Cena Pissed Off With The Rock

[dh03grad]

lobo said:

dh03grad said:

A WWE without the Rock is a WWE that plummets in 1999 and gives WCW new life.

Hey, if you think a Mr. Ass super face push would have kept the WWE just as popular without Austin, no problems from me.

[saggyboyflair]

Cena vs. Rock could be a great great fued. I would mark to hell if Rock started to insult Cena and his superman gimmick on the mic. However, the fued would have to have a good 2 or 3 build up IMO. of course im sure rock would be forced to job. NO ONE BEATS CENA clean. At least without interference

[salTy]

dh03grad said:

lobo said:

Hey, if you think a Mr. Ass super face push would have kept the WWE just as popular without Austin, no problems from me.

Without Austin? Or The Rock?

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

saggyboyflair said:

Cena vs. Rock could be a great great fued. I would mark to hell if Rock started to insult Cena and his superman gimmick on the mic. However, the fued would have to have a good 2 or 3 build up IMO. of course im sure rock would be forced to job. NO ONE BEATS CENA clean. At least without interference

Because the man that's done with wrestling should definitely go over and bury the biggest star they have at the moment!

[Red Impact]

pegasuswarrior said:

What's it gotten him? Well, undying respect for one. Something The Rock has none of, as far as this person's concerned.

Because undying respect makes everything better when they wake up every day hurting, spend nearly no time with their families, and die young? And it manifests itself with crowds who eventually yawn during the monthly "special appearance?"

If it takes doing irreparable damage to your body to gain "respect" from some wrestling fans, I say smurf 'em. Why should a guy have to kill himself week in and week out for fans with an entitlement complex? Those fans aren't handing him his paycheck, and they're not making it worthwhile for him to miss their family most of the year, and, odds are, half of them are crapping on whatever they do.

Arbitrary respect of a few faceless fans is hardly equal compensation for a person's family and physical life.

[Robbymac]

I think this is setting up a Cena-Rock dream match at Wrestlemania XXV. I'm calling my shot right now.

[Lt. Palumbo]

danto said:

To add an interesting spin, read this description:

A guy joined WWE and had a fantastic career, won championships, main evented PPVs, and was extremely over with the fans. Even to this day, they still talk about him. Like him or not - he made a huge impression on wrestling. But now he's moved on, wants to try to achieve success in another field. Wreslting was a chapter in his book, and he's moved on to the next one.

How come when this statement is applied to The Rock, people wish him well, but when applied to the Ultimate Warrior, he is seen as a traitor, a scumbag and an ungrateful SOB? I'm no Warrior mark, I just fail to see past the double standards here.

Um,I don't think that statement applies to Warrior, he hasn't moved on, still trashes WWE all the time and is quite crass about it (cripple, queering, etc.).

Furthermore, wasn't Warrior fired because he demanded more money right before a PPV, essentially holding the show for ransom?

Also, I think you'd be hard pushed to find someone who thinks Warrior leaving had a big negative effect on the company. His departure didn't leave a huge hole in the WWF landscape, arguably the Rock did

I think if you'd said Brock Lesnar you might have had a point,people were angry at him for leaving. People tend to dislike Warrior because he comes off as a world class asshole

[EvilMasterBetty, Esq.]

If this is real, Cena on his absolute best cannot hold Rock's jock on his absolute worst. Cena can get pissed all he wants. The fact is the Rock may still love it, but he also loves making 5x what he could in WWE and with 5x less wear and tear on his body. The Rock got out while the getting was good. Look at Austin. He was just as, if not more over, then the Rock, but can barely get a pop now when he comes back.

[dh03grad]

lobo said:

dh03grad said:

Hey, if you think a Mr. Ass super face push would have kept the WWE just as popular without Austin, no problems from me.

Without Austin? Or The Rock?

When Austin went away wth the neck injury, nobody else could have kept the ship running with no drop off.

[kswolf]

hitmandx said:

Exactly. He doesn't owe any of us anything, he's done his time already.

And that article screams FAKE.

FYI, the article is quoting directly from an interview, which is available as a podcast on the site. There's also a picture of Cena with the guys who interviewed him.

The Sun may not be the most reliable source around, but this particular article does seem to be on the up and up.

[Hypnotix]

If there is any shred of truth to that interview, that proves to be a very stupid thing for Cena to say. Look at Hulk Hogan. He retired from the WWF while he was still a popular figure, then went on to pursue an acting career which he was successful at. Then he came back to wrestling with WCW, and revitalized the industry to all-new hights during the mid-late 90's.

Who's to say if we'll ever see the Rock in the ring again, but if he wants to make a career in Hollywood, I'm all for it. I don't blame the Rock one bit for wanting to make more money and keeping his body in better shape by not beating it up night after night. I'm sure if he were to return, he'd get a huge reaction, but I don't fault him for being smart about making money in a less rigorous environment.

[Mecca]

Is Cena jealous that all he has is wrestling while the Rock was talented enough to move onto something better?

[salTy]

dh03grad said:

lobo said:

Without Austin? Or The Rock?

When Austin went away wth the neck injury, nobody else could have kept the ship running with no drop off.

Ok, because you originally said The Rock. If you originally meant Austin then you're right.

[salTy]

The Rock is still very popular with wrestling fans, and would easily get Austin-like responses if he made appearances every so often. If he wanted to he could come back and be as popular as ever.

But he doesn't want to and that's his business. He shouldn't be vilified for going on to other things. But, he will never attain the loyal fanbase he once had in my opinion; not like he once had.

He definitely took the easier and more intelligent route, but I don't necessarily think he abandoned his fans.

[Dr. T is an alien]

One thing that Cena is forgetting is that he has seen personally what old wrestlers go through. Rock gave a lot and got a lot. The WWE and he both were better for their past together. The fact that Rock both got out while he could still be relatively healthy and could make more money than Vince ever paid him was the smartest thing for him. Honestly, if he is successful without the WWE it might actually be a blessing for the WWE. It's not like the man will ever able to shed the rep as a former wrestler, and every time he has success in Hollywood people will erroniously associate that success with the WWE (and WWE films for that matter).

Also, it he had not made that move I would not have seen The Rundown, which was a fun little movie.

[dh03grad]

lobo said:

dh03grad said:

When Austin went away wth the neck injury, nobody else could have kept the ship running with no drop off.

Ok, because you originally said The Rock. If you originally meant Austin then you're right.

WWE did just fine without Austin from fall 1999-fall 2000 so that couldnt possibly been it. Nice try.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

kswolf said:

hitmandx said:

Exactly. He doesn't owe any of us anything, he's done his time already.

And that article screams FAKE.

FYI, the article is quoting directly from an interview, which is available as a podcast on the site. There's also a picture of Cena with the guys who interviewed him.

The Sun may not be the most reliable source around, but this particular article does seem to be on the up and up.

Which is why I think it's a work. The WWE and Cena have already done it, pretty damn recently with Cena's injury. And now for this interview to come out, with Cena being the one to say it, and with The Rock returning, makes me think it's a work.

This is Cena, the guy in the WWE that they can count on to not make an ass out of himself in public, and the biggest star (wrestling and movie wise) they have. Don't count out the possibliity that this is all some work by the E, Cena and The Rock, to give us a Cena vs Rock match.

[Lt. Palumbo]

So Rock doesn't mention WWE in his interviews, so what? Does George Clooney mention ER when he's being interviewed about his latest movie? Do people chastise him for not showing loyalty to the show?

[samachine]

mecca said:

Is Cena jealous that all he has is wrestling while the Rock was talented enough to move onto something better?

..Because Cena hasn't stated multiple times wrestling is what he wants to do since childhood..

[mrmulluk]

The more Rock mentions wrestling after he leaves, the more typecast he becomes. If he seriously wants to get into acting in a big way he can't afford to only land roles as the wrestler, because most wrestler-centric movies munch camel.

Also, furthermore, Nathan Jones eh, sell out. I didn't once hear him mention the Undertaker during Warrior King.