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Post by Red Impact on Feb 27, 2008 12:06:48 GMT -5
Okay, two things: 1. I don't think you know that this interview was done before the Royal Rumble. They were still in negotiations for the Hall of Fame show appearance back then. Hence Cena talking about his own return. 2. LISTEN to the interview. Cena said this: "C'mon man, show up and give the eyebrow, then fly out, for all I care." Does that sound like somebody wants you back on a full time basis? Maybe my head's smurfed up, I dunno, but Cena sounds like he just wants to see Rock once in a while. Ahh, I wasn't. My fault. I still am quite confused, though, given that did a promo for last year's wrestlemania that was pretty much that same thing, the only difference was it being taped, likely largely due to a filming/promoting schedule. My point is that you can't compare a speculative career boom for Cena with Rock's current life in Hollywood. I can agree with that. |
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Post by Bobby Womack on Feb 27, 2008 12:09:20 GMT -5
just as a side note to those downing the rocks acting career, he has a far more successful movie career than at least 97% of the screen actors guild, many of which would kill to have the parts hes played, sure he hasnt had any academy award performances but hes far from slumming it
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 27, 2008 12:30:29 GMT -5
just as a side note to those downing the rocks acting career, he has a far more successful movie career than at least 97% of the screen actors guild, many of which would kill to have the parts hes played, sure he hasnt had any academy award performances but hes far from slumming it Exactly. It's not like he's Eugene Levy and doing mostly Made for TV movies. All of his movies have become box office hits of some kind. Well....except Southland Tales.... |
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Feb 27, 2008 12:35:00 GMT -5
Yeah, Rock owes us! It's not like he busted his body up on a nightly basis for years or anything!
I'm so sick of this 'sellout' argument.
I was sick of it when people talked about moving from ECW to WCW or WWE.
I was sick of it when people talked about moving from TNA to WWE.
And I'm sick of it now.
The Rock didn't 'sell out.' The Rock did was right for him.
How many of you are in terrible, crappy, awful jobs?
You hate your job, right?
If you got an opportunity to do one that pays as well or better, only you'd enjoy yourself more, you wouldn't think 'hey, that's selling out.' You'd take it. And you'd be right to do it.
The Rock didn't want to wrestle any more. So he doesn't. End of.
The Rock doesn't owe us a damn thing, and I'll sooner have Rock distance himself like he has than do an Austin run and come back periodically to give someone that miserably predictable stunner.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Feb 27, 2008 12:44:56 GMT -5
I was sick of it when people talked about moving from TNA to WWE. Why would anyone call someone moving from TNA to WWE a sellout? Just about everyone there was in WWE first. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 27, 2008 12:48:28 GMT -5
I was sick of it when people talked about moving from TNA to WWE. Why would anyone call someone moving from TNA to WWE a sellout? Just about everyone there was in WWE first. The same reason people call non signed artists sell outs after they go to a record company. Because they sold out to 'the man'....or something. |
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Post by dh03grad on Feb 27, 2008 13:22:35 GMT -5
What if John Cena sold over 10 million records and became bigger than 50 Cent. Would he still be doing what hes doing? Please. What if "12 Rounds" becpmes the biggest movie of the decade. Will he still work 250 nights a year for Vince? Would you? You're trying to make comparisons to Rocky's situation and it doesn't work. Dude's a B-Lister. Besides Rundown he hasn't had a truly classic flick and only 3 of the ones he's been in grossed over 80 mil; one of those was a bit part. You are a B lister if your film dont gross 80 million dollars? LOL. I guess the right term would be A-Lister if you are holding Dwayne to that standard. For him to have only done 9 movies and 3 of them being smash successes and only 1 true flop....thats a successful career. No movie star alive has a spotless box office record. Denzel Washington just had a film that more or less flopped. |
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Post by thesunbeast on Feb 27, 2008 14:31:25 GMT -5
I think It's cena hat that gets so many people siding o the Rock with this, because so many other people have said the same thing with loads of agreement. Have we been on two different boards since 06? Whenever something like this is brought up it always seems to be the same 5-6 people saying Rocky sold out and turned his back on the business with about ..... everyone else saying Rock's within his rights and not doing a damn thing wrong. Don't try and pass this off as anti-Cena bias, that clearly isn't the case. I'm not trying to do that, and I'm not talking about just this board in particulkar or even the IWC. As a matter of fact, I'm just saying that the philosophy is one way when we're talking about Rock and Cena, but It's different when other names are mentioned, much different, which makes me inclined to say that It's the people being talked about that makes the difference in an opinion that has exactly the same circumstances. I suppose that Goldberg is perfectly in his rights to do whatever he wants? He'd never get resentment from the fans for hanging it up early? I suppose the Utlimate warrior is perfectly justified for just up and leaving as far as the fans are concerened? Is it the same 5-6 people that share this philosophy, or does the story seem to change depending on who we're talking about? |
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Post by mcmxzyptlk on Feb 27, 2008 15:56:28 GMT -5
You are a B lister if your film dont gross 80 million dollars? LOL. I guess the right term would be A-Lister if you are holding Dwayne to that standard. For him to have only done 9 movies and 3 of them being smash successes and only 1 true flop....thats a successful career. Hell, yeah. I stand by that. Either that, or he starts picking up more cash per flick. A-Listers get at least twice what Rocky's been making on the set, too. Let's see, his biggest hits are Mummy Returns, Scorpion King and Game Plan. Mummy Returns was an awaited sequel to a blockbuster hit. Game Plan and Scorpion King did well, no buts about it. Hats off to the Rock. But he's got more than one flop. All I can think of are Doom and that other one where he carried a 2x4. Denzel? We're not talking about American Gangster, right? That did real good, last I checked. |
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Post by dh03grad on Feb 27, 2008 16:06:54 GMT -5
You are a B lister if your film dont gross 80 million dollars? LOL. I guess the right term would be A-Lister if you are holding Dwayne to that standard. For him to have only done 9 movies and 3 of them being smash successes and only 1 true flop....thats a successful career. Hell, yeah. I stand by that. Either that, or he starts picking up more cash per flick. A-Listers get at least twice what Rocky's been making on the set, too. Let's see, his biggest hits are Mummy Returns, Scorpion King and Game Plan. Mummy Returns was an awaited sequel to a blockbuster hit. Game Plan and Scorpion King did well, no buts about it. Hats off to the Rock. But he's got more than one flop. All I can think of are Doom and that other one where he carried a 2x4. Denzel? We're not talking about American Gangster, right? That did real good, last I checked. Great Debaters |
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Post by normcoleman on Feb 27, 2008 16:33:51 GMT -5
Rock left on top.....would you rather have him stinking it up in the ring well into his 50s
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 27, 2008 16:42:49 GMT -5
www.fanoffmedia.com/audio/CenaonRock.mp3With the MP3 right there, the damn "transcript" leaves off a lot of things making it sound like Cena is punk. That's just like what HBO did to Cena What I feel about Rock, is the same as I feel with Goldberg, Brock, and Warrior. They left and made a lot of money. goldberg is one of the people leading MMA to being more mainstream and I can get behind that. Lesnar just started in MMA and I hope the best for him. Warrior is a crazy crazy man. They can do what they want, they don't owe anybody anything, and Goldberg is one of the nicest people and wrestlers i've met. Seriously goldberg is a really cool dude.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 27, 2008 16:48:37 GMT -5
Cena is only mad that the Rock had success in movies as his movie didn't draw. If the Marine did so well, Cena wouldn't trash it and couldn't do both. The different is that Cena movie roles come from the WWE film. The Rock got his roles from other major film companies and the keep lining up for him. You can't blame The Rock for taking the easier and much more money when you can. As long hollywood keeps throwing money and scripts at him. he's going to take them as would any of you.
Cena isn't right at all. Just because he not wrestling anymore doesn't mean he doesn't love it. he just doing what right to feet his kid. At less the Rock can spend time and play with his kid when the kid is old enough and wants to play catch and stuff.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Feb 27, 2008 16:56:38 GMT -5
Cena is just pissed because he's pretty much been a Rock rip off character for a Looooonnngggg time, and the fans have NEVER completely bought it.
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 27, 2008 17:07:13 GMT -5
^^those 2 didn't listen to the interview and instead responded to the title
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Post by normcoleman on Feb 27, 2008 18:34:03 GMT -5
Maybe Cena is trying to win the net fans?
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Post by RedSmile on Feb 27, 2008 18:38:44 GMT -5
I didn;t read all of this thread. But I hope this is Cena being "heelish" and trying to initiate a Cena/Rock feud in the future.
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Post by John Oates' Moustache on Feb 27, 2008 19:15:50 GMT -5
I think The Rock enjoys being Metrosexual more than wrestling, which isn't the place for a person to not get their teeth kicked in, accidentally or not.
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Post by Joekishi on Feb 27, 2008 19:24:39 GMT -5
wrestling isn't really manly well it is very homoerotic
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Post by vrjustin01 on Feb 27, 2008 23:26:07 GMT -5
Rock can make more money filming one movie than he can working a full-time schedule for WWE. I am pretty certain he gets consistent work as well. There's no reason he needs to wrestle. If he was free and wanted too, I'm sure there will come a time when that happens. Hogan tried to be a full time actor and quit wrestling. But, he couldn't act. And he's stuck with a certain "look". Rock is bankrolling.
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