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Post by The Nature Girl on Nov 16, 2007 15:46:29 GMT -5
Didn't know where to put this since this is covers more than the WWE and will probably affect TNA and other leagues that want to do shows in this particular state. This is a proposed new regulation adopted by the Georgia Athletic Comission with rules they want to implement if a wrestling organization wants to do a show there. There's supposed to be a hearing on this on December 18th. sos.georgia.gov/GAEC/pdf/Rule%20Amendments/Posting%20Wrestling%20Rules.pdfWhat do you guys think?
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Post by skiller on Nov 16, 2007 15:50:55 GMT -5
Christ, seems just a little restrictive.
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Nov 16, 2007 16:03:08 GMT -5
Someone needs to let Georgia know it's a work. I thought Kentucky was strict. Is Bill Watts running the commision up there.
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Post by big nasty on Nov 16, 2007 16:03:14 GMT -5
at about rule #20, i started to wonder if the georgia athletic comm. thinks wrestling is real
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 16, 2007 16:04:01 GMT -5
Don't book your fed in Georgia
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2007 16:04:49 GMT -5
Apart from a view pieces its basically putting the general rules of wrestling into official writing. And I like to enforcement of announcing card changes and giving refunds for those disappointed with the changes, will stop creepy promoters from false advertising.
However as good as it seems it does seem slightly extreme to demand an ambulance to be present at all times though I guess it makes sense. And all the additional fees for physicians and the cuts that goes to the commision is gonna put a lot of promoters off putting shows there. I doubt McMahon will like giving away 5% of the gross though I don't know if these type of charges elsewhere.
The only thing that effects us as fans really is a no blading rule. You can understand why they've put it in but it does rob what is a large part of wrestling, especially in londer dramatic matches. Plus stopping them from making any kind of threats at the audience seems unnecessary as it is always entertainly heelish. And the no under 18 unless with a guardian rule seems over-dramatic, me and my friends were going to wrestling events together since we were 15 and a rule like that would have pissed us off incredibly. Plus there seems to a be a total ban on hardcore or ladder matches though this isn't explicit as its worded to imply its only for singles matches. However I may be reading it wrong and my guess would be that its a total ban which will disappoint many fans.
The only real problem I have is the limits of wrestler apparel. Do they just want wrestlers in generic trunks? What will the inspectors deem as 'inappropriate' attire? Would someoe like Raven who wrestles in a shirt and jean shorts (or something else that is most definately not wrestling trunks, at least on top) be disqualified? This seems incredibly unnecessary.
Overall theres a few nice bits, designed at protecting wrestlers and the fans interests. But robbing wrestlers of their more unusual attires, cutting back on heel interaction, the ban on anything other than straight up normal rules matches and, to a smaller extent, the ban on blading will seriously harm the product. I don't see many promoters wanting to put shows on there now.
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Nov 16, 2007 16:14:13 GMT -5
Most states do have the 5% rule for promoters, i know Ohio does, Kentuckys is even higher i believe.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2007 16:16:10 GMT -5
Ah fair enough then, I guess its resonable. But my other points stand, its gonna serious limit the product and will hurt fans a lot.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 16, 2007 16:18:52 GMT -5
....yeah, WWE isn't coming back to Atlanta any time soon, probably.
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Post by Psy on Nov 16, 2007 16:19:37 GMT -5
Ones I don't completely agree with :
5) Before any event can take place a physician must be at ringside and stay at ringside throughout the event. The physician fee is paid by the promoter. Also, an ambulance with 2 EMTs must be present ringside throughout the event. There must be adequate security personnel in the arena to control fans and the wrestlers.
a) The ambulance will block the view of the match b) The cost of all this will be prohibitive for companies not called 'WWE' or 'TNA' c) Why the ambulance? Why not just the EMTs and their supplies?
7) No one under the age of 18 is allowed in any area of the venue other than their seat except when accompanied by a guardian
That doesn't make sense. So you're saying teens age 15+ can't piss without their daddy/mommy to hold their hand, huh? Just doesn't make sense. I know where they're going with this, and it's admirable that they are trying to protect minors, but the promoters are already required to have enough security to control the crowd (and the wrestlers, LOL) on hand, surely there will be some watching the routes to the lavatories.
11) A physical or verbal threat of aggression shall not be directed toward any member of the audience.
There goes the heat. I understand what they're going for, but still... they have security, remember?
12) All wrestling or entertainment shall take place either in the ring or within the partitioned-off portion of the gym or arena. Physical activity shall not be permitted between wrestlers, referee, or wrestling event staff in the audience or outside of the safety partition.
NO REF BUMPS?! How about 'no run-ins'? Or no roll-up finishes? No Dusty finishes? No? Just no ref bumps. Gotcha.
14) Wrestler’s Equipment a. A wrestler shall be clothed in clean apparel. b. A wrestler may wear two (2) pair of trunks, one (1) over the other. c. If a wrestler wears shoes, they shall be fitted with soft tops, soft smooth soles, soft laces and equipped with eyelets only. d. A wrestler may not have any grease, lotion, or foreign substances on the body. e. A female wrestler must wear trunks and a top. f. The inspector present at the event may disallow the use of inappropriate attire or disqualify a wrestling participant for the lack of appropriate attire.
.....a dress code? You must be joking. You must be.
15) Contestants shall have their fingernails trimmed closely.
.....okay, apparently you are not joking.
19) Conduct of Wrestling Contest. a. A wrestling contest shall be determined by: i. One (1) fall; or ii. Two (2) out of three (3) falls.
So no gimmick matches. At all. No 'stuff-on-a-pole', no 'ladder' matches, no 'iron-man' matches, no 'elimination-style' matches, no over-the-top-rope battle royales.....
(23) Prohibited activities: a. The following actions are prohibited: i. Inhibiting breathing by covering the nose and mouth at the same time; and ii. Unsportsmanlike or physically dangerous conduct. b. A wrestler continuing to engage in prohibited activities after sufficient warning may be disqualified by the referee. c. No wrestling contestant shall use a foreign object(s) or prop(s) with the deliberate intent to lacerate himself or herself, or one’s opponent. No animal blood or human blood, other than that of the wrestling contestants that is incidentally introduced during a match, may be used as a prop or special effect in any wrestling match. Vials, capsules or any vessel containing a gel substance appearing to be or simulating blood may be used as a prop or special effect during a wrestling contest so long as the container cannot cause lacerations upon breakage. d. The intent to use a foreign object(s) or prop(s) during a wrestling match must be disclosed to the commission prior to any wrestling contest and shall be subject to the approval of the commission. This shall include any vial, capsule or container holding a gel substance that is meant to simulate blood.
That whole section is ludicrous.
25) Tag Team Wrestling a. “Tag Team Wrestling” means a contest between two (2) teams each composed of two (2) or more wrestlers. b. The time limit for this type of contest shall be a maximum of sixty (60) minutes. c. A team shall be awarded a fall when a member of the team scores a fall against a member of the opposing team. d. A two (2-)minute rest period may be permitted between falls. e. A tag team contest shall be conducted as follows: i. The contest shall begin with one (1) wrestler from each team inside the ring while the respective partners remain outside the ring on the apron; ii. The wrestler(s) outside the ring may not enter the ring unless a fall is scored or his/her partner has tagged his/her hand; iii. In order to be eligible to receive a tag, the wrestler’s partner shall be outside the ring on the apron in the proper corner with both feet on the ring apron and only receive the tag over the top ring rope; iv. When the tag is made, the wrestler making the tag shall leave the ring as the partner enters the ring; v. Only two (2) wrestlers from opposing teams shall be permitted to be in the ring at any one (1) time; vi. After the scoring of a fall a wrestler may relieve the partner; vii. If a wrestler is unable to continue; the wrestler’s partner shall continue the contest alone; viii. The referee may call time after an injury to permit the injured wrestler to be removed from the ring; and ix. Release the rope provided in the team corner until officially tagged by the partner.
..............there are not words enough to describe how ridiculous this is.
It's so completely, incredibly STUPID[/B][/U][/SIZE].....
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Post by plushtar on Nov 16, 2007 16:20:22 GMT -5
#10. That kind of defeats kayfabe surprises. How would they react to run-ins? #11. Managers, the ghost of Fred Blassie, and Brother Ray are officially banned from Georgia. #12. No backstage skits or no possible return of the Brother Love show. #13. *Sigh* It's still real to them dammit! #14. Raven is officially banned from the State of Georgia. #21. Heels are officially banned from the State of Georgia.
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 16, 2007 16:21:24 GMT -5
#10. That kind of defeats kayfabe surprises. How would they react to run-ins? #11. Managers, the ghost of Fred Blassie, and Brother Ray are officially banned from Georgia. #13. *Sigh* It's still real to them dammit! #14. Raven is officially banned from the State of Georgia. #21. Heels are officially banned from the State of Georgia. Who isn't banned from the state of Georgia? Shark Boy?
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Nov 16, 2007 16:30:13 GMT -5
#10. That kind of defeats kayfabe surprises. How would they react to run-ins? #11. Managers, the ghost of Fred Blassie, and Brother Ray are officially banned from Georgia. #13. *Sigh* It's still real to them dammit! #14. Raven is officially banned from the State of Georgia. #21. Heels are officially banned from the State of Georgia. Who isn't banned from the state of Georgia? Shark Boy? Nope Shark Boy can't wrestle there either, did you see mask being allowed in the dress code i think not.
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Post by Unknown Thought on Nov 16, 2007 16:31:23 GMT -5
(19) Conduct of Wrestling Contest. a. A wrestling contest shall be determined by: i. One (1) fall; or ii. Two (2) out of three (3) falls. (20) Scoring a Fall. a. A fall is scored by a wrestler when the wrestler’s opponent has both shoulders touching the mat for a count of three (3) seconds. b. The referee shall signal the wrestler scoring a fall by immediately slapping the mat.
So no more submission victories in Georgia? (if approved)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2007 16:34:10 GMT -5
So no Raven, no Shark Boy. Who else?
John Cena (jean shorts! I THINK NOT!) MVP (Get in your trunks boy. Wait, whats that? A gang tattoo! DISQUALIFIED!) Jeff Hardy (I'm sorry, just no, just... just no) All the divas, I don't think sexy attire would fly
And dozens others. In fact the majority of wrestlers. Anyone else feel like they're trapped in a timewarp from the 1950s?
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Post by Leaving after 1,600 on Nov 16, 2007 16:55:16 GMT -5
Atleast Ric Flair Rowdy Piper and Hulk Hogan can still wrestle there, ohhh wait cancel Hogan it doesn't say you can wear knee braces.
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Post by sexualvanilla on Nov 17, 2007 3:27:37 GMT -5
Goodbye Necro Butcher, we hardly knew yee
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Nov 17, 2007 4:07:01 GMT -5
So no Raven, no Shark Boy. Who else? John Cena (jean shorts! I THINK NOT!) MVP (Get in your trunks boy. Wait, whats that? A gang tattoo! DISQUALIFIED!) Jeff Hardy (I'm sorry, just no, just... just no) All the divas, I don't think sexy attire would fly And dozens others. In fact the majority of wrestlers. Anyone else feel like they're trapped in a timewarp from the 1950s? No because 1950's you had the Nazi wrestlers. So that would not fly either
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Post by clifford on Nov 17, 2007 10:18:05 GMT -5
I stopped reading at #15. jesus christ.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Nov 17, 2007 10:34:00 GMT -5
i didn't feel like downloading. But i read all of the post. This whole thing was configured by morons, idiot, buffoons, and nincompoops.
How will this effect Raw when it comes to Atlanta in December?
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