:01:20 GMT -5
No bearded Joe pictures yet? Damn. The newer, meaner Joe.
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Post by macdaddysquid on Nov 16, 2007 2:05:26 GMT -5
Joe is fine as is
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Post by kickassforumguyme on Nov 16, 2007 2:47:38 GMT -5
He just needs to wear a shirt like he did when he was in UPW
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wwerules60
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Post by wwerules60 on Nov 16, 2007 2:50:59 GMT -5
Who cares about the look of him. The wrestling is what is most important.
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Post by Samoa Kenny on Nov 16, 2007 2:58:52 GMT -5
I love Joe, obviously, but at the same time I think the casual wrestling fan looks at the guys and wants to see "larger than life" which is either extremely good (possibly steroidish) shape or a huge dude. Joe, while larger than most of us, sometimes can look like a normal guy whose a little soft around the middle
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 16, 2007 3:44:37 GMT -5
Who cares about the look of him. The wrestling is what is most important. Eh not really
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 16, 2007 6:33:07 GMT -5
When I first saw Joe, my initial impressions of his character were him seeming like some upper level character from Nintendo's "Punch Out". And I only mean this as a compliment.
He's got the old-school sounding name, comes out with the towel around the neck, the telegenic scowl, the unique body, and then he almost always beats the absolute pee out of people and they couldn't do anything about it.
I'm confused by those who wonder what his character is...I think he's always had a definitive character/gimmick as the cold calculating mothersmurfer who knows he's the toughest guy around and beats people up 'cause that's what he's best at, and TNA has stayed true to that character (and yes, even protected it), even though they haven't given him 97 World Titles.
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Post by I Graduated Warrior University on Nov 16, 2007 6:39:04 GMT -5
Who cares about the look of him. The wrestling is what is most important. The casual fans, the same fans that made Hulk Hogan the biggest draw in the history of the business.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 16, 2007 8:08:22 GMT -5
Booking hurts him. Back when the whole "JOOOOOOE'S GONNA KILLLLL YOU!" stuff started he was a cold, brutal heel and he seemed to have more legit "snap" to his moves. Now that he's a face and all smilin and kissin babies his aura of Samoan Wrecking Machine has been softened handily.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 16, 2007 8:21:34 GMT -5
I don't think I have the same problem with Joe that you do.
I just know he's boring me. Most things on Impact entertain me more than him right now. I never thought that would happen, but it has. "Serious Samoan" Joe is getting old
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Post by The OP on Nov 16, 2007 8:26:30 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more.
I think he's a great wrestler with a great look. I wouldn't change a thing.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Nov 16, 2007 8:28:17 GMT -5
Who cares about the look of him. The wrestling is what is most important. Kinda reminds me of Beyond the Mat, when Tony and Mike got their WWE tryouts. Behind the scenes, Cornette and JR did damn near nothing but praise them, but then when JR talked to the guys after, it was "Well, you need more tone, you need to work on your arms." I concur with what you said, wwerules60
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2007 16:00:40 GMT -5
Who cares about the look of him. The wrestling is what is most important. Kinda reminds me of Beyond the Mat, when Tony and Mike got their WWE tryouts. Behind the scenes, Cornette and JR did damn near nothing but praise them, but then when JR talked to the guys after, it was "Well, you need more tone, you need to work on your arms." I concur with what you said, wwerules60 Hopefully no one takes this the wrong way, but people wonder why wrestlers take steroids (ok, among other reasons too). There's your answer. Joe doesn't have a problem; he is a great talent that has a look that suits his style and a style that suits his work. He just needs a skilled pool of people to work with and well thought out programs.
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